42-story High-Rise for Block 98, Behind Hess Tower

[Nate99 7156]

They re-paved and re-striped the parking lot that was under the MM's construction office trailers.  I'd guess that nothing is imminent, but that repair may have been a condition of them setting up shop on the lot in the first place.

[Twinsanity02 991]

Anyone know, is this thing dead?

[Triton 10403]

55 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said:

Anyone know, is this thing dead?

 

No but you're killing me with this update.

[swtsig 2624]

i've never understood these types of bumps... since when has any major news gone unannounced here??? if it was dead or moving forward someone would've said something. honestly can't remember the last time someone bumped a thread like this and received some groundbreaking news in response.

 

carry on.

[Gary 227]

On ‎3‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 4:45 PM, swtsig said:

i've never understood these types of bumps... since when has any major news gone unannounced here??? if it was dead or moving forward someone would've said something. honestly can't remember the last time someone bumped a thread like this and received some groundbreaking news in response.

 

carry on.

Ha!

[democide 155]

https://www.downtownhouston.org/development/project/planned-residential-3/

 

Estimated construction start 1Q 2018

[H-Town Man 3847]

12 minutes ago, democide said:

https://www.downtownhouston.org/development/project/planned-residential-3/

 

Estimated construction start 1Q 2018

 

Made my heart jump after the Camden announcement. But is this a serious date or more of a whatever/if the market improves by then kind of date?

 

[lockmat 2094]

Pedestrians will get to behold the beauty of the tower's parking garage, or more likely half-vomit their schwarma from Phoenicia's.

[UtterlyUrban 1630]

If this place gets built two things will be true:

1) the east facing units will have an amazing view of the Texas pool across the street and 

2) the incredible skyline view from the Texas pool will be significantly cut off.

 

i remain hopeful that this tower gets built!

 

 

[Nate99 7156]

12 hours ago, lockmat said:

Pedestrians will get to behold the beauty of the tower's parking garage, or more likely half-vomit their schwarma from Phoenicia's.

 

They'll be doing better than the folks that walk off of the skybridge to nowhere. 

 

Seriously though, it would be interesting to see if they would join up the Marriott to the Hess garage and then on through to Houston Center to the tunnel system.  I bet the Marriott would love that.

 

This would somewhat "wall off" the view from DG and obscure the Hampton/Homewood a bit more. I like the canyon feel of DG, and everyone hates looking at the Hampton Inn.  The Camden Tower might help a bit too, but they really need something big on the block across Dallas (?) from One Park Place.

 

 

 

[Twinsanity02 991]

I hope it comes true this time. The groundbreaking dates for this building have been so numerous they are beginning to resemble the cyclic end of the world pronoucements. If it is built it will be a skyline enhancer. With this and the Camden there will be only two more residentials left to build: the other camden and a residential tower on around the 1800 block of Main. What a tremendous change in downtown residential!

[Avossos 1497]

5 hours ago, Twinsanity02 said:

I hope it comes true this time. The groundbreaking dates for this building have been so numerous they are beginning to resemble the cyclic end of the world pronoucements. If it is built it will be a skyline enhancer. With this and the Camden there will be only two more residentials left to build: the other camden and a residential tower on around the 1800 block of Main. What a tremendous change in downtown residential!

 

don't forget the one North of Minute Maid... that one on half the block. I believe same developer as Catalyst...

 

Anyway, I agree - If we get this and Camden (always considered the two towers will come in phases), then there is really just a few projects we don't see movement on. I always hoped the activity was a kick start to constant residential development downtown. If downtown starts to fill up with people... imagine what kind of height we can see...

[Houston19514 3185]

9 minutes ago, Avossos said:

 

don't forget the one North of Minute Maid... that one on half the block. I believe same developer as Catalyst...

 

 

Correct. 24 stories, 304 apartments.  Currently listed with a 2nd Quarter 2018 construction start.  We can hope...

[KinkaidAlum 2402]

You want to see that Marquette project North of Minute Maid go up? Go rent at the Catalyst!

Edited August 1, 2017 by KinkaidAlum

[monarch 2990]

^^^ this!

[Twinsanity02 991]

On 9/27/2016 at 1:29 PM, Yoda said:

Here are some renderings from last september

[CREguy13 1119]

More good news.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2017/08/04/another-downtown-apartment-project-expected-to.html

 

[Sunstar 535]

I guess the downtown living initiative is still in effect. I would have thought they reached the 5000 unit target by now. Has it been extended?

[BigFootsSocks 2981]

In the Chron article it says that they were given an extension on the DLI, and must have a temporary certificate of residency by May2020 to receive the funds.

[H-Town Man 3847]

1 hour ago, CREguy13 said:

More phenomenal news.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2017/08/04/another-downtown-apartment-project-expected-to.html

 

 

Fixed it for you.

 

[Twinsanity02 991]

By my calculations approximately 3678 residential units are UC or have been finished in the last four years. With Block 98  and the Camden another 589 units will be built. This will leave approximately 865 units from the Fairfield, the Marquette  ( north of MMP) and the other Camden. This comes to a grand total of 5132. This includes both DLI and non-DLI influenced construction. 

[Sunstar 535]

6 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said:

By my calculations approximately 3678 residential units are UC or have been finished in the last four years. With Block 98  and the Camden another 589 units will be built. This will leave approximately 865 units from the Fairfield, the Marquette  ( north of MMP) and the other Camden. This comes to a grand total of 5132. This includes both DLI and non-DLI influenced construction. 

 

Thanks for doing the math!

[Triton 10403]

Please don't let there be a recession.... Please don't let there be a recession.... Please don't let there be a recession....

[Naviguessor 1813]

What could go wrong?  

[Gary 227]

Am liking the older brick rendering more than the latter rendering.

[Houston19514 3185]

13 hours ago, Gary said:

Am liking the older brick rendering more than the latter rendering.

 

I think the brick rendering is the newer, extant, rendering.  No?

[H-Town Man 3847]

1 hour ago, Houston19514 said:

 

I think the brick rendering is the newer, extant, rendering.  No?

 

I feel like I remember the brick rendering being earlier and the other renderings coming out later. They seem like better quality. Could be wrong.

 

I like the non-brick ones much better myself.

[shasta 251]

The brick rendering doesn't shows the Marriott Marquis as a parking lot so I'm going to say that is the older rendering.

I like the brick facade better than the stucco or whatever panel system that is.

[Houston19514 3185]

Not sure what is the current, operative rendering, but FWIW, the first rendering posted here at HAIF, back in late 2013, appeared to be non-brick. 

 

Then in early 2014, a new, brick, design was posted.

 

In March 2015 a new Ziegler Cooper glass aluminum and stone design was posted.

 

Then in July 2017, the brick rendering is posted again, but it was just from an updated Downtown Development Map listing.  Those Downtown Development Maps have not been particularly reliable as to renderings.

 

So, following the chronology of renderings posted here at HAIF, the best guess seems to be that the glass aluminum and stone design is the extant design.

[Dakota79 589]

On ‎8‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 9:21 PM, Twinsanity02 said:

Here are some renderings from last september

I wish it was for sale!  That would be great as the views wouldn't change towards Discovery Green.

[bobruss 4510]

We are about to see density levels for residential in the Minute Maid area reach historic proportions and if this gets built I think we will start seeing some serious retail and service oriented GFR in the area. This is truly a remarkable turn around from five years ago when virtually a handful of people lived in this quadrant.

My wife and I being one of them. What a difference  five years make.

[Urbannizer 39755]

[Twinsanity02 991]

I have never heard  a name for this tower except the Trammell Crow block 98 tower

[Urbannizer 39755]

4 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said:

Can someone point me in the right direction to the tower's name?

 

Walker Apartment Tower/Block 98/800 Walker

[H-Town Man 3847]

Urbannizer had a George Springer-type day yesterday.

 

[houstontexasjack 1841]

2 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

Urbannizer had a George Springer-type day yesterday.

 

Springer in the World Series when he was gamma ray burst hot. Not the cold as Hoth Springer that sometimes shows up.

[CREguy13 1119]

Crazy to think parking can work on a site this small, but this project will be awesome.  

[nate4l1f3 772]

Bitter sweet. The pics from the Marriot pool won’t be as cool.  

Shucks!

[hindesky 29081]

18 hours ago, CREguy13 said:

Crazy to think parking can work on a site this small, but this project will be awesome.  

It is very narrow as this pic shows but the surface parking lot has 49 spots with 3 two way entrance/exits, I doubt the podium will have that many entrances on the ground floor but may have a service elevator entrance for furniture delivery. 11x49=539 parking spots

 

[Twinsanity02 991]

Check out the lot sizes in some of the supertalls going up in NYC.  They are quite small

[UtterlyUrban 1630]

The physical logistics of building a building that on this site will be impressive to watch.  Safely Navigating the turns inside that finished parking garage up to the 11th floor will take until Lunch.

 

i am thrilled that this project is coming out of the ground (hopefully) very soon.

[j_cuevas713 2009]

9 hours ago, Twinsanity02 said:

Check out the lot sizes in some of the supertalls going up in NYC.  They are quite small

Yeah but their foundations are built on bedrock, not clay and silt. 

[swtsig 2624]

17 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Yeah but their foundations are built on bedrock, not clay and silt. 

 

they also have next to zero parking requirements. downtown houston certainly has less parking requirements than say katy but not sure by how much.

[H-Town Man 3847]

Mods... save this thread.

 

[talltexan83 84]

Parking lot was closed today when I walked by.  Looks like they were doing some surveying and marking up of the pavement.  

[Montrose1100 2889]

On 1/20/2018 at 11:50 AM, H-Town Man said:

Mods... save this thread.

 

Moved to new thread City of Houston Parking Requirements

[Avossos 1497]

1 hour ago, talltexan83 said:

Parking lot was closed today when I walked by.  Looks like they were doing some surveying and marking up of the pavement.  

 

 

[Purdueenginerd 1212]

On 1/8/2018 at 0:11 AM, j_cuevas713 said:

Yeah but their foundations are built on bedrock, not clay and silt. 

 

 

Doesn't quite work that way. A building with this cross-sectional area would likely be built with driven or drilled piles, with a matt-foundation on top. The depth of the piles might more here than in NYC, but the construction technique is roughly the same. Spread Footing foundations are rare for high rise construction. 

[j_cuevas713 2009]

Just now, Purdueenginerd said:

 

 

Doesn't quite work that way. A building with this cross-sectional area would likely be built with driven or drilled piles, with a matt-foundation on top. The depth of the piles might more here than in NYC, but the construction technique is roughly the same. Spread Footing foundations are rare for high rise construction. 

NIce thanks for the insight

[urbanize713 1202]

Mark up on the ground