houstontexasjack Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 He said market concept, as in like a farmers market. Followed by a grocer..Everything sounds fantastic actually.. So long as you're not expecting a bunch of grand towers then you shouldn't be let down. Anything is better than what the post office site currently is doing to interact with downtown.Ah. Thanks for clarifying. This is what happens when I post before having my morning coffee. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 "Interesting" doesn't necessarily translate to unanimous decision to me. I'm thinking this design will be controversial here, or many folks may be let down. Then again I'm probably reading too much into it hahahahah The only way to get a unanimous decision on HAIF would be planning a 3 story stucco parking garage to replace a park. Other than that no one on here agrees on anything.  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 To say that this forum will be disappointed sounds scary, since typically even when someone says we'll like it, it's often a crapshoot!  If people were disappointed with the nice glass tower that was Amegy's new headquarters, can't imagine how people will feel when there isn't a sea of highrises here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 all i could read were the words "game changer" and think about how some people hate that term on here haha! i cant believe no one has posted about that yet    2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Improving access to the bayou would be a big plus. I do not understand the phrase "market grocer." Does this refer to a mainline grocer such as HEB, Kroger, or Randall's? Or is there another type that Lovett is looking at? If I had money to bet with, I'd bet Trader Joe's is what goes in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curbur Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 More than anything I hope it brings people, not just Audis. Â You got a problem with my Audi? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 You got a problem with my Audi? Meant to refer to the tendency of most new construction to cater to a luxurious lifestyle, and to have Audis in the renderings. With adaptive reuse you have the opportunity to involve a less well-heeled customer, since rents aren't so high. New construction necessitates high rents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curbur Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Meant to refer to the tendency of most new construction to cater to a luxurious lifestyle, and to have Audis in the renderings. With adaptive reuse you have the opportunity to involve a less well-heeled customer, since rents aren't so high. New construction necessitates high rents. Well aware, I was just kidding. There does seem to be a stock photo of an audi inserted into almost every rendering on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 You got a problem with my Audi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 You got a problem with my Audi?  Stylish, fun, full of features and accordingly expensive, but more expensive than you thought it was going to be in the long run.  Sounds like a pretty good analog for upscale high-rise real estate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mab Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The name of this development will be Central Post  http://www.colvilloffice.com/houston_portfolio.php# 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 The name of this development will be Central Post  http://www.colvilloffice.com/houston_portfolio.php# Good catch. What is the Park Place listed as in the "inner loop"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Good catch. What is the Park Place listed as in the "inner loop"? Park Place at Buffalo Bayou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Park Place at Buffalo Bayou Thanks. Haven't been keeping up with HAIF lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arisegundo Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The east side of the lot has been turned into no doubt lucrative paid parking for now. The bayou thread has me sad that there doesn't appear to be any will to ever remove the Franklin section that overhangs the bayou's north bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted March 10, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2016 Looks like Midway will redevelop the site after all.  Quote We closed 2015 by forging a new joint venture which brings lasting and farranging ripple effects, including stewardship of an extraordinary mixed-use environment on Houston’s historic riverfront. The market-defining project requires us to carefully and thoughtfully curate an exceptional mix of uses, enlivening the property while it evolves over time. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, Urbannizer said: Looks like Midway will redevelop the site after all. Â I like the phrasing. "Houston historic riverfront" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdotwill84 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 This is good news right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) - Edited July 10, 2019 by Timoric add 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 I believe that this is fantastic news. Â Midway was very interested in the property before but costs looked rough. Â Partnership must have reduced the risk. Â From what I understand, they have pretty grand plans here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 "Historic riverfront" is odd phrasing, but it leads me to think they are looking at taking advantage of the bayou location. Â Perhaps I'm reading too much into it.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 IMO, the most critical part of this development will be its pedestrian connectivity to downtown. Â They are going to need to figure out how to make it fit seamlessly into downtown and crossing a busy 2 way street to do it will be the challenge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Except it's not really all that busy, it's just absurdly wide. I wonder if they could convince the city to put Franklin on a diet. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Yeah the westbound right lane really just serves as a metro parking space a lot of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 10 hours ago, Texasota said: Except it's not really all that busy, it's just absurdly wide. I wonder if they could convince the city to put Franklin on a diet. True. Â The issue becomes that if a lot of commercial development occurs here and that development draws lots of cars (city center-esque) then there will be a lot more traffic on that wide road. Â I am sure that bright designers will figure it out...... I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJxvi Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) I would not be surprised if Franklin went away.  Seems like the way to best integrate the site with everything is to get rid of the Franklin that exists now and run Washington Ave through the site to connect back up with Franklin at Lousiana/Smith intersection.  It would add commercial frontage to the development since they would have frontage on both sides of a Washington Ave ROW as opposed to only the north side of Franklin.  I would imagine that if Washington Ave could provide the same level of access as Franklin currently does, the city would be pleased to open Buffalo Bayou park and the pedestrian paths in that area up to the open sky, and those same paths could then be linked in with the post office site. Edited March 11, 2016 by JJxvi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Right now Washington dead ends at a pedestrian tunnel under 45, but it certainly seems like it should be possible to re-establish its ROW there. Either way the site is much too large not to have an additional e-w street through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 19 minutes ago, Texasota said: Right now Washington dead ends at a pedestrian tunnel under 45, but it certainly seems like it should be possible to re-establish its ROW there. Either way the site is much too large not to have an additional e-w street through it. From the looks of it, the Washington segment was closed because the clearance of the HOV lane is too low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discography 114 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 The old downtown post office site? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunstar Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 So if this is the old post office site, and this is the developer, I'm assuming we'll see this turned into a City Centre type of development? Some residential and commercial,with structures ranging 4-10 stories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 either post office or their jv w/ lionstone on lionstone's office at 100 waugh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 What is the Lionstone/Midway JV at 100 Waugh? Not sure I've heard anything about that one.  All things considered, I think this is pretty clearly for the post office site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: What is the Lionstone/Midway JV at 100 Waugh? Not sure I've heard anything about that one.    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 KBR is on the Northbank of Buffalo Bayou.  A boy can dream.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On 3/9/2016 at 0:11 PM, Urbannizer said: Looks like Midway will redevelop the site after all. Â Â So Midway is not working with Lovett on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I guess not now but I wonder who they are doing a JV with on the KBR site, Lionstone Investments? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 What do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 @BigFootsSocks Midway's annual report for 2015 alludes to a joint venture on the Bayou, therefore I thought it was the post office site. Lionstone Investments is currently working with Midway on a number a projects so they may be working together on the KBR site as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 It's possible Midway is doing both. The 2015 annual report discussion may very well refer to the post office site. It seems the purchase of the KBR property likely occurred after the annual report went to print. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I'm gonna guess Northbank Buffalo Bayou is the Post Office site and the East End site is something else. Â http://swamplot.com/midway-our-giant-fifth-ward-site-wont-be-called-northbank-buffalo-bayou-but-something-else-might/2016-07-07/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Post Office site has a different name - something with Post in it... The Name "Northbank" is in reference to the corner of Waugh and the bayou. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Mind. Blown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 But, as someone who has had to live in Dallas a few years, doesn't it sound a bit too much like Northpark? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Avossos said: Post Office site has a different name - something with Post in it... The Name "Northbank" is in reference to the corner of Waugh and the bayou.  Central Post IIRC - not too late for a name change though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 On 7/6/2016 at 11:26 AM, Houston19514 said: It's possible Midway is doing both. The 2015 annual report discussion may very well refer to the post office site. It seems the purchase of the KBR property likely occurred after the annual report went to print. That's the most likely scenario. The report came out in March while the KBR site was purchased in May. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I would agree that it sure sounds like the Post Office site is soon to be marketed as Northbank. I have no problem with the name Northbank. It actually defines the area very well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) - Edited July 10, 2019 by Timoric 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ew2003 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 According to an article about Day for Night posted by Paper City today, the post office site will be called Central Post. Â Â http://www.papercitymag.com/culture/day-for-night/ Â So, back to the hunt for where the Northbank project will be! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, ew2003 said: According to an article about Day for Night posted by Paper City today, the post office site will be called Central Post. Â Â http://www.papercitymag.com/culture/day-for-night/ Â So, back to the hunt for where the Northbank project will be! It has previously gone by Central Post before. We are not sure whether the name has changed or not. I believe that article is going off of older information. If you go to the comments section of this article, you can see where Central Post was originally mentioned:Â http://swamplot.com/midway-our-giant-fifth-ward-site-wont-be-called-northbank-buffalo-bayou-but-something-else-might/2016-07-07/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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