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The way I read the rule, it doesn't necessarily say that if a project is cancelled the incentives can't be reassigned (at least from what I read on a memo posted on another thread).

The memo said that once the incentive program is closed - either because the cap is reached or the timeframe expires in 2016 - then the incentives can't be reassigned to other projects. Theoretically, I understand, if a project is cancelled now, the incentives are up for grabs. The real issue is that a project rarely ever gets cancelled, rather it is delayed indefinitely.

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Snapped this the other day. Slightly wonky since I had to photomerge a multiple photos to get the entire building in the shot.

Camden announced phase I is a go on their earnings call. Should kick off Q4-2017. It'll be 21 stories, as discussed here.   They have no definite plans for phase II.  

The clouds showed up the one time i managed to get downtown... Nevertheless, here are a few shots.          

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Oh, I get it. If I don't like your opinion I'm in the wrong place. Sorry to interrupt YOUR board. It's not YOUR board, and  it's not YOUR property. 

 

Oh, I get it. If i mock your opinion and turn it into something completely different than your intended use, then I'm in the wrong place. I apologize for putting words in your mouth and interrupting the board. There was absolutely no need for that.

 

FIFY.

 

Okay...sorry for interrupting the board myself, but I just felt like that needed to be said. 

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On your what list? I'm sure they find that most disconcerting and will immediately reverse course, track you down, and solicit your opinion as to what they should do with THEIR PROPERTY. 

 

No, I think Campo has hired a hit man and intends to bury all critics six feet under the parking lot. :ph34r:

 

Just because he's the developer doesn't mean he isn't a blooming idiot.

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No, I think Campo has hired a hit man and intends to bury all critics six feet under the parking lot. :ph34r:

 

Just because he's the developer doesn't mean he isn't a blooming idiot.

 

It doesn't make any difference whether the developer is a "blooming idiot" or a genius. IT's his property, not yours.

 

Let's say you buy a lot with the intention of building a home in the next several years. Somebody drives by your lot, notices that it is not landscaped and manicured like the many homes surrounding it. He searches the tax records, finds you are the owner and then publishes on the internet that you are on his _ _ _ _ list because you have not built a home. I'm sure that would be totally OK with you. If it were me I would blast back, "It's none of your fricking business what I do with my land. If you want it to look a certain way there is a solution - BUY IT!"

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It doesn't make any difference whether the developer is a "blooming idiot" or a genius. IT's his property, not yours.

 

Let's say you buy a lot with the intention of building a home in the next several years. Somebody drives by your lot, notices that it is not landscaped and manicured like the many homes surrounding it. He searches the tax records, finds you are the owner and then publishes on the internet that you are on his _ _ _ _ list because you have not built a home. I'm sure that would be totally OK with you. If it were me I would blast back, "It's none of your fricking business what I do with my land. If you want it to look a certain way there is a solution - BUY IT!"

 

Get real.

 

If you bought a lot in any area that is desirable and has homeowners who care about their own properties and then you let your lot fall into disrepair you better bet you'll get blasted for it. If there's an HOA, get ready to be sued. 

 

We do not live in a libertarian utopia. We live with neighbors. Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you SHOULD.

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It doesn't make any difference whether the developer is a "blooming idiot" or a genius. IT's his property, not yours.

 

Let's say you buy a lot with the intention of building a home in the next several years. Somebody drives by your lot, notices that it is not landscaped and manicured like the many homes surrounding it. He searches the tax records, finds you are the owner and then publishes on the internet that you are on his _ _ _ _ list because you have not built a home. I'm sure that would be totally OK with you. If it were me I would blast back, "It's none of your fricking business what I do with my land. If you want it to look a certain way there is a solution - BUY IT!"

 

What you describe sounds like the typical HOA. . . 

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Arbpro seems to place property rights quite high on the list of all rights enjoyed by those who live in the US.

I would be curious though. Arbpro, are you a single family home owner? Would it be ok with you if your neighbor on the left and on the right bulldozed their homes and put up a parking dirt/gravel parking lot for the patrons of the local bar (3 blocks away) to use? If it was a perfectly legal use for your neighbors to do that in that location, you wouldn't have a problem with it, right? after all, it is their land, right?

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Arbpro seems to place property rights quite high on the list of all rights enjoyed by those who live in the US.

I would be curious though. Arbpro, are you a single family home owner? Would it be ok with you if your neighbor on the left and on the right bulldozed their homes and put up a parking dirt/gravel parking lot for the patrons of the local bar (3 blocks away) to use? If it was a perfectly legal use for your neighbors to do that in that location, you wouldn't have a problem with it, right? after all, it is their land, right?

Thanks for this. Made me smile.

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It doesn't make any difference whether the developer is a "blooming idiot" or a genius. IT's his property, not yours.

Let's say you buy a lot with the intention of building a home in the next several years. Somebody drives by your lot, notices that it is not landscaped and manicured like the many homes surrounding it. He searches the tax records, finds you are the owner and then publishes on the internet that you are on his _ _ _ _ list because you have not built a home. I'm sure that would be totally OK with you. If it were me I would blast back, "It's none of your fricking business what I do with my land. If you want it to look a certain way there is a solution - BUY IT!"

^ Didn't know Ric Campo had a HAIF account. :rolleyes:
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It doesn't make any difference whether the developer is a "blooming idiot" or a genius. IT's his property, not yours.

 

Let's say you buy a lot with the intention of building a home in the next several years. Somebody drives by your lot, notices that it is not landscaped and manicured like the many homes surrounding it. He searches the tax records, finds you are the owner and then publishes on the internet that you are on his _ _ _ _ list because you have not built a home. I'm sure that would be totally OK with you. If it were me I would blast back, "It's none of your fricking business what I do with my land. If you want it to look a certain way there is a solution - BUY IT!"

 

Wow what are you talking about? I live next to a vacant lot and the city even put up a yellow sign (edit: indicating they had one month to clean the property back in October) on the property because it was overgrown and the owner never takes care of it. They've been receiving fines every month now but they still don't seem to care... they are just letting the lot sit there while the rest of the neighborhood absolutely hates it and my neighborhood doesn't even have a home owners association.

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Camden downtown

Location: Two downtown blocks bounded by LaBranch, Austin, Bell and Pease

Developer: Camden

Original plan: In May, Camden said it was planning a two-phased complex on 3 acres of downtown land.

Update: Campo said the company is still designing the project and is not yet prepared to start it. "We'll see how the markets unfold and what happens to construction and rents," he said.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Cracks-forming-in-commercial-real-estate-market-6037038.php#/0

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I just looked closer at the renderings. It seems that entrance to the resident garage is on LaBranch. If this rendering ever gets built, I hope that Camden switches the entrance to one of the other sides as traffic on game nights can be pretty bad on LaBranch, especially right in front of the TC parking garage.

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Why are there garage entrances/exits on THREE SIDES? Including facing the park?

 

Pretty sure those are not all garage entrances/exits.  Looks like we have a drop-off/valet drive entrance and exit, in addition to a garage entrance/exit.

 

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That's a great location. Come home after a long day at the office downtown, and pop across the street for a basketball game or a Lady Gaga concert. B)

Absolutely true.

Of course the same can be said for just about any block in downtown. Heck, houston's entire Downtown is something like 1 mile X 1 mile. You can be just about anywhere downtown, on foot in 15 minutes or less.

Want to go to the Opera, symphony, ballet, theatre, movies, basketball, baseball, soccer, acquirium, music concerts, bowling, library, or 50 restaraunts or bars? It's all less than a 15 minute walk or a fixed price $6 cab ride.

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Had dinner with a friend who is an exec at Camden. Asked about this project and she said phase one should start to rise in late 3rd/early 4th quarter of this year.

Just passing this along: Nancy Sarnoff quoted Ric Campo as saying it will not start this year, maybe next.

https://twitter.com/nsarnoff/status/594217713804816385

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maybe next...??? WHY IS THIS GUY RUNNING HOUSTON FIRST?!? they'll have a hard time accomplishing anything visionary so long as that guy is at the helm.. he is supposed to be a leader of one of downtowns larger government run organizations, supporting the revitalization of downtown. and even he won't move forward with his project?? ugh..

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maybe next...??? WHY IS THIS GUY RUNNING HOUSTON FIRST?!? they'll have a hard time accomplishing anything visionary so long as that guy is at the helm.. he is supposed to be a leader of one of downtowns larger government run organizations, supporting the revitalization of downtown. and even he won't move forward with his project?? ugh..

 

 

I wish they would release the incentives from this project and offer to another developer who will build and not hold the remaining units for the DLI hostage.

 

Says a lot about our city that this guy's heading the organization that's "leading the effort to promote Houston as one of the great cities of the world." Guess parking lots, projects that reject mixed use and literally block important parks from fully developing, and subpar apartment complexes are what some feel makes Houston one of the great cities of the world. 

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That sucks. She was fairly confident but she isn't calling the shots.

I think this happens personally. Confidence that Houston is going to remain strong and developers won't want to miss an opportunity with the incentive.

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