sdotwill84 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 So we'll have a parking lot for a year?Thats what I was thinking. Why start demo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Thats what I was thinking.Why start demo?My guess???So that they can "start" the project and thereby lock in the incentive. Since the project has "started" and the incentive has been approved (at least for the original proposal), this may ensure that they are able to lock in their credits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Thats what I was thinking.Why start demo?Taxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 My guess???So that they can "start" the project and thereby lock in the incentive. Since the project has "started" and the incentive has been approved (at least for the original proposal), this may ensure that they are able to lock in their credits. That's an interesting point. I haven't looking at the downtown housing incentive program in detail, but I wonder if they are paid after the project is completed or at the end of the fiscal year in which the project begins (which would inject additional capital). It definitely seems as though they would lock in the credits even if the program were to be terminated after a short time due to a large number of builders participating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) That's an interesting point. I haven't looking at the downtown housing incentive program in detail, but I wonder if they are paid after the project is completed or at the end of the fiscal year in which the project begins (which would inject additional capital). It definitely seems as though they would lock in the credits even if the program were to be terminated after a short time due to a large number of builders participating.They are paid over a 15 year period and after the project is complete.It is my opinion, others disagree, that the 15 year period is one significant factor driving downtown residential developers to develop apartments instead of condos. Edited June 4, 2014 by UtterlyUrban 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 What was the history of that building? Event space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 What was the history of that building? Event space? I believe that it was an event hall, but only recently. It may have been a small operation type office, and there was a foreign car garage in that general area (with BMW and Acura symbols painted on the windows) but that may have been another building, but it has not been anything successful in my memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 What is the tax rate for a building vs an empty lot. If it's more they probably just don't want to pay extra taxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Obvious answer is "how do I get that game day, parking lot cash money?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 2014-06-17 19.34.24 by marclongoria, on Flickr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) It looks like they used the brick from the original structure and put it all over the lot.... From yesterday. 2014-07-18 18.18.11 by marclongoria, on Flickr Edited July 20, 2014 by Triton 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 thats kinda confusing.....what is that for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 thats kinda confusing.....what is that for?Is this on the phase1 or phase 2 lot?If phase 2:To keep the soil from running off over the next two years before they break ground? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 UtterlyUrban's comment has a degree of truth to it. haha. Nonetheless, if theyre starting construction, it's essentially free gravel for their equipment to drive on and gain traction in the mud. --thats my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specwriter Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 UtterlyUrban's comment has a degree of truth to it. haha. Nonetheless, if theyre starting construction, it's essentially free gravel for their equipment to drive on and gain traction in the mud. --thats my guess. I think your guess is a very good one, Purdue. In the past we've had contractors ask to tap contingency funds to put in temporary (gravel) drives so that their schedules wouldn't be so impacted by long stretches of rainy weather. I haven't see that problem much lately until the beginning of this year. Many contractors are now including it (temporary surfaces) as part of their overhead. When this brick is no longer needed it can be scraped up and, hopefully, put to some appropriate use instead of going to a landfill. Most demolition specifications are clear about what can be done with this type of waste. Usually, it is not a good idea to bury it on the site though some of the unscrupulous will do that to save transportation and disposal fees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Down to 8-floors.. http://www.downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2014-08-28/140814_Double_Sided_Development_Map_Renders_Map_11x17.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Down to 8-floors.. http://www.downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2014-08-28/140814_Double_Sided_Development_Map_Renders_Map_11x17.pdf are we sure? Because wasn't that the original height... maybe it isn't updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Down to 8-floors..http://www.downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2014-08-28/140814_Double_Sided_Development_Map_Renders_Map_11x17.pdfCan one get 518 "normal sized" units in two 8-story buildings or is this a typo from the original proposal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Can one get 518 "normal sized" units in two 8-story buildings or is this a typo from the original proposal?This one started life as 2x12. When the renders came out (shown on Page 1), it looked like 8. I'm not sure who got the idea it was 21, but it appears that the idea all along was for 8 stories - possibly in one monolithic building spanning two city blocks. Oh, well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 They've been using the lot for parking for Toyota center events, I've noticed. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I saw the updated renderings for Camden's project a few weeks back. This forum will love it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 It was right at 20 stories and the design reminded me a lot of the Marquette multi-family project. Camden's is more rounded at the top, but very similar. Sorry for posting off topic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro West Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) 20 stories sounds plenty tall for that section of downtown. This seems like it would be a terrible place for a low or mid rise. 2 sides of the building wouldn't have a view of anything except freeway ramps. However, twin 20 story buildings in that spot could make quite an impact and could have the best view of downtown in the entire city. It would be like the view from UH Stadium, only up close and personal. Edited September 19, 2014 by Metro West 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I saw the updated renderings for Camden's project a few weeks back. This forum will love it.CREguy is talking about the Camden project to the North, not the blocks that are the subject of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It was right at 20 stories and the design reminded me a lot of the Marquette multi-family project. Camden's is more rounded at the top, but very similar. Sorry for posting off topic. We encourage this type of off-topic discussion. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 It was right at 20 stories and the design reminded me a lot of the Marquette multi-family project. Camden's is more rounded at the top, but very similar. Sorry for posting off topic.Ok im lost, which project are we talking about here, that is right at 20 stories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Many apologies, I was replying to the post prior to mine about Camden. It was off-topic and my post does not relate to this discussion. Many apologies, I was replying to the post prior to mine about Camden. It was off-topic and my post does not relate to this discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Many apologies, I was replying to the post prior to mine about Camden. It was off-topic and my post does not relate to this discussion. Many apologies, I was replying to the post prior to mine about Camden. It was off-topic and my post does not relate to this discussion.No worries. We like off topic posts when they are about new info pertaining to other projects. I was just confused as to what you were referring to. Didn't think this one was going to end up 20 stories. Heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 22, 2014 Author Share Posted September 22, 2014 It was right at 20 stories and the design reminded me a lot of the Marquette multi-family project. Camden's is more rounded at the top, but very similar. Sorry for posting off topic. How many units? The new development map says 518, but just saw somewhere else that's now 560. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I will try and find out more information, and report my findings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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