The Great Hizzy! Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Third Strike On Zoning In HoustonLet's have a good argument on this...Get ready...Get set...GO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Now this comment I definitely agree with (and noticed immediately when I moved here), though not necessarily with the voluntarily part:Under the Houston system, heavy industry voluntarily locates on large tracts near rail lines or highways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidtownCoog Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Sounds like what I have said before: There is obviously a strong market for homes in convenient urban settings. Anyone who wants zoning should take a drive through Plano for a reality check. That city has no soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Now this comment I definitely agree with (and noticed immediately when I moved here), though not necessarily with the voluntarily part:<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually, Hizzy, I think it is voluntary, but not necessarily because industry owners are nice. The article stated correctly, that these businesses want cheap land, and often more than an individual lot. Land near rail lines will be cheaper than in neighborhoods. The high price of residential land acts as a buffer to incompatible uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Great article. A good tool to back a no zoning stance.The more and more I live in Houston the more I like the lack of zoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Me, too. I remember the last zoning vote. I was for the ordinance then. I also lived in Ft Worth at the time, and had mostly lived in the suburbs prior to that.Now that I live in town, where I am supposed to be at so much risk of terrible things moving next door, I find that the dark warnings are largely unjustified, and that a little haphazardness in building patterns is a refreshing respite to the never ending sameness of a master planned neighborhood. I LIKE having a convenience store 2 blocks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Actually, Hizzy, I think it is voluntary, but not necessarily because industry owners are nice. Well that was what I actually meant, that they weren't doing it because they were concerned about maintaining the quality and character of residential neighborhoods. I was equating voluntary with charity, like Jerry Lewis on Labor Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeightsGuy Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I think one of the points made in the article is flawed. If I am not mistaken, country-wide real estate price trends are done on an "area" basis, not "city" basis, as in "real estate prices in the Houston area are lower than other parts of the country". Does anyone know of price trend models that are done on a "city" basis? If so, I'd like to see because I have always thought that homes inside Houston city limits are every bit as expensive as the national average. That said, even if Houston did the unimaginable and passed zoning, it doesn't mean Harris, Montomery and Ft Bend Counties would follow suit, meaning Houston "Area" prices would have been relatively the same with or without zoning. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 The Chronicle does yearly home surveys and in those surveys they show price per square foot for different neighborhoods in Houston and surrounding areas. www.har.com may also do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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