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2 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said:

Hmmmmmm so Bud's Barbecue and Kulture aren't open?  Someone all but called me a liar when I said they weren't opening with the others but opening months later than what sites like Chronicle, HBJ and CultureMap were reporting.

 

What you said (and what someone called you out on) was that "most of the Avenida restaurants would not open until February or March".  That was inaccurate (as someone told you at the time).

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21 hours ago, pablog said:

Does anyone know what happened to the building that was going to go next to the GRB?

The Rustic? So one mentioned in another thread that it was still on and would start in the coming months if I'm not mistaken. 

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3 hours ago, nate4l1f3 said:

The Rustic? So one mentioned in another thread that it was still on and would start in the coming months if I'm not mistaken. 

Im talking about the one on top of the Houston First building. 

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Your talking about the proposed hotel that was to be built on top of the Houston First garage and building.

I don't think they ever made a deal with an operator to build the hotel.

It was a speculative venture with the hopes of luring someone to come in and build and operate.

I don't think they ever closed a deal and then we hd the downturn and things sort of went cold. I'm sure they're still hoping to make a deal.

It will happen eventually.

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The Vaughn Construction engineer I talked to during the build said the current building was designed to hold a building/hotel atop it, if and when someone decided to build it.

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6 minutes ago, CrockpotandGravel said:


First, Pappadeaux's wasn't sure on their timeline and said many times when I stopped by that it wouldn't be. So I didn't make anything up. But obviously they were ready ahead of their scheduled timeline. And second off, you said that all of those places were opening in February and I said they weren't with Bud's and Kulture opening months later. Here we are months after February and both aren't open as I said before. But I'm making things up.Okay........... :rolleyes:

 

I never said you were making things up.  Just that what you told us was not accurate.  

 

Now, however, you have started making things up.  I never said all of those places were going to be open in February.  I never thought that, so certainly never would have said it.  All I said was that you were wrong when you said that most of them would not open until Feb or March.  Here we are months later and you are still not able to admit you were wrong.  Get over yourself already.

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18 hours ago, mattyt36 said:

Did they ever even issue an RFP? I'm not sure you can call it a failure if they didn't.

 

The did and made an award. It is a quazi ground lease deal with HOT Taxes and block availability - very complicated deal. Will it ever happen - I would say Yes, when is the answer. I can tell you that Marriott getting lured to build what they did by Houston First - then subsequently Houston First wanting to put another hotel together probably didn't go over so well. 

 

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7 hours ago, BigBlueContractor said:

 

The did and made an award. It is a quazi ground lease deal with HOT Taxes and block availability - very complicated deal. Will it ever happen - I would say Yes, when is the answer. I can tell you that Marriott getting lured to build what they did by Houston First - then subsequently Houston First wanting to put another hotel together probably didn't go over so well. 

 

 

When was the award made and to whom? I can't find anything on HFC's website.

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21 hours ago, Houston19514 said:

 

I never said you were making things up.  Just that what you told us was not accurate.  

 

Now, however, you have started making things up.  I never said all of those places were going to be open in February.  I never thought that, so certainly never would have said it.  All I said was that you were wrong when you said that most of them would not open until Feb or March.  Here we are months later and you are still not able to admit you were wrong.  Get over yourself already.

 

Dude, Crockpotandgravel is one of the better contributors on this forum. What you're doing right now, "yeah, remember that thing from 4 months ago? You were wrong!"

 

just drop it, it's petty elementary school BS.

 

Can we chalk it up to misunderstanding and move on?

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2 hours ago, samagon said:

 

Dude, Crockpotandgravel is one of the better contributors on this forum. What you're doing right now, "yeah, remember that thing from 4 months ago? You were wrong!"

 

just drop it, it's petty elementary school BS.

 

Can we chalk it up to misunderstanding and move on?

 

FWIW, I agree he is a great contributor to the forum.  That does not put him above being corrected when he (very rarely) makes an inaccurate post.

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^^^ mayor turner spearheaded a social gathering at the new and yet to be officially opened BUD'S PITMASTER BBQ at AVENIDA HOUSTON.

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19 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said:

You mean Mayor Turner right? Lee Brown was a wee bit taller and mustachioed.

^^^ @Twinsanity02 props my pal.  this is what i get for rushing the cut and paste process.....

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On 5/3/2017 at 9:29 PM, mattyt36 said:

 

When was the award made and to whom? I can't find anything on HFC's website.

 

Over two years ago. Very Odd deal. The developers needed changes to the structure for different support for what they wanted to do. The "quazi PM firm" that was managing the job the office building/garage project that was going on at the time (who was a developer that lost the hotel project) rushed the contractor to make it impossible (or very costly) to make any changes to the structure. I just can't see one more hotel going over there right now or in two years. 

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I was out there last night. There was also a live band and huge private party on the pool deck of the Marriott Marquis that me and my friends managed to sneak / talk our way into lol

 

This part of downtown is so active and lively now.

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I went to the ball game yesterday, after that we went to Biggios. We went up to the pool deck to see the whole thing and saw there was a private event that evening. Since we were all still kind of business casual and I had been to plenty of our own business conferences, I tried to convince my co-workers to stay up there and be a part of the party, but they chickened out.

 

Party on the plaza seems to be a good fit for this area.

 

I'll definitely be joining the party on the plaza in the future.

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^^^ there is nothing better to me at this time during downtown houston's convention district revitalization, than the PARTY ON THE PLAZA.  i find it simply brilliant!  just take a good look at the people and the outright casual fun that they are exhibiting.  it just does not get any better than this.  well done avenida houston.....

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he was there last saturday night as part of Comicpalooza...in fact i was right in front of him on my bike and took a video of him doing the dab! haha :lol:

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^^^ i will finally get to try me some BUD'S PITMASTER BBQ at AVENIDA HOUSTON!

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On 5/22/2017 at 9:02 PM, monarch said:

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^^^ well done GONZO247!  what a wonderful artist/asset to our great city....

 

He has a mural inside the convention center lobby, as part of their public art collection.

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4 hours ago, cloud713 said:

 

He has a mural inside the convention center lobby, as part of their public art collection.

^^^ @cloud713 yes, i know.  i submitted an illustration of it much earlier.....

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On 5/25/2017 at 0:22 AM, monarch said:

^^^ @cloud713 yes, i know.  i submitted an illustration of it much earlier.....

 

Ah, I missed that.. was just trying to tie your post into this topic since the image of the mural you linked seemed off topic/is on the Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites building.

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4 hours ago, cloud713 said:

 

Ah, I missed that.. was just trying to tie your post into this topic since the image of the mural you linked seemed off topic/is on the Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites building.

^^^ AVENIDA HOUSTON along with it's many areas of art, is considered a very integral part of the DOWNTOWN CONVENTION DISTRICT.  HAMPTON INN/HOMEWOOD SUITES resides within the DOWNTOWN CONVENTION DISTRICT.  many of GONZO'S exemplary art exhibits often reside within the AVENIDA HOUSTON/DOWNTOWN CONVENTION DISTRICT.  therefore, not "off-topic" and very easily comprehensible as per our many HAIF patrons.....   

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20 minutes ago, monarch said:

^^^ AVENIDA HOUSTON along with it's many areas of art, is considered a very integral part of the DOWNTOWN CONVENTION DISTRICT.  HAMPTON INN/HOMEWOOD SUITES resides within the DOWNTOWN CONVENTION DISTRICT.  many of GONZO'S exemplary art exhibits often reside within the AVENIDA HOUSTON/DOWNTOWN CONVENTION DISTRICT.  therefore, not "off-topic" and very easily comprehensible as per our many HAIF patrons.....   


Well, technically this thread is only for the Avenida Houston promenade, the convention center itself, and the GHP Building next door. Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites has its own thread on this forum, hence why it would be considered "off topic".. but im not trying to nit pick, was just trying to help you out. The discussion does often get side tracked into the other developments in the area though, since as you say, they are part of the overall Convention District.

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On 5/27/2017 at 0:32 PM, cloud713 said:


Well, technically this thread is only for the Avenida Houston promenade, the convention center itself, and the GHP Building next door. Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites has its own thread on this forum, hence why it would be considered "off topic".. but im not trying to nit pick, was just trying to help you out. The discussion does often get side tracked into the other developments in the area though, since as you say, they are part of the overall Convention District.

 

This is the 'going up' section, I think, outside of one restaurant in the office building, all the construction is done and there's nothing else going up, if you want to get real nit picky, the argument could be made that everything posted in here from the superbowl onward should be moved to a thread in the downtown sub-forum.

 

It's an online message board though, not a dictatorship, so maybe it's okay :D

 

In other news, outside of the first few weeks, has anyone seen the fountain actually moving? I've only ever seen it lit and fountaining, but not moving. Is it broken already, or do they just not have it on except for special occasions?

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I think they shut it down if there's wind or rain or something - I've seen it on as much as I've seen it off.  There is an emergency stop button, and I suspect that it might be pressed a lot more than just for emergencies

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There's a lot of interesting comments and great pictures on this thread, but every time I see someone remark on this my first thought is "is the glass box getting taller!" 

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I have pics from Buds but am having problems uploading them. It tells me I've used the maximum amount of space. Can someone help?

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you have to post them to flikr or imgur or some site like that, then post the link to the picture here.

 

this website gives limited picture upload space to members

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Talked with the main contractor today of the Kulture restaurant, he said their part will be done in a couple weeks then the kitchen crew and the new employees will take over with an expected opening in late August or early September opening. 

 

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On Houston First Corporation's July 20 Board of Directors agenda:

 

Consideration and possible approval of a lease for KHOU Downtown Avenida Digital Studio located at the George R. Brown Convention Center.

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I'm excited about all the transformations that's happening around downtown, with The Rustic breaking ground in a few wks, it's really going to livin up that part near the Convention Center.

 

http://m.chron.com/neighborhood/bellaire/business/article/Avenida-Houston-to-add-new-restaurant-art-11297609.php

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oops posted it on another thread and then i saw that you posted it here... but yeah this is going to be a great addition to downtown!!! cant wait!

 

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19 hours ago, JoninATX said:

I'm excited about all the transformations that's happening around downtown, with The Rustic breaking ground in a few wks, it's really going to livin up that part near the Convention Center.

 

http://m.chron.com/neighborhood/bellaire/business/article/Avenida-Houston-to-add-new-restaurant-art-11297609.php

Color me a bit cynical about this project being successful in Houston. I love all of Texas' cities, but each is so unique...like very different members of the same family...fwiw my daughter just landed her first job in Dallas and lives in Uptown, and the vibe couldn't be more "opposite" Houston. While The Rustic has done well in Uptown Dallas, I'm not so sure it's larger than life, everything's bigger in Texas, honkey tonk vibe will do well in Houston's more laid back, cosmopolitan atmosphere. Not wanting it to fail by any means, but just not sure.

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On 7/28/2017 at 5:35 PM, quietstorm said:

Color me a bit cynical about this project being successful in Houston. I love all of Texas' cities, but each is so unique...like very different members of the same family...fwiw my daughter just landed her first job in Dallas and lives in Uptown, and the vibe couldn't be more "opposite" Houston. While The Rustic has done well in Uptown Dallas, I'm not so sure it's larger than life, everything's bigger in Texas, honkey tonk vibe will do well in Houston's more laid back, cosmopolitan atmosphere. Not wanting it to fail by any means, but just not sure.

 

I agree with this to the point that there currently isn't a centrally located venue with a honky tonk vibe that routinely has Texas Country artists.  I'm sure this place will do just fine.

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On 7/28/2017 at 5:35 PM, quietstorm said:

Color me a bit cynical about this project being successful in Houston. I love all of Texas' cities, but each is so unique...like very different members of the same family...fwiw my daughter just landed her first job in Dallas and lives in Uptown, and the vibe couldn't be more "opposite" Houston. While The Rustic has done well in Uptown Dallas, I'm not so sure it's larger than life, everything's bigger in Texas, honkey tonk vibe will do well in Houston's more laid back, cosmopolitan atmosphere. Not wanting it to fail by any means, but just not sure.

I'm sure it will survive. This will give tourist who's visiting Houston a true taste of Texas. 

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