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They have a lot of floor counts wrong, (like 39 floors for 2929 Weslayan, which they also have labeled as 2925 Weslayan) so I think it's safe to assume they have no idea what they are talking about.

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The Chronicle is strictly 'amateur hour'. It's like their website is run by summer interns. I would trust the most clueless poster at HAIF before I would trust anyone that writes for the Chronicle.

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Yeah.  The "writing" accompanying the picture of the 40-story Block 98 building describes the Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites development at Crawford and Rusk. That is under construction.  Had anyone at the Chron actually looked at their little slide show and accompanying narrative, even they probably  could have figured out that the building pictured was more than the 14 stories described.   The Chronicle embarrasses again.

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The Chronicle embarrasses again.

This is true. But, let's face it, the Chron like many other papers is under financial duress. Quality is suffering. That said, the reason that the Chron is suffering is because of people like me. I didn't pay the chron a dime to see that slideshow. They had all the expense to create it and got zip from me. That is at least part of the problem.

For those of you who subscribe to the chronicle, you have every right to complain. Me? Nah, I get what I paid. I really have no right to cast stones.

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Speaking of Texas publications, after we moved out of Houston for three years during the bust to Las Cruces, NM, I would spend hours at the library looking at early and mid-eighties editions of Texas Monthly because they had tons of glossy ads for many of the office buildings Houston added early and mid-decade. I know, what kid does that? I also looked every year at the Almanac to see how many tall buildings Houston had and was very excited when Heritage Plaza was built, kind of the end of the party....till now.

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This is true. But, let's face it, the Chron like many other papers is under financial duress. Quality is suffering. That said, the reason that the Chron is suffering is because of people like me. I didn't pay the chron a dime to see that slideshow. They had all the expense to create it and got zip from me. That is at least part of the problem.

For those of you who subscribe to the chronicle, you have every right to complain. Me? Nah, I get what I paid. I really have no right to cast stones.

 

It is true that newspapers are under great financial duress. On the other hand, you have an army of smart, ultra-talented writers from the top journalism schools in the country who can't find jobs, and would kill to work for a newspaper as big as the Chronicle at low pay. I had a friend who went to the Columbia School of Journalism (one of the top 2 in the country) back in '03-'05 and the best job he could get was a small daily in rural Pennsylvania, for which he worked 70 hour weeks. Finally got burnt out and gave up journalism to do tech writing for an engineering firm. If there is someone at the Chronicle who can't read fast, spell, or match pictures with their descriptions, they should be replaced by one of the thousands of people who are salivating for that job.

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This is true. But, let's face it, the Chron like many other papers is under financial duress. Quality is suffering. That said, the reason that the Chron is suffering is because of people like me. I didn't pay the chron a dime to see that slideshow. They had all the expense to create it and got zip from me. That is at least part of the problem.

For those of you who subscribe to the chronicle, you have every right to complain. Me? Nah, I get what I paid. I really have no right to cast stones.

 

They made money off you just the same. Didn't you notice all of the advertising?

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There's not. There would likely be 28 levels of residences on top of the 12 floors of parking. A 52 story residential would be the second tallest residential in the state, just behind the austonian, right?

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The previous unit count was 309 in a 40 floor building, or slightly more than 7.5 per floor. Unless there's a density increase, the floor count would have to be 40 atop 12 (or beside 12).

 

Incidentally, the initial rendering of the building appeared to be 23 atop 9.

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There's not. There would likely be 28 levels of residences on top of the 12 floors of parking. A 52 story residential would be the second tallest residential in the state, just behind the austonian, right?

 

In number of floors... building heights can be deciving.  Petronas Towers "passed" the Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower) in total height, but certainly not in the number of floors, or even highest floor level.

 

I was going to say a 52 floor tower with 40 floors of residential was looking to be quite ambitious.

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They made money off you just the same. Didn't you notice all of the advertising?

I did notice that.

I'll best that their web operations aren't profitable. So, my guess is that they still didn't make any money off of me. And, that's unfortunate for them. I do subscribe to the WSJ but I see little reason to subscribe to the Chron.

Anyway, back to the subject of the thread. I hope that this project kicks off in early 2015. My guess is that they will tie the garage podium for the new structure into the existing garage somehow so that they can use the existing garage structure (ramps, etc.) and leave just parking spaces for residents and guests underneath the new tower.

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Don't they still have some trailers on this location since the last time when construction was just about to begin for the hotel? 

Yes, they still do.

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i wonder what the situation is with the contractors of Marriott Marquis using this site as an office area. i assume there would be some contractual agreement to allow them to use that property, and it must be for a certain amount of time?

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i wonder what the situation is with the contractors of Marriott Marquis using this site as an office area. i assume there would be some contractual agreement to allow them to use that property, and it must be for a certain amount of time?

I assume so, especially when one considers that one of the designs had this tower and the hotel linked by sky bridge. In that fashion, hotel guests would have access to the tunnels via the Hess resi tower, hess garage, hess building, another set of sky bridges and into the parkshops then into the tunnels.

I am sure that the plan was to coordinate construction with the hotel. However, with oil's uncertainty, I am betting that this resi tower will wait.....

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I'm pretty sure that building a skybridge later after the hotel is finished is not at all any kind of issue. The resi tower can definitely add that later if and when it gets built.

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39-floors. 314 units.

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Still my most anticipated groundbreaking of all downtown projects.

Can one of you "industry" guys call up Jim Casey and pry out of him the status of this project?

Jim Casey

Senior Managing Director

(713) 963-1034

Or you could e-mail him!

Jcasey@trammellcrow.com

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Would it be possible to ever retrofit the top of the Hess parking garage into additional amenity space for this tower?  Or does that run into a lot of engineering limitations?

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Would it be possible to ever retrofit the top of the Hess parking garage into additional amenity space for this tower?  Or does that run into a lot of engineering limitations?

 

If they weren't able to share their residential parking with Hess for this tower then I don't think adding anything onto Hess would be a go at all.

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Would it be possible to ever retrofit the top of the Hess parking garage into additional amenity space for this tower? Or does that run into a lot of engineering limitations?

I always assumed that they would use the ramps in the existing garage and tie each floor in. Likely have a "residents" gate on each floor. But, given the comment directly above, I am not sure I am correct.

If they are unable to use the existing garage ramps, that property is so narrow, would be amazed if they could build a garage! Anyone know how it could be done?

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Well, if a 6 floor height reduction is the difference between this getting built and not getting built I guess I'll take it. Heh.

Edit. I just realized the block east of Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites could have views of discovery green over the podium of the Marquis.

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I really like this building. This side of Discovery Green is starting to fill up nicely. Hopefully we can also get more on the other side, especially Block 251.

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Guys, I could be wrong, but a quick count gave me ~ 40+ floors, could this be 34 story tower PLUS 11 floors of parking??!!

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Guys, I could be wrong, but a quick count gave me ~ 40+ floors, could this be 34 story tower PLUS 11 floors of parking??!!

i just counted 29 floors above the garage.. which would still be 40 stories...?

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Right, I came up with the same count (40 when looking at the new renderings), but if you count the rendering below, the count is 34.

 

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You'll notice it's shorter than the Hess Tower, whereas in the other renderings, they look to be around the same height.  I guess these new renderings were held back from us when it was 40 stories.  Looks better at 40 if you ask me.  Anyways, we'll soon find out in the next quarter, I hope.

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its clearly not 34 stories.. and this appears to be the newest renderings of the project, given they were updated on/added to ZCs website. so what are we missing? is the 34 stories a typo from old info? surely they didnt spend the money to render buildings with the wrong floor counts?

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Guys, I could be wrong, but a quick count gave me ~ 40+ floors, could this be 34 story tower PLUS 11 floors of parking??!!

 

The latest development map still has it listed as 40 stories.

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