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maybe next...??? WHY IS THIS GUY RUNNING HOUSTON FIRST?!? they'll have a hard time accomplishing anything visionary so long as that guy is at the helm.. he is supposed to be a leader of one of downtowns larger government run organizations, supporting the revitalization of downtown. and even he won't move forward with his project?? ugh..

Ya, how dare he make pragmatic business decisions.

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Snapped this the other day. Slightly wonky since I had to photomerge a multiple photos to get the entire building in the shot.

Camden announced phase I is a go on their earnings call. Should kick off Q4-2017. It'll be 21 stories, as discussed here.   They have no definite plans for phase II.  

The clouds showed up the one time i managed to get downtown... Nevertheless, here are a few shots.          

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heh, i knew someone would come in with a "reality check". I'm just saying its pretty messed up that other developers have more faith in downtown Houston than the leader of Houston First.

I agree, his project should have been the first development to start construction. Marvy Finger or even Novare should take his place they have shown more confidence in downtown Houston then Campo has.

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from the article:

 

During the energy boom, commercial and multifamily developers rushed to deliver thousands of new office buildings and apartment towers to satisfy the demand from Houston’s job and population growth.

 

 

 

did I miss something?

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This guy is full of it!

I agree Campo sat on his a** while other developers started developments before and after him. The super block is a perfect example. He had the land way before there was any hint of an energy cool down.

Block 365, skyhouse main and others started after he started demo for Camden conte. Campo is dragging his feet because that is what he does. The economy is just a convenient excuse.

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Yall need to chill for real. You can't just cry about wanting "cool tall buildings!" to go up in Houston. There are a hell of a lot more economics involved in all of these projects that almost none of you, besides someone like swtsig, would even begin to understand.

This thread is just turning into a ssc or ssp page and that's so unnecessary.

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Says a lot about our city that this guy's heading the organization that's "leading the effort to promote Houston as one of the great cities of the world." Guess parking lots, projects that reject mixed use and literally block important parks from fully developing, and subpar apartment complexes are what some feel makes Houston one of the great cities of the world. 

 

I think Camden's presence on the NYSE was reason enough to pitchfork Campo into that position.

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Yall need to chill for real. You can't just cry about wanting "cool tall buildings!" to go up in Houston. There are a hell of a lot more economics involved in all of these projects that almost none of you, besides someone like swtsig, would even begin to understand.

This thread is just turning into a ssc or ssp page and that's so unnecessary.

I don't care if it's tall or not. I am more a fan of filling up empty space and adding activity. What is erring With wanting downtown to be less dead?

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I don't care if it's tall or not. I am more a fan of filling up empty space and adding activity. What is erring With wanting downtown to be less dead?

That's not what I said, don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying it's a hell of a lot more complicated than just saying "I want downtown'so be bigger" and jumping to weird conclusions like getting rid of Campo. You have to take into account the economics of a project and whether or not it's viable to throw in thousands of new units here when there's no clear guarantee that it will all work. This isn't China where we can build empt cities and wait for the people to come live. This is Houston and we have to actually think about these things.
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That's not what I said, don't put words in my mouth. I'm saying it's a hell of a lot more complicated than just saying "I want downtown'so be bigger" and jumping to weird conclusions like getting rid of Campo. You have to take into account the economics of a project and whether or not it's viable to throw in thousands of new units here when there's no clear guarantee that it will all work. This isn't China where we can build empt cities and wait for the people to come live. This is Houston and we have to actually think about these things.

so Hines, BMS/Woodbranch, Novare, Finger, Alliance, Marquette, Resolution, Leon, etc. aren't thinking things through, and are merely throwing up apartment complexes just to save 15,000 per unit on empty apartment units? right... i guess Hines is stupid. :rolleyes:

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Holy crap you're taking everything I said out of context. I didn't say literally anything you just posted so idk why you think any of that is relevant.

I'm saying it's extremely naïve and childish to call for this man's job when none of you actually work in the industry. There's so much that goes on behind closed doors that we'll never know.

Besides, wouldn't you think it a little suspicious to see the man in charge of Houston First push his projects before others?

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Holy crap you're taking everything I said out of context. I didn't say literally anything you just posted so idk why you think any of that is relevant.

I'm saying it's extremely naïve and childish to call for this man's job when none of you actually work in the industry. There's so much that goes on behind closed doors that we'll never know.

Besides, wouldn't you think it a little suspicious to see the man in charge of Houston First push his projects before others?

I wouldn't think it was suspicious at all. He'd be putting his money where his mouth is.

It's pretty sad that Houston's main cheerleader, who touts to everyone about Houston's "robust economy", doesn't believe in Houston's economy.

His company gave Houston a B minus grade, when I'm almost CERTAIN he's selling everyone else that Houston is an "A+, world class city with jobs and a booming economy."

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No cloud I clearly have noooooo idea what it's for....

All I was saying was that there are so many reasons for why this isn't going thru immediately while others are. So many more than you and plenty of others here understand.

What the fvk ever man, I'm done arguing semantics.

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you still talking to me or was only the first line addressed to me? I've never had a problem with you, in fact we usually see eye to eye on most things. you just seem to fail to understand where were coming from here..?

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Yeah you're right, we do, but we're allowed to disagree on one thing right? I said what I said because most of the people here are very smart when it comes to these projects. I'd rather this forum not turn into the classic ssc or ssp post of "LET'S BUILD IT BECAUSE IT'S TALL" while ignoring any sense of economic responsibility. Not to say you did that, I just feel like it's unfair to simply say "we should fire Campo because he hasn't built his projects yet", I'm just saying there are a lot more reasons behind the why he hasn't built it yet...

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Of course there are. I just feel like if all these others are able to make it happen, someone with as much prowess as Campo should of been able to figure it out by now. Ah well, please forgive me for my Campo rant.

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do you not understand what Houston First is or the importance of their mission for downtown...?

 

Given their origins, Houston First is supposed to bring new businesses, new residents, new conventions and other new things to Houston by whatever means necessary. Including beatdowns of the Perots. ;)

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Drove by this block this morning, and it looked like there was a green construction fence up around half of it.  Don't know how long its been up though. (The block facing the park, north of Leeland)

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Drove by this block this morning, and it looked like there was a green construction fence up around half of it.  Don't know how long its been up though. (The block facing the park, north of Leeland)

 

It's been there since this post: http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/29372-camden-conte-21-stories-x2-2-phases-downtown/?p=488858

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I wonder how this affects the downtown building incentives? I knew we hit the limit last month on the number, but if he's not going to be building does this mean technically a new party could come in and claim the incentives if they build first?

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Help me understand......

I thought that tower 1 goes on this property and tower two goes on the block behind. True?

Correct - Phase 2 is the block behind. But IIRC, Ric Campo has delayed this entire project even though it is approved for DLI tax incentives.

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