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There's another very long thread concerning this, but it can be summed up by this from the article...

 

"According to an increasing number of homeowners and builders in the Heights, the guidelines are not true guidelines. The HAHC utilizes subjectivity in criteria, meaning a homeowner can do everything in his or her power to follow the rules, only to be told they don’t apply in certain instances."

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Its only 90% because the homeowners have been forced to compromise over and over and over again PRIOR to the actual hearing day.  They meet with people at the HAHC to TRY to get everything lined up for approval prior to the actual hearing....Its also 90% because many people are withdrawing their applications because they won't be permitted to do what they want.

 

Do not confuse statistics with a job well done.  The government tells us this month that we are down to only 7% unemployment!!!  That is great, except that 23-25% of the country is not working because they have now been on unemployment so long that they are not considered unemployed any longer....My point is that the 90% statistic is as pointless as the unemployment statistic. 

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 The government tells us this month that we are down to only 7% unemployment!!!  That is great, except that 23-25% of the country is not working because they have now been on unemployment so long that they are not considered unemployed any longer....

 

 

Your statement is complete nonsense.

 

Here are the stats for those not participating in the workforce.  The bulk of these people choose not to work because they are retired (the stats provided will show that more than half of these people are 55+), stay at home moms (stats are also dominated by women), or perhpas idle rich, but the number who fit the category you describe i less than 1% of the population, and completely irrelevant. 

 

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat35.htm

 

Additionally, participation in the labor force is the highest it has been since 1978.

http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea01.htm

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Your statement is complete nonsense.

 

Here are the stats for those not participating in the workforce.  The bulk of these people choose not to work because they are retired (the stats provided will show that more than half of these people are 55+), stay at home moms (stats are also dominated by women), or perhpas idle rich, but the number who fit the category you describe i less than 1% of the population, and completely irrelevant. 

 

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat35.htm

 

Additionally, participation in the labor force is the highest it has been since 1978.

http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea01.htm

 

Apparently, the unemployment statistics are determined by survey each month.

 

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

 

The process leaves wiggle room for someone in the BLS (or elsewhere, perhaps) to determine what constitutes "unemployment" from the government perspective.

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Your statement is complete nonsense.

 

Here are the stats for those not participating in the workforce.  The bulk of these people choose not to work because they are retired (the stats provided will show that more than half of these people are 55+), stay at home moms (stats are also dominated by women), or perhpas idle rich, but the number who fit the category you describe i less than 1% of the population, and completely irrelevant. 

 

http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat35.htm

 

Additionally, participation in the labor force is the highest it has been since 1978.

http://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpseea01.htm

 

While off topic, I cant allow it to go without response - the "Not in the labor force" number are people who ARE employable but have quit looking for a job.  That number is driving the unemployment number down.  After the 99 weeks of unemployment ran out they are no longer considered to be in the labor force, regardless of age....I do not trust any statistic that removes people who otherwise can and should be working from their roles because they have been without a job too long.  The number of people not in the labor force is up 3% or more than 10,000,000 people since 2008.  Some of those retired because they could, others cant find a job b/c they are older, demand more money, and are competing against a younger healthier work force.  Most are not retired by choice, and the number of idle rich is statistically so low as to be insignificant....10,000,000 people is not an insignificant, irrelevant number.

 

To tie it back to the topic - The number of people who are applying and getting to do what they want to do to THEIR house is not 90%....the 90% number reflects people who also just compromised whether they wanted to or not because they needed to get something done and did not have the energy or the desire or the money to fight the HAHC

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To tie it back to the topic - The number of people who are applying and getting to do what they want to do to THEIR house is not 90%....the 90% number reflects people who also just compromised whether they wanted to or not because they needed to get something done and did not have the energy or the desire or the money to fight the HAHC

 

Assumption 1:  all approvals are the result of painful compromises by owners.  Most go through the process with little if any changes.

Assumption 2:  All denials resulted in abandonment.  Some have come back with revised plans and been approved.  The majority who went to the planning commission have prevailed.

Assumption 3:  There are hordes of people who do not even try because they are so afraid of the big bad wolf HAHC that they do not even submit an application.  The reality is that there is a long line of investors/builders and individuals looking for property in the Heights.  The chicken plant and warehouse on Ashland were both bought out for new construction in the Western HD, while the warehouse on Waverly (outside the HD) remains standing.  The main reason people are not able to buy/build in the Heights is that it is just too expensive.  Lots and existing bungalows are extremely expensive and builders want to do 3000+ sq feet so they can sell for 900k-1mil +.  That gets to a very select demographic that can afford that kind of home.

 

The reality:  the adults in the room are addressing complaints about predictability with HAHC.  No government regulatory scheme is without problems.  The relevant CMs are working to address them with HAHC.  No one supports throwing out the baby with the bath water because of problems that can easily be solved.  Most everyone is fine with the fact that you will not get everything you want when working within a regulatory system because you will, in the end, get to build in a neighborhood that has some architectural integrity and not marred with shoulder to shoulder faux New Orleans boxes, odd ball moderns, and other architectural duds.  You have to give a little to get a little.

 

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The 90% approval of COA's is actually quoted by Margaret Brown as 85%. Without this being broken down it is meaningless if 90% of the applications are to repair a window or handrail. We have asked but not received a breakdown by category. Additions and new construction are NOT getting an 85% approval. I don't know what the numbers are but in the January meeting 7 of 16 applications were denied COA's. A far cry from 85%.

Define "compatible" and "typical" from the ordinance and then see how many yes votes turn to no.

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The 90% approval of COA's is actually quoted by Margaret Brown as 85%. Without this being broken down it is meaningless if 90% of the applications are to repair a window or handrail. We have asked but not received a breakdown by category. Additions and new construction are NOT getting an 85% approval. I don't know what the numbers are but in the January meeting 7 of 16 applications were denied COA's. A far cry from 85%.

Define "compatible" and "typical" from the ordinance and then see how many yes votes turn to no.

 

Every month, the HAHC posts the agenda for the upcoming meeting on the website with a detailed narrative of the application submitted and then posts the meeting minutes.  It is very easy to track what exactly is being submitted and the result if you spend a few minutes looking at the website (you would have to use the wayback machine for 2013 as it is no longer posted on the current website). 

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