HoustonIsHome Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Wow, that is a flat and unflattering angle of downtown. Looks like Phoenix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Just imagine that angle by 2017 when there will be a 10 story residential high rise, two 12+ story residential highrises and a new park on another of the blocks.. Besides the obvious 5 story apartment here... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 ^and the view will be from a newly renovated downtown icon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Just imagine that angle by 2017 when there will be a 10 story residential high rise, two 12+ story residential highrises and a new park on another of the blocks.. Besides the obvious 5 story apartment here...The two 12 story buildings will be in the frame but not the 10 story.I am drawing a blank on the park. Where will this be?Edit: Looking at Google maps I counted 35 lots in SE downtown that are at least 50% covered by surface parking. I used polk as the northern boundary and main as the western boundary. Counted 60 blocks in total. This is is really a sad state judging by the fact that most of the occupied blocks host single story buildings Edited January 23, 2014 by HoustonIsHome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 ^and the view will be from a newly renovated downtown icon.unfortunately it wont be an icon after its renovated.. The two 12 story buildings will be in the frame but not the 10 story.I am drawing a blank on the park. Where will this be?Edit: Looking at Google maps I counted 35 lots in SE downtown that are at least 50% covered by surface parking. I used polk as the northern boundary and main as the western boundary. Counted 60 blocks in total. This is is really a sad state judging by the fact that most of the occupied blocks host single story buildingsthey havent announced the location of the park yet, just that they are pursuing one in southern downtown. and i definitely wont argue with you that there are a ton of surface lots in south east downtown.. they dont call it the "parking lot district" for nothing. heh.. im looking forward to the park revitalizing the area and bringing new developments with it, as the other downtown parks have done for their respected districts. hopefully in the next decade that portion of downtown will be unrecognizable, filled with entertainment, residential and mixed use developments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The two 12 story buildings will be in the frame but not the 10 story.I am drawing a blank on the park. Where will this be?Edit: Looking at Google maps I counted 35 lots in SE downtown that are at least 50% covered by surface parking. I used polk as the northern boundary and main as the western boundary. Counted 60 blocks in total. This is is really a sad state judging by the fact that most of the occupied blocks host single story buildings So the point your making is....? There should be multiple buildings occupying 1 city block and none of these blocks should be parking? I like the multiple uses for 1 block, and think that feels more urban. I think we see that north downtown. But in this former "parking district" it is unreasonable to assume that a parking lot block will be purchased in peices. This area of downtown is going to have, most likely, single buildings on it... Just because this is the case, doesnt mean it is bad. What's done is done here. I wish the 1900s buildings still filled these blocks, but, i will take what we get here. Happy to see the development! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 So the point your making is....?There should be multiple buildings occupying 1 city block and none of these blocks should be parking?I like the multiple uses for 1 block, and think that feels more urban. I think we see that north downtown. But in this former "parking district" it is unreasonable to assume that a parking lot block will be purchased in peices. This area of downtown is going to have, most likely, single buildings on it... Just because this is the case, doesnt mean it is bad.What's done is done here. I wish the 1900s buildings still filled these blocks, but, i will take what we get here. Happy to see the development!The point I made was quite clear I said it is an ugly shot of downtown plain and simple.Anyway if downtown is going to build a healthy residential population it is going to have to build UP soon. The building that Alliance is building on this block isnt going to cut it.The following are the number of total units if all 35 lots were occupied by:Alliance-7250Hines MS-8700 on 33 floorsSkyhouse- 11800 on 22 floorsPark Place-12000 on 30 floors not counting parkingBlock 35-16200 on 40 floorsThats an average of 10000 units. I am thinking that 102 floor building might start looking attractive if residential interest picks up. About 60 floors of residential in that building would do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Edit: Looking at Google maps I counted 35 lots in SE downtown that are at least 50% covered by surface parking. I used polk as the northern boundary and main as the western boundary. Counted 60 blocks in total. This is is really a sad state judging by the fact that most of the occupied blocks host single story buildings I count 30 such blocks out of a total of 63 blocks in the specified area (counting Toyota Center as 4 blocks, which is the number it covers. The good news is, that is 10 fewer blocks of surface parking than just a relatively few years ago: Toyota Center and Tundra Garage and Hilton Americas/GRB Garage: 7 blocksSacred Heart Co-Cathedral: 1 blockSky House: 3/4 blockMain & Leeland Apartments: 1 block  More good news: There are apartment towers seriously proposed that will take away another 3 of those blocks. Edited January 23, 2014 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The point I made was quite clear I said it is an ugly shot of downtown plain and simple.Anyway if downtown is going to build a healthy residential population it is going to have to build UP soon.The building that Alliance is building on this block isnt going to cut it.The following are the number of total units if all 35 lots were occupied by:Alliance-7250Hines MS-8700 on 33 floorsSkyhouse- 11800 on 22 floorsPark Place-12000 on 30 floors not counting parkingBlock 35-16200 on 40 floorsThats an average of 10000 units. I am thinking that 102 floor building might start looking attractive if residential interest picks up. About 60 floors of residential in that building would do. Relax. We don't have to rely on the Alliance project or projects like it to "cut it." Your concern about needing to build UP soon seems especially odd when you are already aware of the projects that are doing so. There are at least 10 serious residential projects in the works downtown and the Alliance is the shortest. The only other one with a single-digit floor count is Finger's 500 Crawford project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Relax. We don't have to rely on the Alliance project or projects like it to "cut it." Your concern about needing to build UP soon seems especially odd when you are already aware of the projects that are doing so. There are at least 10 serious residential projects in the works downtown and the Alliance is the shortest. The only other one with a single-digit floor count is Finger's 500 Crawford project.I am relaxed.Im just saying that eventually they are going to have to go up if they want a sizeable downtown population.The 10 residential plans on the board amount to how many units? 2500??I'm just saying that residential could return downtown to building tall again if the market keeps up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I count 30 such blocks out of a total of 63 blocks in the specified area (counting Toyota Center as 4 blocks, which is the number it covers. The good news is, that is 10 fewer blocks of surface parking than just a relatively few years ago: Toyota Center and Tundra Garage and Hilton Americas/GRB Garage: 7 blocksSacred Heart Co-Cathedral: 1 blockSky House: 3/4 blockMain & Leeland Apartments: 1 block  More good news: There are apartment towers seriously proposed that will take away another 3 of those blocks. Sky House block had buildings on it that had to be demolished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'll take a five story apartment building with 350 people living in it over a dreary parking lot on the southside of downtown right now.Besides didn't you say there were 30 other blocks we could get the mid rise to hi rises built on. I think its important just to startgetting as many people as possible into downtown and if it takes a couple of these smaller projects to grease the wheel, that's fine with me. That's more warm bodies living in downtown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Sky House block had buildings on it that had to be demolished.He also missed the point I made that a lot of the lots that do have buildings on them have one story buildings that will probably be demolished too. The 10 story residential is going on the lot that had that glass store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Sky House block had buildings on it that had to be demolished. I know. That's why I wrote 3/4 of a block for Sky House. (The existing building that had to be demolished occupied 1/4 of the block.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) He also missed the point I made that a lot of the lots that do have buildings on them have one story buildings that will probably be demolished too.The 10 story residential is going on the lot that had that glass store. You missed the point. ;-) The residential developers are already going up. Edited January 23, 2014 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I know. That's why I wrote 3/4 of a block for Sky House. (The existing building that had to be demolished occupied 1/4 of the block.)  Well, then you don't seem to be accounting for the surface parking that will exist in the Sky House development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky-guy Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Well, then you don't seem to be accounting for the surface parking that will exist in the Sky House development.What surface parking? The Sky House block has the building itself and a garage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) Well, then you don't seem to be accounting for the surface parking that will exist in the Sky House development. Oh but I did account for the surface parking lots that will exist in the Sky House development. Every one of them. There aren't any. Edited January 24, 2014 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 You missed the point. ;-) The residential developers are already going up. Not up enough dang it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Not up enough dang it. Downtown has proposals for a 33 story, a 28 story, possibly a 38 story (depending on what thee texaco redevelopers decide), and now a 40 story residential highrise. Not counting the rumored 40+ story ritz with resi. But I agree, we can always build taller! Heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Oh but I did account for the surface parking lots that will exist in the Sky House development. Every one of them. There aren't any. e.g. http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/skyhouse-tower-retail-plan.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 i thought i recalled there being some spots on the side... i wonder if they will be reserved for a specific use, or have a time limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 (edited) e.g. http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/skyhouse-tower-retail-plan.jpg I stand corrected. And your point was...? To be clear, it remains a block that previously was more than 50% surface parking that is no longer more than 50% surface parking, thus this project reduces the count of such blocks by one, as originally stated. (And instead of gaining 75% of a block converted from surface parking we merely gain 70%?)  I would correct my earlier post but the edit button is not making itself available. Edited January 24, 2014 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Downtown has proposals for a 33 story, a 28 story, possibly a 38 story (depending on what thee texaco redevelopers decide), and now a 40 story residential highrise. Not counting the rumored 40+ story ritz with resi. But I agree, we can always build taller! Heh All small fry Edited January 25, 2014 by HoustonIsHome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Edited because the mods deleted the post i was replying to... Edited January 25, 2014 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 um.. people who want to see the downtown population grow so that other amenities will finally start to come to downtown so we can have a vibrant place thats not just a 9-5 destination...This is true, and I agree. I wish the appearance of the building was all brick instead of the trendy, expected apartment building. I think we can all agree this building is showing a good trend, but it definitely isn't super exciting within itself, and that's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Moderators: In all seriousness, why do we no longer have an ignore button available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I think everyone has beaten this subject to death. Why don't we agree to disagree and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 well his post has been deleted now, making mine look like im the one ranting. i should of quoted him. doh.. ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellez1984 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Please excuse the quality, taken with my phone. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Please excuse the quality, taken with my phone. image (5).jpeg image (4).jpeg   Tellez1984, welcome to the forum and congrats on Carl's 4 golds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I lived in Houston House for 7 years and I gotta say, passed by today and this area looks like a whole different animal.Its like night and day, you can feel the new energy thats about to be here between Houston House, Sky House, Alliance, the new Holiday Inn and the light rail, this is gonna be a VIBRANT area soon, and with more to come!!! I cant wait! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Â Â Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 this was two weeks ago   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bach Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I keep wondering when they're going to give it a real name. Â "Block 334." Â Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
democide Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The view will be real nice from the side facing Main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Â Â Â 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 http://www.block334.com/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Women laughing at food stock photo. lol. Â https://www.pinterest.com/whosinski/women-laughing-at-food/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Women laughing at food stock photo. lol.  https://www.pinterest.com/whosinski/women-laughing-at-food/   I didn't get this at first but, boy, is that website ever lame.  We can only hope that the day will come when website designers will get over their fascination with cliched stock photography. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Their fascination is with their budgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) Women laughing at food stock photo. lol.  https://www.pinterest.com/whosinski/women-laughing-at-food/   Not quite women laughing while eating salads...  Edit: Clicked the pinterest link and realized half of them were women laughing while eating salads. Edited April 9, 2014 by Montrose1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) So the official name is Block 334? Unusual, but makes it feel more urban i suppose. Edited April 9, 2014 by lockmat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 ^Not a very diverse group of residents! What do they think this is.. Dallas?!  Seriously though no disrespect to our fine neighbors up north)... I'm just teasing  Fine with the name. Could have been some convaluted "Gardens at Central City Park" or "The Falls at Fannin" or "The Adventor" or some other ridiculous name Aparments tend to go for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 This is a developer who knows how to take advantage of an incentive program. Building design looks like it was stolen from something on W. Dallas, name was read off the plat map, and website designed from stock photos. And they'll make plenty of money because no one was smart enough to get there first. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I'm a diggin in the dirt gonna plant some seeds   (that's a 420 song...lol)       3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 ^Praise it and blaze it guys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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