Howard Huge 2316 Posted January 12, 2016 So whats the word here? The Marriott has topped out, is this one still a go? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Huge 2316 Posted January 12, 2016 http://www.wylieassociates.com/project/discovery-tower/667,000 GSF, New Apartment Tower Including:• 280,260 SF, 251 Apartment Units• Outdoor Plaza Deck with Pool• Fitness Area & Club/Meeting Area• Residential Lobby Area• 6,700 SF, Retail• 229,664 SF, Parking Garage• Pursuing LEED® CertificationSo gorgeous, still my most anticipated downtown tower. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UtterlyUrban 1631 Posted January 12, 2016 I adore this project. But, my opinion is that it will not break ground anytime soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Huge 2316 Posted January 12, 2016 I think I remember reading 3rd quarter groundbreaking... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nate99 7202 Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Isn't TC fairly tight lipped about everything? I walk by regularly, the lot is still full of Marriott construction trailers. I would like to see a rendering from this angle. DG will be all closed in, which I think is pretty cool. Edited January 12, 2016 by Nate99 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 10447 Posted January 25, 2016 They REALLY need to start construction on this project in the next couple of months, or I don't see this thing moving for several years. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UtterlyUrban 1631 Posted January 26, 2016 They REALLY need to start construction on this project in the next couple of months, or I don't see this thing moving for several years.Agreed. Sad but true. I really like this concept and I hope it gets built but I fear that it won't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoustonIsHome 1361 Posted January 26, 2016 I would like to see a rendering from this angle. DG will be all closed in, which I think is pretty cool.10 years ago DG was not yet born, two huge surface parking lots stood in its place, one Park place, Hess, Marriott Marquis, Houston pavilions/ greenstreet.... was not yet built.We have come a long way 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urbannizer 39899 Posted February 19, 2016 Recently saw a start of 1Q 2017 for this one.. 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbates2 1020 Posted February 19, 2016 Sounds much more aligned with the full completion of the Marriott Marquis. Still really excited about this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 10447 Posted February 19, 2016 Recently saw a start of 1Q 2017 for this one.. With the local economy the way it is, I'm thinking 2018 or 19 will be more realistic. Thinking back to the Great Recession, many projects in Houston that were proposed in 2007 did not start until about 2012 and 2013. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgriff 627 Posted February 19, 2016 With the local economy the way it is, I'm thinking 2018 or 19 will be more realistic. Thinking back to the Great Recession, many projects in Houston that were proposed in 2007 did not start until about 2012 and 2013.And some of those still haven't.... Regent Square. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 10447 Posted February 19, 2016 And some of those still haven't.... Regent Square. True but Regent Square probably has the largest footprint of any other project, even larger than River Oaks District. It's going to take a lot of commitment to get that one through. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 10447 Posted March 1, 2016 Well, looks like they waited too late for this project. New data is showing multi-family is absolutely plummeting in the Houston market, especially the higher-end category. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsanity02 1022 Posted March 1, 2016 I think this is such a choice residential area it will come about eventually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 10447 Posted March 1, 2016 I think this is such a choice residential area it will come about eventually. I certainly do too... thinking 2018 or 19. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cspwal 2991 Posted March 2, 2016 Well, looks like they waited too late for this project. New data is showing multi-family is absolutely plummeting in the Houston market, especially the higher-end category. Has it spread to the downtown market yet? Last I saw was downtown and midtown were still strong, though that was a few months ago Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nate99 7202 Posted March 3, 2016 Has it spread to the downtown market yet? Last I saw was downtown and midtown were still strong, though that was a few months ago With all the residential about to come online downtown, it's probably hard to judge. I'm really interested to see prices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swtsig 2653 Posted March 3, 2016 Well, looks like they waited too late for this project. New data is showing multi-family is absolutely plummeting in the Houston market, especially the higher-end category. matter of perspective - i'm sure TC is thanking their lucky stars they didn't start 6-9 months ago. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1227 Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Edited September 27, 2016 by Yoda 13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsanity02 1022 Posted September 27, 2016 This design looks different from the previous ones. Where did you locate it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1227 Posted September 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Twinsanity02 said: This design looks different from the previous ones. Where did you locate it? http://zieglercooper.com/confidential-urban-residential-development/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H-Town Man 3879 Posted September 27, 2016 Say it's so. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 10447 Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Didn't Urbannizer post that one before? Edit: Looks like some of the pics are gone now though. Edited September 27, 2016 by Triton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate4l1f3 776 Posted September 27, 2016 Can't recall if there is ground floor retail here... Anyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 1848 Posted September 27, 2016 The Ziegler Cooper description suggests a 34-story tower now. The rendering still puts it about the same height as the Hess building. I have to wonder how keen Trammell Crow would actually be to move forward. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArtNsf 472 Posted September 28, 2016 17 hours ago, houstontexasjack said: The Ziegler Cooper description suggests a 34-story tower now. The rendering still puts it about the same height as the Hess building. I have to wonder how keen Trammell Crow would actually be to move forward. Actually, they also mention an 11 story parking garage underneath? If that's the case, then it will be about 45 floors in total, no ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston19514 3234 Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArtNsf said: Actually, they also mention an 11 story parking garage underneath? If that's the case, then it will be about 45 floors in total, no ? The 11-story parking garage is included in the 40-story floor count. You can tell by counting the floors in the renderings. Edited September 28, 2016 by Houston19514 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enriquewx91 729 Posted September 28, 2016 Such a great addition but I can't see this project happening with the current state of the economy in Houston. I hope I am wrong though 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArtNsf 472 Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Houston19514 said: The 11-story parking garage is included in the 40-story floor count. You can tell by counting the floors in the renderings. Ah, okay, thanks for the correction. Still 40 stories is pretty tall though. Looking forward to one or two supertalls someday downtown 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nate99 7202 Posted September 28, 2016 DG as a really neat "sunken" feel to it when you look out toward Hess and Houston Center. This tower would fill it in even more. If that Camden project in front of Toyota Center ever goes, the continuity of new development would be pretty big in what I vividly remember being a real wasteland pre-GRB. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CREguy13 1130 Posted November 22, 2016 Hopefully we get an update on this project in the coming weeks as the Marriott clears its staging area. Whether its shelved, delayed, or moving forward, any update would be appreciated. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UtterlyUrban 1631 Posted November 22, 2016 4 hours ago, CREguy13 said: Hopefully we get an update on this project in the coming weeks as the Marriott clears its staging area. Whether its shelved, delayed, or moving forward, any update would be appreciated. Agreed. my opinion is that this is tabled for "a bit". As I recall, this was to be apartments. It will be interesting to see if the developers switch to condos.... I guess that will largely depend on the Marlowe and its trajectory. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KinkaidAlum 2411 Posted November 22, 2016 Marlowe has sold 46 units with 49 left on the market. The good news is most of the 46 that have sold are the larger/higher priced/higher floored units. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UtterlyUrban 1631 Posted November 22, 2016 12 minutes ago, KinkaidAlum said: Marlowe has sold 46 units with 49 left on the market. The good news is most of the 46 that have sold are the larger/higher priced/higher floored units. Why is this "good news"? (Not being mean, I just don't understand). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
htownboy 216 Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, UtterlyUrban said: Why is this "good news"? (Not being mean, I just don't understand). Well, if all of the pricier units are already gone, we can assume that the cheaper units will sell like hotcakes-- even quicker than the others. edit: (oops i forgot that we were talking about block 98) I'm assuming that he is hoping for Marlowe to sell out quickly, so Block 98 can rise soon. Edited November 22, 2016 by htownboy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UtterlyUrban 1631 Posted November 22, 2016 But if cheaper units sells fast, why haven't they already sold? the most in-demand units always sell first. The less in-demand units sell later and are sometimes hard to sell. I guess I still don't understand the point the poster was making. There may very well be "good news" at the Marlowe but I am just not sure what that might be. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CREguy13 1130 Posted November 23, 2016 6 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said: But if cheaper units sells fast, why haven't they already sold? the most in-demand units always sell first. The less in-demand units sell later and are sometimes hard to sell. I guess I still don't understand the point the poster was making. There may very well be "good news" at the Marlowe but I am just not sure what that might be. Perhaps the good news is there is more of a market for higher-priced, for-sale units downtown. If that's the case, it could lead to more dynamic developments in the next cycle. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KinkaidAlum 2411 Posted November 23, 2016 28 minutes ago, CREguy13 said: Perhaps the good news is there is more of a market for higher-priced, for-sale units downtown. If that's the case, it could lead to more dynamic developments in the next cycle. This. The penthouse units on floors 18-20 are almost sold out. That's where the profit margin lies. It'll encourage more development than if the opposite were true (meaning the cheaper units sold first and the higher priced ones languished on the market). 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UtterlyUrban 1631 Posted November 23, 2016 Got it. I understand the point now. Will it also mean that developers will be building fewer "less expensive" units and more expensive units in buildings? If what you say is true, I assume so. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CREguy13 1130 Posted November 23, 2016 8 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said: Got it. I understand the point now. Will it also mean that developers will be building fewer "less expensive" units and more expensive units in buildings? If what you say is true, I assume so. That remains to be seen. As more amenities (restaurants, entertainment, shops, etc.) pour into downtown making it a 24/7 destination, land prices will continue to go up and it will depend on how the developer can make their margins work. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UtterlyUrban 1631 Posted December 3, 2016 Discovery Tower? i hope that it gets built. I fact, I hope that they break ground on February 7th. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monarch 2993 Posted December 3, 2016 ^^^ what a banner day indeed! gorgeous DISCOVERY TOWER edifice that shall is slated for a magnificent area of downtown. splendid...... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
H-Town Man 3879 Posted December 5, 2016 Does this mean anything? Who is Yang Liu? 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hindesky 29198 Posted December 21, 2016 Construction trailers for Marriott moving out. 17 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urbannizer 39899 Posted December 30, 2016 This view from the Marriott Marquis outdoor level may not last long. 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate4l1f3 776 Posted December 30, 2016 12 hours ago, Urbannizer said: This view from the Marriott Marquis outdoor level may not last long. They should redisgn the tower to have a huge hole in the middle at eye level of the pool to keep the view 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lockmat 2108 Posted December 31, 2016 22 hours ago, nate4l1f3 said: They should redisgn the tower to have a huge hole in the middle at eye level of the pool to keep the view What I'm hoping happens is that they'll have a great view of soaring towers toward the south/south-west. Lots of potential over there. 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Subdude 1471 Posted January 14, 2017 Note Block 98 topics merged. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites