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Yeah.  The "writing" accompanying the picture of the 40-story Block 98 building describes the Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites development at Crawford and Rusk. That is under construction.  Had anyone at the Chron actually looked at their little slide show and accompanying narrative, even they probably  could have figured out that the building pictured was more than the 14 stories described.   The Chronicle embarrasses again.

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The Chronicle embarrasses again.

This is true. But, let's face it, the Chron like many other papers is under financial duress. Quality is suffering. That said, the reason that the Chron is suffering is because of people like me. I didn't pay the chron a dime to see that slideshow. They had all the expense to create it and got zip from me. That is at least part of the problem.

For those of you who subscribe to the chronicle, you have every right to complain. Me? Nah, I get what I paid. I really have no right to cast stones.

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This is true. But, let's face it, the Chron like many other papers is under financial duress. Quality is suffering. That said, the reason that the Chron is suffering is because of people like me. I didn't pay the chron a dime to see that slideshow. They had all the expense to create it and got zip from me. That is at least part of the problem.

For those of you who subscribe to the chronicle, you have every right to complain. Me? Nah, I get what I paid. I really have no right to cast stones.

 

It is true that newspapers are under great financial duress. On the other hand, you have an army of smart, ultra-talented writers from the top journalism schools in the country who can't find jobs, and would kill to work for a newspaper as big as the Chronicle at low pay. I had a friend who went to the Columbia School of Journalism (one of the top 2 in the country) back in '03-'05 and the best job he could get was a small daily in rural Pennsylvania, for which he worked 70 hour weeks. Finally got burnt out and gave up journalism to do tech writing for an engineering firm. If there is someone at the Chronicle who can't read fast, spell, or match pictures with their descriptions, they should be replaced by one of the thousands of people who are salivating for that job.

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This is true. But, let's face it, the Chron like many other papers is under financial duress. Quality is suffering. That said, the reason that the Chron is suffering is because of people like me. I didn't pay the chron a dime to see that slideshow. They had all the expense to create it and got zip from me. That is at least part of the problem.

For those of you who subscribe to the chronicle, you have every right to complain. Me? Nah, I get what I paid. I really have no right to cast stones.

 

They made money off you just the same. Didn't you notice all of the advertising?

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The previous unit count was 309 in a 40 floor building, or slightly more than 7.5 per floor. Unless there's a density increase, the floor count would have to be 40 atop 12 (or beside 12).

 

Incidentally, the initial rendering of the building appeared to be 23 atop 9.

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There's not. There would likely be 28 levels of residences on top of the 12 floors of parking. A 52 story residential would be the second tallest residential in the state, just behind the austonian, right?

 

In number of floors... building heights can be deciving.  Petronas Towers "passed" the Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower) in total height, but certainly not in the number of floors, or even highest floor level.

 

I was going to say a 52 floor tower with 40 floors of residential was looking to be quite ambitious.

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They made money off you just the same. Didn't you notice all of the advertising?

I did notice that.

I'll best that their web operations aren't profitable. So, my guess is that they still didn't make any money off of me. And, that's unfortunate for them. I do subscribe to the WSJ but I see little reason to subscribe to the Chron.

Anyway, back to the subject of the thread. I hope that this project kicks off in early 2015. My guess is that they will tie the garage podium for the new structure into the existing garage somehow so that they can use the existing garage structure (ramps, etc.) and leave just parking spaces for residents and guests underneath the new tower.

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i wonder what the situation is with the contractors of Marriott Marquis using this site as an office area. i assume there would be some contractual agreement to allow them to use that property, and it must be for a certain amount of time?

I assume so, especially when one considers that one of the designs had this tower and the hotel linked by sky bridge. In that fashion, hotel guests would have access to the tunnels via the Hess resi tower, hess garage, hess building, another set of sky bridges and into the parkshops then into the tunnels.

I am sure that the plan was to coordinate construction with the hotel. However, with oil's uncertainty, I am betting that this resi tower will wait.....

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Would it be possible to ever retrofit the top of the Hess parking garage into additional amenity space for this tower?  Or does that run into a lot of engineering limitations?

 

If they weren't able to share their residential parking with Hess for this tower then I don't think adding anything onto Hess would be a go at all.

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Would it be possible to ever retrofit the top of the Hess parking garage into additional amenity space for this tower? Or does that run into a lot of engineering limitations?

I always assumed that they would use the ramps in the existing garage and tie each floor in. Likely have a "residents" gate on each floor. But, given the comment directly above, I am not sure I am correct.

If they are unable to use the existing garage ramps, that property is so narrow, would be amazed if they could build a garage! Anyone know how it could be done?

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Well, if a 6 floor height reduction is the difference between this getting built and not getting built I guess I'll take it. Heh.

Edit. I just realized the block east of Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites could have views of discovery green over the podium of the Marquis.

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Right, I came up with the same count (40 when looking at the new renderings), but if you count the rendering below, the count is 34.

 

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You'll notice it's shorter than the Hess Tower, whereas in the other renderings, they look to be around the same height.  I guess these new renderings were held back from us when it was 40 stories.  Looks better at 40 if you ask me.  Anyways, we'll soon find out in the next quarter, I hope.

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its clearly not 34 stories.. and this appears to be the newest renderings of the project, given they were updated on/added to ZCs website. so what are we missing? is the 34 stories a typo from old info? surely they didnt spend the money to render buildings with the wrong floor counts?

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