wilcal Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Open House for the Bagby redesign happening on Thursday, December 6 1730-1900 Program begins at 1800 Julia Ideson Building Reading Room 550 McKinney St https://i.imgur.com/0OHhtRH.jpg Pretty sure I'm gonna go, so I'll report back to y'all what is said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Trying to get a copy of the actual presentation, but a few of my pics will have to do. There were probably 10-20 regular citizens and 15-25 reps of associated companies (traffic, engineering, whatever). https://i.imgur.com/nSUJxOr.jpg First, they brought a 1:1 scale cross-section of Bagby so you could see just how wide each section is in relation to each other. Was actually pretty cool. There weren't a ton of the changes from the renderings earlier this year, but this was a big one: https://i.imgur.com/DnePycV.jpg Right above where it says library, there is a drive-through for a book drop. In the initial renderings, the bike lane was going to dogleg around the book drop, but now the driveway will cut through it and the sidewalk. I was.... befuddled as to how they can spend this much effort on reconfiguration but it was explained to me that the book drop links to an underground book processing area so it can't be moved. So that sucks big time. https://i.imgur.com/azuXxOF.jpg You can see how much the street will be reduced for cars. They ran the traffic numbers, and even projected traffic through 2040, and it was still fine. Shows how overdeveloped many of the streets are. https://i.imgur.com/IIg62lS.jpg Good cross-section of the eastern portion of Bagby. This will vary quite a bit as the street changes width. Underneath the bridge by Bayou Place, the street buffer is only a curb. As notated, the bike lane will be a full 12' wide including the buffers. They are using an octagonal tile that is aimed at riding on for the bike lane. The coloring is true to what they intend. I expressed concerns that there is enough delineation to keep pedestrians out of the bike track, but they expressed a desire to be able to utilize the space as more of a plaza during events. The original rendering had yellow stripes in the bike lanes, which I prefer. I also asked about utilizing elements that offered protection between the car lane and the bike lane, but they wanted to focus on more unobtrusive (shorter) offerings. They don't want anyone sitting on the planters that might be in the buffer zone. Updated timeline: https://i.imgur.com/9Q5Iw1V.jpg Pretty much the same as before. They said that they would have another meeting in the spring that would be between 90 and 100% plan completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Link to the full presentation: http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/181206_Bagby_Public-Open-House_Presentation.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 2:10 PM, wilcal said: Trying to get a copy of the actual presentation, but a few of my pics will have to do. There were probably 10-20 regular citizens and 15-25 reps of associated companies (traffic, engineering, whatever). https://i.imgur.com/nSUJxOr.jpg First, they brought a 1:1 scale cross-section of Bagby so you could see just how wide each section is in relation to each other. Was actually pretty cool. There weren't a ton of the changes from the renderings earlier this year, but this was a big one: https://i.imgur.com/DnePycV.jpg Right above where it says library, there is a drive-through for a book drop. In the initial renderings, the bike lane was going to dogleg around the book drop, but now the driveway will cut through it and the sidewalk. I was.... befuddled as to how they can spend this much effort on reconfiguration but it was explained to me that the book drop links to an underground book processing area so it can't be moved. So that sucks big time. https://i.imgur.com/azuXxOF.jpg You can see how much the street will be reduced for cars. They ran the traffic numbers, and even projected traffic through 2040, and it was still fine. Shows how overdeveloped many of the streets are. https://i.imgur.com/IIg62lS.jpg Good cross-section of the eastern portion of Bagby. This will vary quite a bit as the street changes width. Underneath the bridge by Bayou Place, the street buffer is only a curb. As notated, the bike lane will be a full 12' wide including the buffers. They are using an octagonal tile that is aimed at riding on for the bike lane. The coloring is true to what they intend. I expressed concerns that there is enough delineation to keep pedestrians out of the bike track, but they expressed a desire to be able to utilize the space as more of a plaza during events. The original rendering had yellow stripes in the bike lanes, which I prefer. I also asked about utilizing elements that offered protection between the car lane and the bike lane, but they wanted to focus on more unobtrusive (shorter) offerings. They don't want anyone sitting on the planters that might be in the buffer zone. Updated timeline: https://i.imgur.com/9Q5Iw1V.jpg Pretty much the same as before. They said that they would have another meeting in the spring that would be between 90 and 100% plan completion. Interesting. Thank you for your work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/10/2018 at 3:30 PM, wilcal said: Link to the full presentation: http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/181206_Bagby_Public-Open-House_Presentation.pdf This is going to be fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 On one of the slides it shows the old Post Office site and it says "potential detention". I suppose this refers to a detention pond. Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 58 minutes ago, Twinsanity02 said: On one of the slides it shows the old Post Office site and it says "potential detention". I suppose this refers to a detention pond. Anyone know? Yes, I presume it refers to detention pond. But I don't think they mean to indicate that the detention pond would replace the post office. I think they have used a map from another source and it probably left the arrows off of the map, to the right. On the North Houston Highway Improvement Project maps, they indicate potential detention underneath the new freeways, to the north and across the railroad tracks from the Post Office site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted January 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2019 Some design changes made to the retail structure coming to Jones Plaza https://www.rchstudios.com/projects/jones-plaza/ Previous design: 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Looks like a significant enhancement. Exciting project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Bagby St renovations to begin this Fall https://abc13.com/traffic/bagby-corridor-renovation-to-benefit-cyclists-and-pedestrians-/5206204/ 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 4:36 AM, Urbannizer said: Some design changes made to the retail structure coming to Jones Plaza https://www.rchstudios.com/projects/jones-plaza/ Previous design: No more grass stairway to heaven. Ah well, didn't think that was going to work. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 If there's no more grass pathway up to the green roof, how are they going to mow it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, cspwal said: If there's no more grass pathway up to the green roof, how are they going to mow it? Astroturf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 6:33 PM, Urbannizer said: Bagby St renovations to begin this Fall https://abc13.com/traffic/bagby-corridor-renovation-to-benefit-cyclists-and-pedestrians-/5206204/ At the meeting in December, they said that they would have another public meeting this spring. I contacted them last week and they told me that it had not been scheduled yet. I would imagine design work is just about complete and that they'll show of finalized stuff. I wonder what prompted this story to come out. It's been months since we had any real updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 6:33 PM, Urbannizer said: Bagby St renovations to begin this Fall https://abc13.com/traffic/bagby-corridor-renovation-to-benefit-cyclists-and-pedestrians-/5206204/ Talked with the Downtown District's Director of Planning and she said that they are still working through 90% documents to get to the city and have no determined a first start date or construction length 😕 The original presentation from December started a June start date, and this article says fall. She said a few issues with infrastructure upgrades and phasing sequence with the city. Their original timeline was: Feb 2019 90% plan submission. April 2019 100% plan submission May 2019 Contractor Procurement June 2019-21 Construction So if they are still working on 90% plan submission, then that's at least 2 months behind which does lean towards a fall start as reported in March. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Any word on when the renovation at Jones Plaza will begin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Anyway to move the Bagby Street portion of this thread into its own thread in Transportation? Remembered this project and then went looking for it until I remembered it was here. Would be odd linking it on the map to a Theater Master plan. @Urbannizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Bagby Street Improvement update from the Downtown District Sept board meeting: Quote This capital project has been in design since May 2018 with 90% construction documents submitted to Houston Public Works (HPW) on July 26, 2019 and City-comments returned August 17, 2019. Staff has conducted client-review of the documents throughout August and provided final comments to consultant on September 3, 2019. Oneon-one stakeholder meetings were held during late August with the Aquarium, Bayou Place, Hobby Center, and the City team for City Hall sidewalk restoration. A final Stakeholder Advisory Committee (SAC) meeting will be held September 19, 2019. Permitting and contractor procurement will be conducted from September 19 through November 12, 2019, pending Authority Board acceptance of the bids and authorization of the general contractor’s agreement. Bagby Street reconstruction is currently estimated at two years in duration, with estimated start date of January 6, 2020 following the holidays. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post X.R. Posted October 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Houston-philanthropist-to-fund-Jones-Plaza-remake-14498074.php "Lynn Wyatt, the famed Houston socialite and philanthropist, on Monday announced a donation of $10 million to the city to transform Jones Plaza, a long-empty space in the Theater District." Its going to be called the Lynn Wyatt Square for the Performing Arts. Seems like this project got the kick in the butt it needed to kinda get some movement on it. edit: I'm sitting here and comparing the old jones plaza to the new drawings, and it really shows how much Houston has changed in terms of the direction the city is going. The facelift in 2001 cost 6.5 million and added a little greenery while modernizing the space, but added more concrete. Now you have 10 million to do the opposite, which is get rid of quite a bit of the concrete and add much more green space. Funny how that happens. Edited October 7, 2019 by X.R. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 That 10 million is just part of the 29 million dollars that this project is expected to spend to bring this to fruition. The Downtown Redevelopment Authority is also giving 10 million, and Houston First Corp. is giving 5 million. This is a great beginning to the new theater district master plan. I cant wait to see what they have in store for that part of downtown. They have the opportunity to really pull all of it together and make that part of downtown really special. Now that the Historic district has become such an important area with all of the new residential thats been built, or currently under construction, this will be a welcome improvement. I also see more retail starting to pop up around the area. It's all heading in the right direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Fantastic news for the Theater District. Really looking forward to seeing this project take shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 https://www.rchstudios.com/projects/the-lynn-wyatt-square/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, CREguy13 said: https://www.rchstudios.com/projects/the-lynn-wyatt-square/ Texas Avenue (Future Festival Street)... Hmm... interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Do we have an updated timeline on the Theater District Master plan? There is actually quite a lot of green space that is under-utilized. I think if Houston First is smart, they will work in 1-3 residential towers in the area to make this an area that is constantly vibrant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, CREguy13 said: https://www.rchstudios.com/projects/the-lynn-wyatt-square/ Another slight design change for the retail structure: Before: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, Urbannizer said: Another slight design change for the retail structure: Before: I like the exposed wood joists better on the new design. Hopefully a snake doesn't slither off that roof and land on somebody as they're carrying their coffee outside. Or a mudslide after one of our major rain events. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Kinda reminds me of the Dunlavy, with the open nature of the windows and the setting of the building. The amount of thought that went into that space as shown by the website is pretty astounding. Different parts of the area activated for different uses, and its almost like a smaller Miller outdoor theatre/discovery green. Really cool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) On 10/8/2019 at 11:39 AM, H-Town Man said: I like the exposed wood joists better on the new design. Hopefully a snake doesn't slither off that roof and land on somebody as they're carrying their coffee outside. Or a mudslide after one of our major rain events. They will have to add that thick parapet back. Other than that it looks like they got some feedback from a structural engineer and were like...yeah I think some lateral joists make sense. Are they going to rename the park? or will this be something like "Lynn Wyatt Square For The Performing Arts at Jones Plaza"?@Urbannizer Edited October 10, 2019 by Luminare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I just wish they could solve the flooding issues with that part of town. I think if they went ahead with the White Oak Bayou bypass over to the eastern side of town to connect with Buffalo Bayou they would help the western and northwestern side of downtown. I also believe that the county buidings that are built near Louisiana and Travis should be taken out as they constrict the flow of water through downtown. They are literally built to the waters edge leaving no room for excess drainage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, Luminare said: They will have to add that thick parapet back. Other than that it looks like they got some feedback from a structural engineer and were like...yeah I think some lateral joists make sense. Are they going to rename the park? or will this be something like "Lynn Wyatt Square For The Performing Arts at Jones Plaza"?@Urbannizer I think Houston Endowment should write them a check for $15 million with the memo line: "Name stays." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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