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That’s awful. I was just about to post the article but I got ninja’d. 
 

I wonder what happened? We were just there on 2/18, and the staff was telling us that they were about to start doing their steaks all day. (Previously they only served them after 4pm) No indication whatsoever that they were about to close up shop, either. I wonder if they had a dispute with POST about their hours or something?
 

I really do hope they relocate somewhere else nearby. 

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9 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

It def wasn't lacking in business, so it does sound like POST ownership wanted to go in a new direction for the spot. 

That has to be it. There was zero indication that this was happening- apparently it took the staff by surprise. The sous chef had a bunch of preps up for grabs on an Instagram post, so this was extremely sudden. You wouldn’t make prep and print menus if you knew you were fixing to close for good. Just crazy!

 

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If hindesky’s posting on the previous page was for the buildout of common desk, then they ought to be finishing up in late July. Not sure what that’ll mean for an actual opening date though! Their site does not currently say when. 

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After thinking about this for a minute, was everything a local concept other than these two places? If so, then maybe that’s what POST wants. It just seems weird how both Salt & Time and The Butchers Burger are both Austin based places that closed. 

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7 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

After thinking about this for a minute, was everything a local concept other than these two places? If so, then maybe that’s what POST wants. It just seems weird how both Salt & Time and The Butchers Burger are both Austin based places that closed. 

 

7 hours ago, jmitch94 said:

East Side King and Thai Kun are both from Austin too. In fact I think a large portion are not local. 

 

Kirby Liu of Lovett Commercial recruited Paul Qui as the consulting operator for Post Market. So, it's not surprising that a number of dining concepts from his Austin-based FAM Hospitality Group are part of the food hall's roster:

• Lea Jane's

•Soy Pinoy

• Thai Kun 

• East Side King 

 

With the exceptions of Golfstrommen, Salt & Time, the Butcher's Burger, Roberta's, Hawker, Whisk, and G'Raj Mahal (which are mostly concepts from the DFW and Austin areas), the rest are locally owned.

It's disappointing Salt & Time and the Butcher's Burger are no longer options at Post Market. I'm more disappointed I didn't have the opportunity to visit their Houston outposts. 

I'm sure Lovett Commercial and Post Market's operators will find tenants to fill those vacant spots soon. Hopefully whichever concepts are greenlighted are also local.

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We went to lunch  on Tuesday. It was not that busy. I spent 15 years in the restaurant business, and I felt uncomfortable for several of the vendors. I would be real concerned about Golfstrommen also. I didn't see one customer there the whole time we were there. Restaurants depend on a steady flow of customers and for specialty vendors like Salt and Time and Golfstrommen that feature delicate product its hard to maintain a good product when your business is so spotty. Your dealing with food and seafood in particular has a short shelf life to maintain its quality. It gets harder to keep fresh inventory and big crowds on weekends and slow weekdays don't help. You also have to maintain a staff and its hard to operate a space like these without consistent volume. I asked several of the workers in different spaces and they all seemed a little concerned. I was not that impressed with the turnout. They should have built some apartments around the site first and created a captive audience. Right now they are dependent on a drive up market that is not even downtown right now. It still looks like a ghost town. I hope they make it but I don't feel real positive about it. Lets face this has has been a terrible 2 years for the restaurant and bar industry with the pandemic, and putting yourself on an island doesn't help.

I will say that my old boss Johnny Carrabba, used to say it didn't matter where you were located if the food was good and the atmosphere was inviting. Of course he didn't pick a very challenging location in the heart of River Oaks West U. on the Upper Kirby corridor.

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I'm not sure what the current data shows in terms of how busy it get's at different times but that's why I asked about Common Desk. They need one of those tenants to hurry the hell up and build out their spots. I've also said this before, even the Ferry Building in SF and other concepts I've visited that are similar all have dead days. I can't lie though, I'm a little worried overall about this project. I went on a Sunday and it was very busy. I'm sure Fri/Sat are their best days overall, but idk because I've never been mid week. 

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11 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

After thinking about this for a minute, was everything a local concept other than these two places? If so, then maybe that’s what POST wants. It just seems weird how both Salt & Time and The Butchers Burger are both Austin based places that closed. 

Salt & Time and The Butchers Burger are the same company.

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Here are the peak hours for the Ferry Building in SF. And that is smack in the middle of downtown SF in a very touristy spot. So I wouldn't worry too much about foot traffic during the week for POST. The WED image is the average traffic M-F at the Ferry Building. Saturday is the most busy day and Sunday tapers off pretty drastic as well. When compared to POST, Mon-Thurs they have the least amount of traffic, but Friday-Sun POST is very busy pretty much all hours of operation. 

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^^^ what an ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS statement of solidarity!  i have seen many many tributes from around the globe supporting the country of ukraine and it's wonderful citizens.  however, this POST HTX tribute is one of the most beautiful.  props @hindesky for posting.  this has indeed made my day...

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It was super fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but omg my friend got suuuUuUUuuUUuuUuuper drunk on all the free samples of liquor...let's put it this way, he doesn't remember leaving while screaming to the Amazon driver leaving Post that he loves Amazon and then trying to do parkour (very poorly) until we got to my jeep...

thankfully i got it all on video 🤪haha!

so fun though to see this place buzzing and alive...dang it's such a cool place and wish they would just do these markets in the parking lot on the regular! 

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24 minutes ago, gene said:

It was super fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but omg my friend got suuuUuUUuuUUuuUuuper drunk on all the free samples of liquor...let's put it this way, he doesn't remember leaving while screaming to the Amazon driver leaving Post that he loves Amazon and then trying to do parkour (very poorly) until we got to my jeep...

thankfully i got it all on video 🤪haha!

so fun though to see this place buzzing and alive...dang it's such a cool place and wish they would just do these markets in the parking lot on the regular! 

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OMG 😂 I sent this to him immediately! haha! 

i will say we (especially he) made friends with almost everyone working there! apparently free alcohol to him means new awesome friend ha! 

it really was a blast!!! 

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Oh yay! I saw they appeared to be getting ready over the weekend- couldn’t exactly tell what they were up to! 
 

Exciting! I’ll have to give them a try next time I’m there!

 

(if I don’t end up just going to chop n blok again lol!!!)

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7 hours ago, samagon said:

not to encourage drinking to excess, but if you regret drinking too much on the same day, you're not drinking enough. :lol:

...unless of course, it is to regret not having drank more.

I figure if you can remember drinking the next day, you didn't really get that drunk.

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On 2/22/2022 at 10:03 PM, freundb said:

 

As reported several weeks ago, Johnny Good Burgers, a concept from FAM Hospitality, is *temporarily filling in (could be permanent) the space previously home to The Butcher's Burger at 401 Franklin St. 

 

https://www.papercitymag.com/restaurants/johnny-good-burger-post-market-food-hall-paul-qui/

 

https://johnnygoodburger.com

https://www.instagram.com/johnnygoodburger

 

FAM Hospitality is introducing another new restaurant concept to Post Market in the coming weeks. A hiring post indicates Pasta Shop is opening in the food hall soon. 

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Went for yoga one day and then their flea market on another with the kid and family over the last three weeks and I don't think there should be any handwringing about their ability to succeed. You had people looking at the art exhibit, the food hall was nutty, they were just absolutely packed by 11:45am, and yoga was ridiculously packed.

They clearly have a long way to go to fill in the empty storefronts with things like maybe grocers and butchers or some indoor axe throwing thing or some indoor kids play business, but they are attracting a ton of people on the weekends. I say they need to add that because I think there needs to be some complimentary "things to do" once you eat and hang out for a while on the roof. An adult attraction and a kids attraction would serve well, there were clearly parents who wanted to stay but the kids were antsy and there were adults without kids who wanted to continue the vibe and were kinda done with the roof but there wasn't an activity based business to keep them there. I can see why certain food stores might not work, but even Golfstromen (which was great, but its much more expensive than some of the other restaurants) was busy on both weekends. Stunning, tbh, and a lot of fun.

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they definitely need to make more use of the rooftop garden...add a bar and refreshment stand and then have more live music regularly at the little kooky stage they have up on the north east side of the roof! 

ps: we got pizza in da house!

https://houston.eater.com/2022/3/31/23003622/robertas-new-restaurant-houston-texas-pizzeria-open-bushwick-brooklyn-new-york

A “Lil’ Stinker” pie with a side of chili oil and a beer.

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1 hour ago, gene said:

they definitely need to make more use of the rooftop garden...add a bar and refreshment stand and then have more live music regularly at the little kooky stage they have up on the north east side of the roof! 

I was there last weekend and there were, ice cream, regular drinks, and a bar set up on the rooftop, though they seemed more like temporary things, not permanent shops. Maybe they are moving towards your suggestion because there was live music (well, a DJ, but close enough) there as well. 

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7 hours ago, gene said:

they definitely need to make more use of the rooftop garden...add a bar and refreshment stand and then have more live music regularly at the little kooky stage they have up on the north east side of the roof! 

ps: we got pizza in da house!

https://houston.eater.com/2022/3/31/23003622/robertas-new-restaurant-houston-texas-pizzeria-open-bushwick-brooklyn-new-york

A “Lil’ Stinker” pie with a side of chili oil and a beer.

Is that an orange jello shot?

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