cspwal Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I think bike lanes across 59 on Leeland would really open up that part of east downtown - right now it just feels far away from the heart of "eado" because the train and bike lane are all north of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Chain link has been up around the site for a week or two and now the green fence "liner" is up as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adr Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 RFP for the onsite restaurant: http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Southern-Downtown-Park-Cafe-Operator-RFP.pdf Highlights: Cafe set to open March 2021. Indoor seating for 56; patio seating for 40. Exhibits for RFP: http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Southern-Downtown-Park-Cafe-Operator-RFP-Exhibits.pdf 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 5/8/2019 at 10:38 AM, adr said: RFP for the onsite restaurant: http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Southern-Downtown-Park-Cafe-Operator-RFP.pdf Highlights: Cafe set to open March 2021. Indoor seating for 56; patio seating for 40. Exhibits for RFP: http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Southern-Downtown-Park-Cafe-Operator-RFP-Exhibits.pdf Does the area really need another restaurant? The Downtown District should focus efforts on getting convenience stores like a 7-11 downtown . . . that is an absolutely glaring gap. But Houston is not a convenience store city . . . we seem to be all about CVS and Walgreen's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, mattyt36 said: The Downtown District should focus efforts on getting convenience stores like a 7-11 downtown . . . that is an absolutely glaring gap. Something like this? Edited May 10, 2019 by dbigtex56 added photo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, dbigtex56 said: Something like this? Um . . . yeah. Let's open another branch of that (in)famous store. Are you saying implying this is enough? Edited May 10, 2019 by mattyt36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dbigtex56 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 11:57 AM, mattyt36 said: Are you saying implying this is enough? Not really. I understand that convenience is the operative word in "convenience store", and that close proximity and extended hours are their selling points. I'm not an expert by any means, but the impression I have is that the Holy Trinity (beer, cigarettes, lottery tickets) make up a substantial portion of their profits, and that the hoi polloi often indulge in these items. These stores seem to attract a grittier crowd than the national branded stores but heck, isn't a bit of gritty to be expected in a downtown urban setting? Replacing them with shinier versions with stricter standards won't have much effect on the street denizens other than an increase in nicotine fits and the DTs. But yes, I agree - it would be nice if there were more clean, well-stocked, non-scary convenience stores downtown. In the meantime, these places are better than nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Additional “convenience stores” selling beer, wine, cigs, and junk food are not needed IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said: Additional “convenience stores” selling beer, wine, cigs, and junk food are not needed IMO. Well given the prevalence of such stores in the downtown areas of major cities around the world, I’d say you’re in the minority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Houston19514 Posted May 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2019 A nice description/review of the conceptual plans for the southern downtown park from OffCite: http://offcite.org/southern-downtown-park-plan-unveiled-a-response-by-ernesto-alfaro/ 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alec Posted June 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2019 The Goodyear building is no more. 16 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wilcal Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Update from the Downtown District's Sept board meeting: Not much new. Opening date still the same. Quote This capital project has been in design since November 2018. A 30% Construction Document milestone package was submitted by the consultant on August 30, 2019 with staff review currently in progress. During May-June, construction staff managed the demolition process to remove the Goodyear building and site paving. During June-July, marketing staff managed the café operator procurement process with an announcement of that operator pending Authority approvals in September. The design process is slated to run through November 2019 followed by contractor procurement through February 2020, and an estimated construction start in March 2020. The park’s opening is slated for March 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 The planners of the park tried that, no go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said: There's a LLC for Tout Suite SODO registered earlier this month. SODO, I assume, stands for South Downtown. It has begun... Downtown just too big for one name now... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, cspwal said: The planners of the park tried that, no go As someone who is in the industry and is privy to a small project in our commercial department discussing parking issues, the politics of parking and positioning of parking is very real, and a tad ridiculous. I'm glad we are finally lifting the mins in some areas because parking in this town literally can make or break a development/project. Edited October 1, 2019 by Luminare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said: A LLC I found gives some credence to the rumor of the cafe or restaurant operator for the new south downtown park in downtown Houston. There's a LLC for Tout Suite SODO registered earlier this month. SODO, I assume, stands for South Downtown. It's not hard evidence Tout Suite is the cafe operator for the new unnamed park ( going by the name South Downtown Park for now). This makes a tremendous amount of sense since the owners have been talking about relocating since their current location will be torn down for the I-45/69 expansion in the next couple of years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 23 hours ago, Toopicky said: LOL ..... well, I am pretty sure that South Texas College of Law would be more than happy to swap it out with a closer lot to their building .... I don't see that happening When I went to South Texas we had to fend for ourselves with parking, most of the classes were in the evening, and anything east of Caroline was more than a bit gritty (as in someone would get mugged every month or so). Dang soft kids these days... they also need to get off of my lawn. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanize713 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 hours ago, BeerNut said: It has begun... Downtown just too big for one name now... Noooooo...I was in Denver recently and this renaming of areas has run amok there. In my opinion, we should avoid it anywhere we can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, urbanize713 said: Noooooo...I was in Denver recently and this renaming of areas has run amok there. In my opinion, we should avoid it anywhere we can. Once you get professional marketing folks involved it's all downhill (DoHi). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Highrise Tower Posted October 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2019 Cafe announced for future park in downtown Houston https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2019/10/09/cafe-announced-for-future-park-in-downtown-houston.html Quote When a new downtown park opens, it will have a café from by a familiar company. La Vie de St Concepts, the owner of Tout Suite in East Downtown and Sweet in CityCentre, will operate a café tentatively called Tout Suite SoDo — SoDo being short for Southern Downtown. The café, along with the rest of the park, will break ground March 2020 and will open March 2021. The park park will occupy three-fourths of a block bounded by Bell, San Jacinto, Leeland and Fannin streets in the southern portion of downtown Houston. The property currently is about three blocks northwest of the Toyota Center and two blocks southwest of the mixed-used development GreenStreet. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specwriter Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 On 2019-10-01 at 5:15 PM, august948 said: Once you get professional marketing folks involved it's all downhill (DoHi). Hopefully, if something is too artificial it will meet a justified demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 38 minutes ago, Specwriter said: Hopefully, if something is too artificial it will meet a justified demise. SoDo isn't any more artificial than EaDo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 At least EaDo is an easy to define area - downtown east of 59, mainly centered on St Emanuel street Where is Sodo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 43 minutes ago, cspwal said: At least EaDo is an easy to define area - downtown east of 59, mainly centered on St Emanuel street Where is Sodo? Sounds like it is the area north of the junction of 45 and 59. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specwriter Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) "SoDo isn't any more artificial than EaDo." I agree, august948. SoDo is neither more or less so than Eado. 😊 Edited October 11, 2019 by Specwriter removed extra word 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 So are we going to call the area around the historic district NoDoz? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 If South Park can have SoDoSoPa, then we truly deserve SoDoHo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Now that we are naming areas of downtown proper, we'll also need to rebrand EaDo to the more geographically accurate SoEaDo so we can free up the EaDo moniker for area around Discovery Green and Minute Maid. I'll propose DoDo (Downtown Downtown) for the very center. 4 hours ago, bobruss said: So are we going to call the area around the historic district NoDoz? Given the number of homeless in that area, shouldn't we call it NoDough? Edited October 11, 2019 by august948 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 We can call the areas with high concentrations of homeless NoDough as august 948 suggests and the areas with the big banks MoDo, and areas that flood as LoDo. I especially like the suggestion of DoDo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 NoDoz - the neighborhood that never sleeps. Catchy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 We have GRASS! 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 It's too bad the park didn't take up the entire block. It's such a Houston thing for a tiny park in Downtown have a big parking lot attached to it. I wonder if the DRA tried to acquire that parcel but couldn't, or if they intentionally left it there because of Houston's ridiculous minimum parking requirements. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 7/29/2018 at 12:09 AM, cspwal said: So they had the planning meetings this Thursday and Saturday, and I went to both. It is very much still in the planning stages; the Saturday session was a full on brainstorming session with the 21 people who showed up. A few details that I learned: They were only able to acquire a 30 year lease on the good year property and the parking lot at the corner of Leeland and San Jacinto. The land is owned by a trust that won't let them sell it but they can do a lease. The Southern Texas College of Law didn't want to give up their parking lot to let this be a full block park - the current plan is a fence between it and the park. The project is already fully funded by the Downtown Redevelopment Authority Goodyear's lease is up in March, and they expect construction on the park to start in April. They're targeting a Summer 2020 opening date. Here are the boards from the happy hour with the categories they're looking at. I couldn't figure out how this broken forum software could let me embed the photos. https://farm1.staticflickr.com/928/29833049758_609bf90afd_k.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/934/29833051638_dd53b58186_k.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/857/43656374522_78fddc6f41_k.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/859/29833051348_756790e647_k.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/862/43656371632_d549f53e73_k.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/860/29833050268_82c6d5236d_k.jpg 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, Howard Huge said: It's too bad the park didn't take up the entire block. It's such a Houston thing for a tiny park in Downtown have a big parking lot attached to it. I wonder if the DRA tried to acquire that parcel but couldn't, or if they intentionally left it there because of Houston's ridiculous minimum parking requirements. One thing we know with absolute certainty: It had/has nothing to do with any minimum parking requirements. (There are no minimum parking requirements in downtown Houston.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjorade Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Howard Huge said: It's too bad the park didn't take up the entire block. It's such a Houston thing for a tiny park in Downtown have a big parking lot attached to it. I wonder if the DRA tried to acquire that parcel but couldn't, or if they intentionally left it there because of Houston's ridiculous minimum parking requirements. I believe the lot is owned by South Texas law school. Apparently they didn't want to sell. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 53 minutes ago, Sanjorade said: I believe the lot is owned by South Texas law school. Apparently they didn't want to sell. Hate that they don't want to contribute to the revitalization of down 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Houston19514 said: One thing we know with absolute certainty: It had/has nothing to do with any minimum parking requirements. (There are no minimum parking requirements in downtown Houston.) Well that's good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Supposed to start in September. Scope of work: https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/Project/TABS2020020931 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Park as of August 22, 2020 - all traces of Goodyear are gone 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 On 8/18/2020 at 10:02 AM, Houston19514 said: Lots of Interesting stuff regarding plans for Segment 3. Scroll to page 29 Trebley Parc (or Park) as the suggested name of this park. See Page 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 What is Trebley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Apparently bids came in above budget. Looks like the ground breaking will be delayed: http://www.downtowndistrict.org/static/media/uploads/Board Books/201008_hdmd_board_materials.pdf Southern Downtown Park: Following public advertisement (July 16-30, 2020) for contractor procurement, two valid proposals were submitted on August 20, 2020 per the competitive sealed proposal method. A 5-member evaluation panel reviewed both proposals. Based on the evaluation process, staff presented its recommendation for the preferred general contractor to the Authority’s Capital Projects Committee (CPC) on September 3, 2020, which subsequently directed staff and consultants to initiate a value engineering process with the contractor, as both proposals received exceed the project’s budget. Staff and the preferred contractor were not able to achieve sufficient savings during the VE process. Upon advisement from the CPC, the Authority intends to re-bid the project later in 2020 which results in the project construction and final delivery being postponed, likely during 1Q 2021 but the specific project timeline has not been finalized as of this memo. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staresatmaps Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Today 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Avossos Posted December 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, staresatmaps said: Today that parking lot is extremely annoying 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staresatmaps Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Nothing new 7 Jan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Here is some info from the TIRZ regarding this project: The Southern Downtown Park is a 2021 capital improvement project of the Downtown Redevelopment Authority. Bidding documents are currently out to contractors, with bids due January 25th. If all goes well, we will seek board approval on February 9th to enter agreement with contractor who provides the best proposal, with an estimated one-year construction schedule to commence in early March / final completion in early April 2022 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post staresatmaps Posted March 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2021 Groundbreaking for "Trebly Park" because it is on block 333 and has 3 corners due to the terrible parking lot. Estimated completion of March 2022. Will include Tout Suite cafe. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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