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Theres going to be a solid concentration of light-blue glass skyscrapers in downtown houston by the time all these projects are done. I hope architects aren't overdoing this design.

While I get your point.. Note this is a conceptual rendering and the final design is up to the chosen hotel.

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If I were a betting man, I would put my money on this being an Omni.  Most other convention hotels and mid level hotels are already in the area or have a proprety downtown except the Omni who only has 2 other properties in Houston (galleria area and energy corridor).  Also from what I remember they were in the running for the second convention center hotel but were not selected so there was interest in downtown Houston.

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I'm so glad to see the hotel kick-started.  I was worried that if it were put off then it would never get done.  Downtown still needs more hotel spaces, and this is a perfect location.  The proximity of the assorted civic booster organizations in the office section makes sense too, since presumably they host a number of out-of-town visitors.  The only other thing this building needs is a major restaurant on the ground floor!

Dang we still need more!? Lol

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If I were a betting man, I would put my money on this being an Omni. Most other convention hotels and mid level hotels are already in the area or have a proprety downtown except the Omni who only has 2 other properties in Houston (galleria area and energy corridor). Also from what I remember they were in the running for the second convention center hotel but were not selected so there was interest in downtown Houston.

While that makes perfect sense.. How many 4* hotels do we need around the convention center? There are already 2 1,000 room 4* hotels.. That's why I figured this might be a 5*. The Four Seasons is the closest 5* hotel to the CC. But maybe they will try to keep it more affordable and go with a 3 star or something?

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A hotel needs to achieve its rating based on quality/services/performance.  They simply do not "build" a hotel - and say "this is 5-Star."  Kind of like a restaurant earning its ratings based on the quality of the foods and service.  This is my assumption.

 

I'd assume this hotel would tend to end up being a "typical" upper-middle scale hotel.  Doubtful its a luxury hotel or even more doubtful it being a 5-star hotel.  I would also assume *most* convention goers would rather simply have a nice hotel - to an ultra luxury 5-star hotel (and its prices).

 

Also, I'm under the impression this is almost a "stock" image of what they assume the hotel will look like?  Is that not right?  I don't think that's the final design, that would be dependant upon the hotel that elects to occupy this space and their requirements.  Perhaps I'm wrong on all accounts.

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A hotel needs to achieve its rating based on quality/services/performance. They simply do not "build" a hotel - and say "this is 5-Star." Kind of like a restaurant earning its ratings based on the quality of the foods and service. This is my assumption.

I'd assume this hotel would tend to end up being a "typical" upper-middle scale hotel. Doubtful its a luxury hotel or even more doubtful it being a 5-star hotel. I would also assume *most* convention goers would rather simply have a nice hotel - to an ultra luxury 5-star hotel (and its prices).

Also, I'm under the impression this is almost a "stock" image of what they assume the hotel will look like? Is that not right? I don't think that's the final design, that would be dependant upon the hotel that elects to occupy this space and their requirements. Perhaps I'm wrong on all accounts.

The article pointed out that the rendering was conceptual. Whatever brand chooses this location will have their own design.

I don't see the Ritz/Mandarin/whatever popping up here.

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The article pointed out that the rendering was conceptual. Whatever brand chooses this location will have their own design.

I don't see the Ritz/Mandarin/whatever popping up here.

I think that this is Correct. In my opinion, This will likely be a "business class" hotel if the primary market is conventions.

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Is it just. Me or have they waited too long on this project to have it ready by the Super Bowl? They need to select a company, ratify a design and build into a market with labor shortages. They have a little over two years (needs to be open in Fall or 2016 IMO if it will be ready for the Super Bowl).

My guess is that this one won't be ready in time.......

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There are now barriers around the entire property where the parking garage and office/hotel will go in. Same barriers you would see at 609 Main, for example. The only side that doesn't have barriers is along the light rail line to the north.

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There are now barriers around the entire property where the parking garage and office/hotel will go in. Same barriers you would see at 609 Main, for example. The only side that doesn't have barriers is along the light rail line to the north.

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2014-08-23 17.14.10 by marclongoria, on Flickr

 

Digging up the lot for the parking garage:

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Entire area fenced off on both sides:

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2014-08-23 17.15.30 by marclongoria, on Flickr

 

Sidewalk is now covered for parking garage construction:

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2014-08-23 17.16.30 by marclongoria, on Flickr

 

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2014-08-23 17.18.41 by marclongoria, on Flickr

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From GRB facebook page

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Workers are scraping the ground at the north end of the GRB in preparation for construction of the new office tower/hotel/parking garage complex that is in the works. Here is a project rendering and a photo of site prep work now under way.

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From the development map, it looks like they will build on both sides of the rail line and the train will pass through the parking garage through a tunnel. Has anyone released blueprints or a sketch on how the rail will interact with the building?

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The more I think about it, the more I realize that the idea of a Top Golf on the roof of the george r brown would be PHENOMENAL. .

I've been saying this for a year.. (Maybe that's what you were referring to?)

Give something for the new residents of downtown to do. It would also provide entertainment/meeting places to talk business over in a casual environment for the employees of downtown, or take extended breaks/lunches at during the weekday (for the more privledged employees). Also I think it would be a hit for all the conventioneers staying nearby, and anyone who lived IN the city, (or on the south and east sides, as it would be much closer than the other 2) as all the existing topgolfs are in a suburban setting.

As for the rest of the rooftop (TopGolf would easily fit on just part of the roof), put a public sports complex or something for the kids (and adults) of the inner city to have even more entertainment options, while promoting a healthier lifestyle (active). It would also make downtown more family friendly.

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I've been saying this for a year.. (Maybe that's what you were referring to?)

Give something for the new residents of downtown to do. It would also provide entertainment/meeting places to talk business over in a casual environment for the employees of downtown, or take extended breaks/lunches at during the weekday (for the more privledged employees). Also I think it would be a hit for all the conventioneers staying nearby, and anyone who lived IN the city, (or on the south and east sides, as it would be much closer than the other 2) as all the existing topgolfs are in a suburban setting.

As for the rest of the rooftop (TopGolf would easily fit on just part of the roof), put a public sports complex or something for the kids (and adults) of the inner city to have even more entertainment options, while promoting a healthier lifestyle (active). It would also make downtown more family friendly.

Yes, I was referring to your idea, Cloud.

How bout some batting cages and a soccer pitch too?

It would be our version of Manhattans Chelsea Piers...

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...with a killer view of the park and the skyline...

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It would add something to the horrible view that drivers on 59 have of the endless wall of GRB that blocks out the sky. It would give the city a "pulse" from that view, something akin to driving down the westside highway.

I am going to contact Top Golf about this idea, and then ill wrangle up a few goons and kidnap Ric Campo to seal the deal. :)

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The more I think about it, the more I realize that the idea of a Top Golf on the roof of the george r brown would be PHENOMENAL.

But sadly, as Houston fights everything that makes a city "cool", it is probably jist another pipe dream of mine, like jumbotrons at greenstreet.

That's a phenomenal idea Howard, way too go.

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While those are cool ideas and all, lets be aware that just to achieve something like that would mean a complete revamp of the building structurally. That roof is only able to take the loads of the roof and maintenance crews that maybe go up there a couple days out of the month. I'm not even a structural engineer and I know this. You are adding, not only new loads from all the faculties needed to make such a venture successful, but people loads as well. Not to mention I don't think a bunch of nets on the roof would be very appealing imo. Just to make a roof "green" is alone is an enormous challenge much less through an entire golf facility.

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While those are cool ideas and all, lets be aware that just to achieve something like that would mean a complete revamp of the building structurally. That roof is only able to take the loads of the roof and maintenance crews that maybe go up there a couple days out of the month. I'm not even a structural engineer and I know this. You are adding, not only new loads from all the faculties needed to make such a venture successful, but people loads as well. Not to mention I don't think a bunch of nets on the roof would be very appealing imo. Just to make a roof "green" is alone is an enormous challenge much less through an entire golf facility.

You do realize they considered adding 1,600 parking spaces on the roof, right? That would be like 7 million pounds.

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You do realize they considered adding 1,600 parking spaces on the roof, right? That would be liwke 7 million pounds.

No. They are not. They considered the idea and quickly dropped it. . . One surmises they dropped it because it was utterly infeasible. You know, 7 million pounds on top of a structure not designed for it and all...

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No. They are not. They considered the idea and quickly dropped it. . . One surmises they dropped it because it was utterly infeasible. You know, 7 million pounds on top of a structure not designed for it and all...

Or they dropped it because it's a pain in the ass to get cars that high up. Probably both though. Point being, it's more than possible.

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Or they dropped it because it's a pain in the ass to get cars that high up. Probably both though. Point being, it's more than possible.

Point being, you have absolutely no idea if it is possible and we have very strong indication that it is completely infeasible.

And the other point being... your claim that they are considering putting parking on the roof of the GRB was false.

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And I have absolutely no connection with TopGolf or any high up officials to get something like this done. Point being? I dreamed up the idea. Sue me.

I think it would be an idiotic idea.

The glare from the lights would be a driving hazard for those on the freeway, and an annoyance to those living nearby.

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Point being, you have absolutely no idea if it is possible and we have very strong indication that it is completely infeasible.

And the other point being... your claim that they are considering putting parking on the roof of the GRB was false.

First off, spike your tone down a little, no need to get all hostile towards cloud over nothing.

Second, this is just a couple of posters on HAIF tossing ideas around, no one claimed this was a done deal and happening tomorrow.

Third, you're insulting our intelligence, you're telling a poster on an architecture board that "they would have to alter the structure to build on the roof" Well no s##t, Sherlock.

And claiming that building something like this would be virtually impossible is an overstatement. It isnt even remotely impossible. Would it require some engineering and structural additions? Sure. Impossible? Hardly.

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I think it would be an idiotic idea.

The glare from the lights would be a driving hazard for those on the freeway

You mean like the Top Golf right next to the freeway on I-10 west?

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Yea, how could anyone manage to drive next to such insanely brilliant, annoying, distracting lights like they do on the Katy freeway?

I dont see how driving next to all those lights is possible... :rolleyes:

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IF YOU CANT DRIVE BY A TOP GOLF WITHOUT "GETTING DISTRACTED" AND CAUSING ACCIDENTS, YOU DONT NEED TO BE DRIVING.

Besides, all the drivers would be too busy looking at their phones to get distracted anyway.....

Anyhow, this thread has strayed off topic, lets talk about the Convention Center office building/hotel.

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