Avossos Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Honestly blown away. This is a Chelsea Market type meets highline type project. this could REALLY work as long as they are all in. Agree with SWstig on high rise component / hotel component. I hope they have a phase in approach that allows them to develop / grow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Avossos said: Honestly blown away. This is a Chelsea Market type meets highline type project. this could REALLY work as long as they are all in. Agree with SWstig on high rise component / hotel component. I hope they have a phase in approach that allows them to develop / grow. Edited October 4, 2017 by iah77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, iah77 said: There are several towers but it's for phase II. That's why there is so much space left on the right side of the site:D Cool. So, are you saying all of this shown in the renderings is Phase I? Edited October 4, 2017 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 13 hours ago, Montrose1100 said: the brochure is kinda cringey... foodie... techie... collaborative collective. I know it’s marketing but do they need every buzzy wordie? Unfortunately, designey folksies rarely have a solid grounding in how to be a good writer. Marketing peeps are in their own bubbly placie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post H-Town Man Posted October 4, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2017 On 10/3/2017 at 7:50 PM, CrockpotandGravel said: "Will you stop thinking about Houston's architecture and pay attention to me?" 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 It's too flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablog Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I love the flatness of phase 1 as it creates a lot of space for rooftop gardens, markets (like Chelsea market), and nice ventilated space in the humidity of Houston. Also, it Represents the topography of the city well. But I am also looking forward to phase 2, when the towers come in. It would be awesome to see the different dimensions of height and flatness come together. It is very Houston like! Excited for this project 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 3 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said: Yes, it's phase one. I copied the text from the unpublished finished website that read the first phase is coming in 2018. It may not have been clear. Sorry. I don't know if that means work will begin in 2018 or a portion of the first phase will open by then. I do know while the first phase is under construction, Lovett will continue to rent out undeveloped space there like they've been doing for the last year. 2018? Wow, that's aggressive. Here's to hoping it comes that soon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, Triton said: 2018? Wow, that's aggressive. Here's to hoping it comes that soon. I don't think it's that aggressive. I mean it would be aggressive if the main building still needed to be built. The bones are there, it's just a matter of some basic redesign. I definitely see this happening. Based on all the trends and cohesive development popping up around the city, this doesn't seem unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooljunkie Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'd like to see a rendering of this with the bayou flooded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, skooljunkie said: I'd like to see a rendering of this with the bayou flooded. I was thinking the same thing. For this to be a serious proposal, there would HAVE to be some type of contingency plan in the design phase that considers flooding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post H-Town Man Posted October 5, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) If it didn't flood in Harvey (did it?) it's a moot point. As it turns out, it did not flood during Harvey. All the naysayers on Swamplot will be disappointed, I'm afraid. Edited October 5, 2017 by H-Town Man 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 (edited) - Edited July 11, 2019 by Timoric 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooljunkie Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Yup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, skooljunkie said: Yup. Does not appear to have reached first floor level, unless this does not represent the peak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Per a Lovett Commercial request, the info and renderings have been removed from public viewing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Triton said: Per a Lovett Commercial request, the info and renderings have been removed from public viewing. Did they agree to give HAIF final design approval as part of the rendering removal negotiations???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 20 minutes ago, Triton said: Per a Lovett Commercial request, the info and renderings have been removed from public viewing. Why? They're still available on swamplot. If they're public, they're public. http://swamplot.com/rem-koolhaas-and-omas-big-plans-to-remake-houstons-central-post-office-into-a-major-downtown-farming-shopping-eating-and-3-d-printing-hub/2017-10-04/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Triton said: Per a Lovett Commercial request, the info and renderings have been removed from public viewing. Why? They're still available on swamplot. If they're public, they're public. http://swamplot.com/rem-koolhaas-and-omas-big-plans-to-remake-houstons-central-post-office-into-a-major-downtown-farming-shopping-eating-and-3-d-printing-hub/2017-10-04/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, downtownian said: Why? They're still available on swamplot. If they're public, they're public. http://swamplot.com/rem-koolhaas-and-omas-big-plans-to-remake-houstons-central-post-office-into-a-major-downtown-farming-shopping-eating-and-3-d-printing-hub/2017-10-04/ Did you actually go through that post? Swamplot removed them as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Maybe they saw how we hammered Midway relentlessly for replacing a great design for the Hotel Alessandra with something run-of-the-mill and don't want to get similar treatment when they downgrade this one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 If I were them I would raise the ground level on this lot by at least 3 feet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Obviously the guy doesn't understand the internet. Once something is posted on the internet. Its on there forever. Want to get it off? Good Luck....with that. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 On 10/5/2017 at 11:56 AM, skooljunkie said: Yup. On 10/5/2017 at 0:22 PM, H-Town Man said: Does not appear to have reached first floor level, unless this does not represent the peak. Not quite sure, but that looks pretty close to peak based on what I've been told by Market Square area folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 This is really exciting, stuffy internet-policing notwithstanding. Fine work on this Crockpot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) This project along with the KBR site, the redevelopment of Caninos famers market, and Hardy Yards is going to really push Houston as a destination city. It's amazing just how neglected Houston was for so long. Edited October 8, 2017 by j_cuevas713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 After further conversation with Lovett Commercial and working together with Swamplot, we have removed the renderings but have allowed the posts to remain public here and the article will remain on Swamplot as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I can see why they asked to have it removed. there was one picture of a woman in a bathrobe, and a man in a dress shirt. the second to last episode of game of thrones was on the TV. Obviously, they wanted to be considerate to anyone that hadn't already seen that episode. 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, samagon said: I can see why they asked to have it removed. there was one picture of a woman in a bathrobe, and a man in a dress shirt. the second to last episode of game of thrones was on the TV. Obviously, they wanted to be considerate to anyone that hadn't already seen that episode. Yes, you found the true reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenOlenska Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Washington to Hempstead makes sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 It seems a little unlikely such a light rail line would run in front of Post HTX, unless by "in front of" they mean 4 blocks south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 They might mean a new line, as opposed to an extension of the purple/green lines 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, cspwal said: They might mean a new line, as opposed to an extension of the purple/green lines Yes, I considered that. But, the plan all along for western extension of light rail has been for it to be an extension of the purple or green line, and that seems like the obvious best choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 3:13 PM, Houston19514 said: But, the plan all along for western extension of light rail has been for it to be an extension of the purple or green line.... I think you may be confusing metro's master plan with discussions in the transportation sub forum about how to continue building the system. Can you provide a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Yeah, I had never heard anything about extending the purple or green lines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) http://www.metronext.org/pdfs/metro_solutions_map.pdf Edited November 2, 2017 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 What are we to make of David Crossley's recent pronouncement that there almost certainly will not be any more light rail built in Houston? Of course he is not exactly an authority, but he is also the last person to give up on something like this if it had a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 On 10/31/2017 at 10:38 AM, EllenOlenska said: Washington to Hempstead makes sense. Oh hell no. That's one of the stupidest ideas ever. It would ruin Washington as a route to downtown from the West. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Well, no, it would increase its capacity substantially. It would make it harder for people in cars to speed down Washington to get Downtown, but that seems like a good thing to me. You people have I-10, Memorial, AND Allen Parkway. You're fine. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenOlenska Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 People use Washington as a go-to car route to downtown? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 6 hours ago, EllenOlenska said: People use Washington as a go-to car route to downtown? That's my main route from the Greater Heights area to downtown. It 14 hours ago, Texasota said: Well, no, it would increase its capacity substantially. It would make it harder for people in cars to speed down Washington to get Downtown, but that seems like a good thing to me. You people have I-10, Memorial, AND Allen Parkway. You're fine. Rail might be good for the 400 people who live along Washington, but without parking bearby, rail is useless for the rest of us. I use Washington all the time to get to Downtown and to businesses along the way. Rail would make it far more difficult to do that, as well as making safe turns nearly impossible. Memorial and Allen Parkway are frequently closed for one event or another, so they aren't always available. 6 hours ago, EllenOlenska said: People use Washington as a go-to car route to downtown? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 There are 400 unit apartment complexes along Washington, yes. The amount of new apartments/townhomes and development within a 6 block walking distance of Washington is a fair amount of people, specifically young people that would use this transit. I think it would be very successful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 How can you say he is not an authority. He has spent many years working on rail related projects and has worked with many highly enlightened authorities in transportation and urban matters. He has devoted his life to making Houston a better place for all of us and he definitely has researched this issue as much as anyone around. I had the opportunity to work with him on the Richmond Rail line and found him educated on all of the issues, and connected to all of the transportation experts and knew his stuff. I recently attended a Houston Tomorrow talk where transportation was the discussion., and it was a topic that came up. If he has come to the conclusion that we will not see any more rail in the near future he has good reasons to say that. I don't think he is giving up on it completely but as long as John Culbertson is in office it is dead on arrival. As for the Washington corridor to Hempstead. I think that would be great. Only connect it to the bus hub at old Katy, for connectivity to the rest of the lines, where the Post Oak Metro redevelopment in Uptown is now being built. This would allow people who live and work in either downtown or Uptown a way to get to the other on a mass transit system. Washington Ave. corridor is a densely populated area and the younger developing demographics will support rail. It would be a great way for people to get to a game or just about anywhere the rails now run and that includes just about every major destination in Houston. There are plenty of routes into downtown that could be used to get from the Heights avoiding Washington that connect to Houston Avenue. I prefer to favor a more useful mass transit use for this corridor. Maybe not for some of our lifetimes, but for Houston of the future which is something some don't seem to have the ability to see or care or think about. This city is going to continue to get denser and it will be a great alternative to sitting in cars stuck in traffic jams burning hydrocarbons. 21 hours ago, H-Town Man said: What are we to make of David Crossley's recent pronouncement that there almost certainly will not be any more light rail built in Houston? Of course he is not exactly an authority, but he is also the last person to give up on something like this if it had a chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 30 minutes ago, bobruss said: How can you say he is not an authority. He has spent many years working on rail related projects and has worked with many highly enlightened authorities in transportation and urban matters. He has devoted his life to making Houston a better place for all of us and he definitely has researched this issue as much as anyone around. I had the opportunity to work with him on the Richmond Rail line and found him educated on all of the issues, and connected to all of the transportation experts and knew his stuff. I recently attended a Houston Tomorrow talk where transportation was the discussion., and it was a topic that came up. If he has come to the conclusion that we will not see any more rail in the near future he has good reasons to say that. I don't think he is giving up on it completely but as long as John Culbertson is in office it is dead on arrival. Ummm, I didn't say he wasn't intelligent, but he is not a public official with control over Metro and hence not in an authoritative position to say that rail will never be built. But the fact that I referenced him suggests that I think he must have "good reasons to say that" and that his opinion is worth our attention. If this is going to turn into another impassioned, emotional argument on transportation modes, let's take it to the Transportation board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 On 11/3/2017 at 9:24 AM, Ross said: Rail might be good for the 400 people who live along Washington, but without parking bearby, rail is useless for the rest of us. I use Washington all the time to get to Downtown and to businesses along the way. Rail would make it far more difficult to do that, as well as making safe turns nearly impossible. 24 eleven Washington Courtyard Memorial Heights @ Washington The Core Elan Memorial Memorial Club Those are all apartment complexes that frontage on Washington. There are at least twice as many apartments within 1/4 mile of Washington. Add in all the townhomes. It would stop at the NW transit center, so add all those. It's a few more than just 400 people. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) This is way off topic but isn't 400 the number of people that fit into Astor's ballroom? I'm no mobility expert but surely a rail line in Houston could out do that. Edited November 6, 2017 by Twinsanity02 error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 That 400 was figurative, not literal. Jeez... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenOlenska Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I guess, then, Washington would be only figuratively ruined, but literally the Washington rail-route would be a boon for the city? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 4 hours ago, EllenOlenska said: I guess, then, Washington would be only figuratively ruined, but literally the Washington rail-route would be a boon for the city? No, it would be literally ruined. Much like Fulton is now useless as a North/South route because rail makes turns impossible for most streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Have we ever even tried to pass a grade separated rail plan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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