nate 241 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) http://www.corgan.com/projects/tower-hermann-park/ The base looks beautiful. Edited March 7, 2014 by nate 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nate 241 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 "PART of a proposed development?" Interestingly, there was a drilling crew out this morning on the land between the new tower and The Parklane. This suggests that the land between the towers could either be: (i) developed, (ii) sold, or (iii) financed soon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urbannizer 44134 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Me thinks this one is undergoing a change in design, the project was removed from the architect's website. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Naviguessor 2185 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Wha-oh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arche_757 845 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Probably too expensive the way it was orginially proposed. Sadly... Hopefully we will see something happen eventually at this site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Naviguessor 2185 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Good spot for a high end hotel. Not many left in the area.ust speculating. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arche_757 845 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 ^I was thinking the same thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Montrose1100 3722 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Me thinks this one is undergoing a change in design, the project was removed from the architect's website.Hopefully for a better one. We don't have any twisty buildings in Houston. Oh well, even if it wasn't twisty it pays homage to the other tower and will fit in nicely. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monarch 3797 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 a little design diversity, certainly wouldn't upset the neighborhood. let us hope that they stay true, as per the rendering. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 11802 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Is this the new design? /s 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BaderJF 537 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Is this the new design?/sI always wish they would demolish this building, and now it's even worse with the gray color 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
'Stonian 361 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I always wish they would demolish this building, and now it's even worse with the gray color The gray may hide it and help it blend in more with the sky on a cloudy day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VelvetJ 19 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Speaking of the Mercer ^ , I just saw the new paint job on yesterday and while I still feel it is a scar on Houston's skyline, it looks a little better with the darker color scheme. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sky-guy 191 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 This is what needs to happen to the mercer:http://www.businessinsider.com/tower-infinity-first-invisible-skyscraper-2013-9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fernz 364 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 An invisible skyscraper near the international airport? Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
contraption6 0 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Does this have any life? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloud713 4038 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 the same owners just announced a midrise apartment complex for the property next to this, so they may be focusing their efforts on that one first? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JWW 12 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Regardless of Nate's prognostications and predilections for this tower, it is off the table. Confirmed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bachanon 444 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 too bad. i had hopes for more towers around the park. i wonder if demand is such that, for some companies, it is more profitable to get something built sooner. or, maybe the market is such that people prefer hi-rise buildings downtown and uptown more so than the med center? it could be any number of factors. just thinking "out loud". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 (edited) the same owners just announced a midrise apartment complex for the property next to this, so they may be focusing their efforts on that one first?Please disregard pre-edit post. Confused this thread with the Market Square thread. Edited July 4, 2014 by houstontexasjack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fernz 364 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Regardless of Nate's prognostications and predilections for this tower, it is off the table. Confirmed.It's sad to loose this tower, but it's a good sign. The developers probably got sticker shock from their fancy design when they got bids in, and realized they would need really high rents to make it work. In a healthy market, you scrap your unique design and ask your architects to come up with a more feasible alternative. If we were in the middle of a bubble, they would go ahead assuming rents will keep going up an people will pay top dollar for their awesome apartments...that's how you end up with empty towers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
citykid09 220 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 So is this officially, officially never happening? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloud713 4038 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I don't think anyone ever said that.. They just decided to go with the more economical approach to bring in some income to eventually build the tower. Or that's my thoughts at least... The plot where the tower is planned is still earmarked for a highrise (I don't know if it's even big enough for another apartment midrise). TEMA will eventually get around to building something there. I just wish/hoped it would be the twisty design. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urbannizer 44134 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 This is still planned according to the article, along with an unannounced project by the developer. http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2014/12/75-million-luxury-apartment-project-breaks-ground.html Quote Tema Development, which was established in 1981, also developed The Parklane, a 35-story luxury condominium tower at 1701 Hermann Drive in the Museum District. The developer is planning two other projects in the Museum District, including a 42-story apartment tower northwest of The Parklane, which was developed in the early 1980s. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 So, in the Christmas-season spirit, it's dead. But, it might not be "dead as a doornail." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urbannizer 44134 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/sarnoff/article/Wrecking-ball-heading-for-old-Spring-Branch-5935922.php#/1 Tema owns 6.8 acres of land along Hermann Park. One of the buildings it has planned for the site is a 42-story tower. The company announced the project in 2013, but now says the tower will not be developed for least four more years. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It is a pretty building, and well worth a wait. I am glad to see it is not necessarily "dead" but in deep carbon-freeze hibernation. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Howard Huge 2398 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/sarnoff/article/Wrecking-ball-heading-for-old-Spring-Branch-5935922.php#/1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Luminare 6046 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 ....how dare you take Robert Downy Jr. from me D: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toxtethogrady 808 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Can you wait 4-6 years? From Swamplot. http://swamplot.com/more-tema-apartments-coming-north-of-hermann-park-but-not-that-tall-twisty-tower-yet/2014-12-04/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-TownChris2 1892 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/columnists/sarnoff/article/Wrecking-ball-heading-for-old-Spring-Branch-5935922.php#/1Lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H-TownChris2 1892 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Thats quite a long time. Maybe enough time for some upscaling????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Montrose1100 3722 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Is ther person that runs swamp lot a HAIF ex-pat? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloud713 4038 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) Still on the boards, as part of their "6 year development timeline".Also a 20ish story residential high rise planned for behind the Residences."Tema plans to develop the property in three phases. Here is what's planned for the site:Hermann Park Residences (final name pending): The seven-story, 224-unit luxury apartment complex will sit on 2.25 acres just east of The Parklane and feature high-end fit and finishes and amenities, including a sky lounge overlooking Hermann Park. The project is scheduled for completion in late 2016.A high-rise residential tower is planned for a 2.19-acre parcel east of Hermann Park Residences. Tema had announced plans for a 42-story tower last year, but the company is stepping back on that phase of the project to focus on Hermann Park Residences, which is admittedly "less risky" and will be delivered faster, Haidar said. The tower will ultimately be between 35 and 50 stories.Another mid-rise apartment complex — about 20 stories tall — is planned behind Hermann Park Residences. Its size will be in between the other two projects, Haidar said."http://m.bizjournals.com/houston/news/2014/12/11/developer-restarts-waylaid-plans-for-residential.html Edited December 11, 2014 by cloud713 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 50 stories would cross a cool psychological barrier for residential development. As has been previously discussed, once some of the other 40-story developments are developed, going 50 stories will suggest a new kind of ultra-luxury development. I wonder if Tema will try for EB-5 money to help fund this. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloud713 4038 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Agreed. Anything over 40 stories will be a first for Houston residential towers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Kicking this thread for discussion. As the Southmore and One Hermann move toward completion, I have to wonder if this proposal would have more success as a condominium proposal. The condo market has been quite robust despite the downturn. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Urbannizer 44134 Posted May 4, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2016 http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2016/05/sneak-peek-new-luxe-apartments-across-from-hermann.html Tema Development, established in 1981, also developed The Parklane, a 35-story luxury condominium and apartment tower finished in 1983 at 1701 Hermann Dr. in the Museum District. The developer is now in the early stages of planning two high-rise residential towers called Two and Three Hermann Place on the remainder of the 6 acres next to One Hermann Place and The Parklane. “We’ve started conceptual drawings, but we have no plans to develop anything right now,” said Haytham Haidar, who is leading Tema’s development team. “We’re focused on leasing up One Hermann Place." 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cloud713 4038 Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 As HAIFers, we should take it upon ourselves to head down to the leasing office and each sign up for a unit, all the while promoting the heck out of One Hermann Place to everyone we know, so that it will fill up faster and there will be so much demand for units they'll be forced to build these new towers.. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 5/4/2016 at 7:11 PM, cloud713 said: As HAIFers, we should take it upon ourselves to head down to the leasing office and each sign up for a unit, all the while promoting the heck out of One Hermann Place to everyone we know, so that it will fill up faster and there will be so much demand for units they'll be forced to build these new towers.. Tangentially related to this, I recommended One Hermann Place to an acquaintance who's moving to Houston. I've noticed a number of the vacant lots along Almeda and San Jacinto have new signs go up to market the lots. A few more deals to add a bit more retail to the neighborhood should make it even more attractive for those looking to have the "best of both worlds" as far as a quiet residential area that's within easy walking distance to busier commercial corridors. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urbannizer 44134 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Has anyone heard anything about Two Hermann Place moving forward soon? It looks like interior finishes are being chosen for the high-rise, files are dated 01/2018 https://www.symmons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CDSLW1284-12-Ver-A.pdf https://www.symmons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CDSRT0553-72-FSTF.pdf 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Urbannizer said: Has anyone heard anything about Two Hermann Place moving forward soon? It looks like interior finishes are being chosen for the high-rise, files are dated 01/2018 https://www.symmons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CDSLW1284-12-Ver-A.pdf https://www.symmons.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/CDSRT0553-72-FSTF.pdf I called TEMA about this today and got the "I'm not at liberty to discuss this project" response. I take this as good news, given that I would expect a "we have no plans at this time" response if something weren't going on in the background. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avossos 2285 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I have no insider info, however in late 2013 / early 2014 they said this project was on hold for 4 to 6 years. We are in year 5 range... Seems to line up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Urbannizer 44134 Posted April 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2018 Two Hermann Place, 30 floors 29 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Urbannizer said: Two Hermann Place, 30 floors Wow, that's on the back of the property. Still a chance for captain twisty on the front. I dig it. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Triton 11802 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Looks like it's safe to say the real estate boom is back in Houston after the drop in oil and Harvey. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avossos 2285 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Looks like they have room for a total of 3 towers... This would be 1/3 of the new developments. I image the twisty one would go at the corner and be the signature tower. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
houstontexasjack 2359 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 In giving the rendering a closer look-through, the design shares a lot of the elements from the Southmore. A garage podium, apparently wrapped in limestone, with a pool deck on top. A major glass floor topping the building with clean lines. It's a fine looking building, but I can't help but think that it, along with the Southmore, Aris Market Square, Catalyst, the Midtown, the Driscoll, and the Hanover Montrose will all end up being grouped together as similar examples of the "2010's style" 20 years down the line. Nothing particularly noxious about them, but also nothing that would immediately bring to mind any particular building's name. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shasta 337 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Apartments or condos? If condos, have they started presales? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobruss 4988 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 The gap is getting smaller, and with this plethora of new residential high-rise growth that has enveloped the Museum district/ Hermann park, area the density levels have probably tripled in the last year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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