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Thanks, I saw where this was reported earlier, just not sure what they've planned. As someone mentioned before, $2.9 million won't buy much.

Triton posted it. "$2,900,000.00 remodel of the parking garage. Construction permit pulled in Feb 24, 2015.".

 

It won't buy much... Anyone seen concepts yet?

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Got to take a hardhat tour of the site yesterday. Still a lot of work to be done. They're shooting for an October 26th grand opening, with about the first 15 or 16 floors complete at that time. The 39

That's a great shot.  And to give an idea of how much things have changed from this angle recently, below I have attempted to highlight everything that's new in the last 15 years:

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Look how close the cement robot arm dispenser thingey (blue and white) is to the crane.  They are going to need to jump that again, or this thing is about to top-out.

 

It is a placing boom. It gets jumped every 5-8 floors in my experience. Depends on the job. 

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Yikes.

This boom 2010-2016 Houston builds 27 million square feet of beige resi and plain glass boxes with a few notable exceptions.

Some recent pics of NYC show me that cities are starting to resemble futuristic sci-fi cities but not Houston yet.

If you squint at 2929 Weslayan or catch a glimpse it looks futuristic.
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are there balconies back there? its hard to tell from the picture. we've seen the windows back there. it does seem kind of odd but i guess natural light with no views is better than artificial light? i would hope they don't lease those out as units, and use the rear lower floors as mechanical and common areas. unless they drastically reduce the rent? though it kind of makes you wonder if there are any radical changes planned for the garage, and/or what exactly 2.9 million can do in terms of garage development?

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are there balconies back there? its hard to tell from the picture. we've seen the windows back there. it does seem kind of odd but i guess natural light with no views is better than artificial light? i would hope they don't lease those out as units, and use the rear lower floors as mechanical and common areas. unless they drastically reduce the rent? though it kind of makes you wonder if there are any radical changes planned for the garage, and/or what exactly 2.9 million can do in terms of garage development?

 

I thought those were for tie in to the garage.. like pedestrian walkway so you dont have to go all the way down, outside, and around the block to the main entry.

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It's a shame this tower will block the awesome view of BofA on I-10 heading west right by Downtown... Oh well. As Bill Heslop says, "you can't stop progress".

 

IDK - it's only going to be about as tall as the second setback (from the bottom) of the middle tier... stated differently, not a whole lot taller than Lyric, which is a block west, and directly north of BoA (well, "directly" in the context of our agreed municipal fiction that rotates the downtown compass 45 degrees).

 

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IDK - it's only going to be about as tall as the second setback (from the bottom) of the middle tier... stated differently, not a whole lot taller than Lyric, which is a block west, and directly north of BoA (well, "directly" in the context of our agreed municipal fiction that rotates the downtown compass 45 degrees).

It already blocks half the view. I know it's just one angle but still sucks in my books.
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The Bayou Banks and the Bayou.

 

1. Does the Bayou need to be cleaned up?

2. Can the Banks be beautified and is that being done?

 

1. yes. the amount of trash in every bayou is staggering. go for a walk, or a bike ride after the next heavy rainstorm down one of the bayou trails, look at how much trash is floating down the bayous.

2. they can, I don't think anything is being done on this stretch. of course, what's your definition of beautified? mid 60s corps of engineer concrete lined beauty? current buffalo bayou park beauty? natural beauty? land that was abandoned from industrial use more than 50 years ago beauty? I think, if it's the latter, you're all set.

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1. yes. the amount of trash in every bayou is staggering. go for a walk, or a bike ride after the next heavy rainstorm down one of the bayou trails, look at how much trash is floating down the bayous.

2. they can, I don't think anything is being done on this stretch. of course, what's your definition of beautified? mid 60s corps of engineer concrete lined beauty? current buffalo bayou park beauty? natural beauty? land that was abandoned from industrial use more than 50 years ago beauty? I think, if it's the latter, you're all set.

 

I think the ultimate issue that makes a lot of the beautification discussion kinda moot is that it's still a functional drainage waterway. We can try and control its flooding, but anything on the banks HAS to be flood-proof. No point in designing something otherwise. What that does to trash is what you hinted at - Houstonians can be careless & heartless sometimes.

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i hope we get a big tower on that side of downtown. This project has already extended the width of downtown in alot of views and having a 45+ office building would be awesome

That's my dream! For our downtown to really grow into something that competes with the big boys it needs to grow outward, with more skyscrapers north of Chase tower and south of the Pierce elevated.

Once the Pierce is torn down, we could effectively DOUBLE the size of our downtown if you start building skyward in midtown. It's all the same street grid pattern!!

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That's my dream! For our downtown to really grow into something that competes with the big boys it needs to grow outward, with more skyscrapers north of Chase tower and south of the Pierce elevated.

Once the Pierce is torn down, we could effectively DOUBLE the size of our downtown if you start building skyward in midtown. It's all the same street grid pattern!!

 

I'd like to see the east side get filled in first but yea pretty much agree with this. 

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That's my dream! For our downtown to really grow into something that competes with the big boys it needs to grow outward, with more skyscrapers north of Chase tower and south of the Pierce elevated.

Once the Pierce is torn down, we could effectively DOUBLE the size of our downtown if you start building skyward in midtown. It's all the same street grid pattern!!

Don't forget that they're also planning on burying 59 effectively removing the barrier between midtown and the museum district... It's not hard to envision one continuous dense skyline bookened by downtown to the north and the medical center to the south.

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Then again, you could double downtown's office space without even having to go beyond the traditional freeway encirclement. Considering that most of these buildings want tunnel connections, that seems much more likely.

 

Which is fine with me... skyscrapers tend to bring parking lots, garages, and dead zones in their wake. I love them, but I don't want them everywhere. I'm hoping Midtown becomes a great residential neighborhood in the vein of Greenwich Village or London's West End, i.e. short dense buildings with a thriving street life between them.

 

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Don't forget that they're also planning on burying 59 effectively removing the barrier between midtown and the museum district... It's not hard to envision one continuous dense skyline bookened by downtown to the north and the medical center to the south.

 

Need a Mapster to overlay Chicago's DT Streetgrid over Houston for comparison. 

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Here is a basic outline of downtown Chicago over downtown Houston.  "The Loop" is the loop of elevated trains that forms the core of the CBD of Chicago, while the outlined box to the right (with the bean in the NW corner) is a large park on Lake Michigan.  I didn't include the actual street grid because that got too messy.

 

It looks like the core of Chicago is similarly sized to downtown, though with almost no parking lots.  The magnificent mile (not shown; again messy) is right about where N main street is on this map.  The outlined area seems to be the main area of large buildings.  

 

I couldn't get the overlay to turn to align with Houston's grid

 

 

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Chicago over Downtown HOU by Christopher Hisle, on Flickr

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Yeah the western boundary appears to be the interstate, but it's only 5 blocks west of the river/canal.  What makes Chicago seem huge is they have many more high rises and they extend much further; we were all the way out at Wrigley, and there was solid chain of high rise buildings going back to the city

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