HNathoo Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I don't imagine they would stop this project unless they know for sure the new ROW is going to happen, and happen pretty quickly. As of now, it's still just a concept. If it does happen, they should be reimbursed for the improvements as well. Wow! But what fkp5 said...What's the likelihood they buy a nearby property not in the alignment ROW to build on instead? I'm sure they'd get reimbursed for this plot of land for the i45 ROW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Sweet! We'll have this for a couple of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Is this the same developer of the Texaco renovations? They originally had an "H & M" listed in the garage retail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Looks gorgeous. If this is indeed in the proposed I-45 right-of-way, starting construction could allow the developer to negotiate quite a bounty with the state (my knowledge of condemnation law is a bit limited, so I would be curious if the developer could seek the value of the completed improvements if he were to start construction--I don't think renderings would permit him to recover anything other than the value of the land absent any other movement). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 and i'm loving it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 That's a pretty fvkd up way of squeezing money out of our state goverment though. I mean, if they start now and force TXDOT to pay more for the land, that just means tax payers will be on the hook for the increased cost.Edit: or federal government since its a Interstate job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hmm, would be interesting if Camden did something like this, with the open part spilling into the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 There is a lot of prime land in the path of this proposed ROW. The holding cost of that land is pretty high. The developer would be doing himself and his investors a disservice if he were to wait and see what happens with the government - it could be another 10 years before we know what happens. I highly doubt TXDOT will pay anyone their holding costs on waiting for them to make their decision, especially if they choose not to move forward with the current ROW concept. That's a pretty fvkd up way of squeezing money out of our state goverment though. I mean, if they start now and force TXDOT to pay more for the land, that just means tax payers will be on the hook for the increased cost.Edit: or federal government since its a Interstate job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curbur Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Huge improvement, but isn't this in the path of the I-45 realignment?The blocks along the freeway certainly are, so I wonder what their contingency plan is if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjorade Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Spoke to a representative and he said they are waiting on permits from the city and are hoping to break ground in 30-90 days. He also mentioned CVS quite a bit and that rental rates would be typical for a class A building. The current renderings are based on what has been submitted for permits from what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Since they also showed H & M in the renderings, can we assume they are a serious tenant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 about as serious as the H&M at Texaco Building, probably.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS27 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I am somewhat skeptical that the I45 realignment will happen as they now proposed. Seems like too much of a pipe dream. Buying all that ROW would definitely blow a lot of taxpayer funds. Corners got to be cut somewhere. Maybe the developer feels the same way. I sure hope to see it built as their latest renderings, and that something a more exciting than a CVS gets put down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Wow, a possible H&M as well. Also, is that Chicago in the background? A lot of our projects for some reason don't seem to want to use backgrounds of Houston in their renderings. Definitely Chicago. Kind of interesting to see they Chicago skyline with a few palm trees in the foreground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoninATX Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Nice!!! That's what I'm taking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Uhhhhh.... this is downtown?Technically... yes. It's part of the superneighborhood called downtown. SN 61. http://www.houstontx.gov/superneighborhoods/profiles/SN_61 But as was mentioned, it's not inside the area allotted for the reinvestment thingy-ma-bob. SN Map: http://www.houstontx.gov/superneighborhoods/snmapsbyzip.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I'm sure someone has already stated this but there are renderings of this project throughout the site's fences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 I knew the new design was too good to be true, sigh. What a nightmare. http://cityviewterracehouston.com/ This render is dated "5/20/2015" These are dated "5/8/2015" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Yep, they've pretty seriously uglified it. I think it will still be pretty good at the street level, although I'm concerned that they'll cheap out on materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Don't worry. It will be torn down for 45/59 redo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A lot less glass on the new rendering--reminds me of the change in design for the new trauma center by Memorial Hermann. It has a bit of the Lofts at the Ballpark vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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monarch Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 ^^^ just what the heck is going on here?? are we actually sure that this particular very high end development is taking place in this particular area? it just all seems very far-fetched to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 ugh why the cornices? Seriously...why the cornices? Thats just baffling EDIT: I'm just really confused by this whole development anyway. Why are they building on this plot of land if its in the way of the proposed realignment of 59/45??? Does anyone have any information or have contacted this development about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I've been skeptical of this project since the renderings first emerged - I don't think this group has pulled anything of this magnitude off before. With regards to the 59/45 re-alignment, I don't think any developer will stop working on their project due to a proposal. Until you get an offer from TXDOT in your hands, you can't really assume anything will happen. It could happen in 12 months, or 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It's not that much worse, I just can't understand why they'd build it in the path of a freeway. Does it remind anyone else of the Excalibur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Do we really know that the blocks to the east of Charters is to be removed for the realignment? I don't think that this is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Agree with Luminare...why the cornaces!? Looks like some low end Casino in Louisiana or Mississippi. All you need is a huge neon parrot or pot of gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Agree with Luminare...why the cornaces!? Looks like some low end Casino in Louisiana or Mississippi. All you need is a huge neon parrot or pot of gold. This is why Post-Modern sensibilities need to die a slow death. The contemporary look before was miles better than this! Oh yeah just throw some cornices up there because Post-Modern WE DO WHAT WE WANT! I personally blame the architects on this one. Its obvious that they had zero backbone in regards to their design/creation and left it to die as soon as it approached the client. Don't people know that those dumb cornices are a waste of money! They aren't even made of stone (well real stone). I've been skeptical of this project since the renderings first emerged - I don't think this group has pulled anything of this magnitude off before. With regards to the 59/45 re-alignment, I don't think any developer will stop working on their project due to a proposal. Until you get an offer from TXDOT in your hands, you can't really assume anything will happen. It could happen in 12 months, or 12 years. There was article I believe in the Chron? or some other publication mentioning TxDOT planning to sell off the land that would be under the Pierce Elevated. Its going to happen. Sure it probably won't get built in 5 years at the earliest, but you can bet that they are already buying land and further solidifying their plans. I'm sure they will still have public meetings to get more input, but its pretty much a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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