j_cuevas713 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Wth is an opening day release video? Has there been any work on the building? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Development seems to be doing a little too much talkin and not enough diggin. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 This single property may well be the most impactful development in downtown after Discovery Green as it could combine traditional retail, residential, entertainment, and commercial in ways that seamlessly connect pedestrians to the Water, trails, rail, and to Downtown. i am exceedingly hopeful that we don’t get Greenstreet version 2. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 2 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said: This single property may well be the most impactful development in downtown after Discovery Green as it could combine traditional retail, residential, entertainment, and commercial in ways that seamlessly connect pedestrians to the Water, trails, rail, and to Downtown. i am exceedingly hopeful that we don’t get Greenstreet version 2. I'm just hoping something even happens. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 this development is even more of a tease than my previous girlfriend....and thats a high bar by the way. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) It's chugging along, entertainment is so far what's been subscribed to the most in terms of what's been taken. I know the F/B component is progressing as well. Edited January 18, 2019 by iah77 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, iah77 said: It's chugging along, entertainment is so far what's been subscribed to the most in terms of what's been taken. I know the F/B component is progressing as well. Any info on when some of this will be made public? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 This project is so strange to me. I have no idea what the developer is actually striving for. I worry that this project will be underwhelming when complete. A missed opportunity, if you will. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Timoric said: How long has this thing been in the first phases of development? Feels like most of the almost ended decade The "first phases of development" sounds very euphemistic, as in, somewhere between "the last tenant is packing to move out" and "we're working on the final draft to pitch to investors". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intencity77 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Hate to say I told y’all so but Lovett was the wrong developer for this project. Hell, Midway had a later start on East River and it’s already starting to make more headway than Lovett is on this project. Sad. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablog Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 18 hours ago, MarathonMan said: This project is so strange to me. I have no idea what the developer is actually striving for. I worry that this project will be underwhelming when complete. A missed opportunity, if you will. Lovett is working with similar companies that Midway is with East River. I have hopes that this will be a great development because this project will be a statement from Lovett if they do it to right. They need this to be a success as it is a huge gamble for them, which could be the driving force for something amazing. It could also be the reason why they’re taking so long, because they want to make sure they’re doing it right. I won’t judge until the plans come to life. Did not mean to quote you, Marathon Man. My post was intended in general for the conversation. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, pablog said: Lovett is working with similar companies that Midway is with East River. I have hopes that this will be a great development because this project will be a statement from Lovett if they do it to right. They need this to be a success as it is a huge gamble for them, which could be the driving force for something amazing. It could also be the reason why they’re taking so long, because they want to make sure they’re doing it right. I won’t judge until the plans come to life. Did not mean to quote you, Marathon Man. My post was intended in general for the conversation. I appreciate your perspective. And I hope you’re right. This parcel is a very strategic gateway to downtown from the Washington corridor. Fingers crossed! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablog Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, MarathonMan said: I appreciate your perspective. And I hope you’re right. This parcel is a very strategic gateway to downtown from the Washington corridor. Fingers crossed! I agree, and I think a company of that size understands the importance of this site as well. Fingers crossed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Is it accessible by rail? Could a line but put there easily? Texas Bullet train end stop be good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 It used to be the Southern Pacific station, and two active tracks and a platform remain that are serviced by the Amtrak Shack on the other side of 45. It was looked at as one of the possible locations for the Houston terminus of the TCR train, but was ruled out after the environmental impact report by the FRA. One of the issues would be extensive modifications of different historic sites between 610 and downtown on the UP line that runs through the heights (south of 10) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Timoric said: Is it accessible by rail? Could a line but put there easily? Texas Bullet train end stop be good? If by accessible you mean the Red Line (which is on Main Street, about 3 blocks to the East), then technically yes, it just would not be a direct light rail connection. And as for the Bullet Train, unless things have changed, I believe they are still planning on using the NW Mall site (just outside of the 610 loop near 290). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedistrict84 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 22 hours ago, intencity77 said: Hate to say I told y’all so but Lovett was the wrong developer for this project. Hell, Midway had a later start on East River and it’s already starting to make more headway than Lovett is on this project. Sad. Several Lovett projects around town are currently stalled, with few signs of progress: Houston Post building at Polk/Emancipation, Fingers Furniture redevelopment at I-45 and Cullen (Coogs Crossing I think?), this project, etc. I wonder if they’ve taken on too many projects all at once and overextended themselves (financially or otherwise)?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 you know this project has nothing going on when we revert back to the whole rail topic... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Well a big delay in the project was getting the historic tax credits approved while allowing modifications such as skylights punched in the roof... There are a few tenants signed up already. The fingers furniture site (or can't remember if Macy's site) I don't believe isn't being developed but they are putting some pad sites in front (Fast Food/Commercial Tenants). They aren't in a rush and have recently acquired acquired some other big lots recently. They function in a long term land bank strategy. They own so many lots of Harrisburg for example, was there a rush to put in Baker Ripley or the CVS? It's not even 1/5th developed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Based on Lovett’s development experience, I’d say they’re a JV team trying to play in a Varsity league, and they’re sputtering. Post HTX is more than a strip mall, neighborhood warehouse revamp, or suburban Walmart shopping center. It is a16+ acre piece of real estate in downtown Houston. A very rare thing. Their portfolio would suggest the scope of work far beneath what that sight deserves. I’m not expecting a $20 billion development anchored by a mega-sculpture like NYC’s Hudson Yards (which is 26-28 acres, btw), but I’d wish for something more than a few skylights, a roof garden, a fresh coat of paint and some pretty landscaping on and around an obsolete post office building. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intencity77 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 hours ago, iah77 said: They aren't in a rush and have recently acquired acquired some other big lots recently. They function in a long term land bank strategy. They own so many lots of Harrisburg for example, was there a rush to put in Baker Ripley or the CVS? It's not even 1/5th developed. That’s part of my reasoning. I lived across the Harrisburg/Lockwood lot for nine years. According to HCAD, they’ve owned it since 2007. In 12 years all that’s been developed on that lot is a CVS and recently the Baker Ripley campus. Even so, 2/3’s of it still remains undeveloped today and derelict like many of the numerous properties they sit on for years and years. Mind you this is light rail fronting property. My other reasoning was their inexperience in large scale, high density, urban projects, which is the most blantantly obvious choice of redevelopment for the downtown Post Office site. They have no proven track record in this kind of large scale urban redevelopment. Only townhomes, suburban retail strips and small urban strips like Sawyer Yards. All of which at least to me would be inappropriate for the Post Office site. These are the two reasons that have made me doubt this project from beginning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_787 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 They will need to partner with someone who has an inkling of what they're doing for this project to really succeed, as it is evident they do not. I think the best we can really hope for is another Bayou Place style development. And that stinks for the location, particularly given the quality developments around town that have sprouted over the past ~10 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 The thing is, the people who know what they're doing had a chance to bid on it and for some reason they didn't, or else didn't bid as much. There may be issues with the building and/or site that we don't know about. I am not terribly worried, the worst that happens is that it sits there while downtown gets better and better development becomes feasible there, and then someone makes them the right offer. It might be better if this doesn't get developed until after the I-45 rebuild happens. Lots of other ways to improve downtown until then. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CrockpotandGravel said: Maybe more details and finally official renderings of Post HTX or Post Houston at 401 Franklin may be on the way. Their Instagram page posted half of the development's name in a grid layout. Well, more like their torturing us with a post once a week until the name is spelled out. The website is still asking for photos. Who know? Lovett Commercial may surprise us with an update very soon. But if they're posting a teaser once a week, I doubt we'll hear anything until after the 4th of July holiday. ...so is this the Fyre Festival of developments? Edited May 23, 2019 by Luminare 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, CrockpotandGravel said: Here are a few updated images and renderings of Post Houston ( or Post , Post HTX ). This is the readaptive use of the old Barbara Jordan US Post Office in downtown Houston at 401 Franklin. The project is from Lovett Commercial ( Frank Liu and Kirby Liu ) , possibly designed by Rem Koolhaas' Office for Metropolitan Architecture ( OMA ) . These are all from screenshots from a recent video spotlighting Kirby Liu of Lovett Commercial. These may or may not be updated renderings. It's possible, these could be older, but the video these screenshots were taken from is recent. The video was uploaded this month. A site model of Post Houston ( or Post , Post HTX ). This is considerably less ambitious than earlier renderings. Some skylights and grass on the roof, but no new footprint, and no engagement with the bayou. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Angostura said: This is considerably less ambitious than earlier renderings. Some skylights and grass on the roof, but no new footprint, and no engagement with the bayou. This is literally just phase one and there's no engagement with the bayou because the city nor DT TIRZ were being cooperative in making it happen. For some reason Turner is putting all his eggs with Midway... and by for some reason I mean $. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Underwhelming to say the least. I can echo the sentiments of everyone else. Although if this is a multi-phase project, then there is definitely hope for increased Bayou interaction and development on those surface level lots. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 24, 2019 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Don't we have Kirby Liu on this forum? I'd like to hear his take from the earlier renderings we saw to what is now presented. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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