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Block 334: Main & Leeland: 5-Stories


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"Alliance Residential Co. is planning to develop a five-story, 207-unit apartment complex south of downtown for the block bounded by Bell, Leeland, Main and Fannin. EDI International is the architectural firm."

 

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Houston-s-apartment-boom-focuses-on-urban-scene-4619878.php?t=445cfc44ffb05374ef

 

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looks retaily on the bottom...seeing as though it's in CBD proper i'm kinda surprised they're mot pushing for something closer to the 7-8 story range, though.

No kidding. We've always been told land value determines height. What gives?

I'm glad development is crawling to the north, starting to build a connection to the core

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"The land is still under contract and is still a parking lot, but the project site consists of 1.44 acres on the southeast corner of Main and Bell streets, just a block north of another incentive project: SkyHouse Houston, Novare Group Inc.’s $65 million high-rise.

 

Alliance wants to build a 207-unit, four-story community above parking."

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2013/06/downtown-living-incentive-plan-finds.html

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looks retaily on the bottom...seeing as though it's in CBD proper i'm kinda surprised they're mot pushing for something closer to the 7-8 story range, though.

Per the hbj article, could it be all the first floor is just parking and this is an effort to disguise it? Or could they still fit some retail in?

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Per the hbj article, could it be all the first floor is just parking and this is an effort to disguise it? Or could they still fit some retail in?

 

They could put retail on the first floor and have the garage behind it. Thats what skyhouse is doing with their north retail area. However, I'm being merely speculative. 

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truthfully i seriously doubt they put retail here - seems unnecessary.

Lost opportunity; even more expensive to fix too. It's right in front of a train stop (which makes me wonder why the MFAH doesn't advertise on the side of their parking garage at the Museum District stop but that's another convo), if anything the tower next door doesn't need retail b/c this one doesn't. Or they both need retail; but one having retail and the other not is a recipe for disaster for the sole retail property.
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Lost opportunity; even more expensive to fix too. It's right in front of a train stop (which makes me wonder why the MFAH doesn't advertise on the side of their parking garage at the Museum District stop but that's another convo), if anything the tower next door doesn't need retail b/c this one doesn't. Or they both need retail; but one having retail and the other not is a recipe for disaster for the sole retail property.

Totally forgot that it's in front of a stop... The city should actually force or at the very least heavily incentivize developers to include retail at stops. Not quite following you why it needs to be either both or none, tho.

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Totally forgot that it's in front of a stop... The city should actually force or at the very least heavily incentivize developers to include retail at stops. Not quite following you why it needs to be either both or none, tho.

I'm guessing because retail likes to be near retail, and if there isn't any there, they won't build it at all because they don't want to be alone because it won't a destination area.

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Lost opportunity; even more expensive to fix too. It's right in front of a train stop (which makes me wonder why the MFAH doesn't advertise on the side of their parking garage at the Museum District stop but that's another convo), if anything the tower next door doesn't need retail b/c this one doesn't. Or they both need retail; but one having retail and the other not is a recipe for disaster for the sole retail property.

Gotta agree with you here.

When the rail was being built, all we heard was allllll these business owners crying foul about how the rail was killing their businesses. NOW that the main st rail is complete, it seems like everyone is clueless on how to capitalize on it. I mean HELLO, you basically have thousands of people every hour passing by your business just looking out of the train windows for something interesting to look at. Advertise loudly, build around the stops, do something!

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Regarding the possibility of retail, (1) we do not know that there is not going to be retail (2) the renderings look like there will be some retail (3) Alliance has built other projects with retail.   On a related note, the downtown current projects map says the building will have an underground garage (which makes 1st floor retail even more feasible/likely).   I have no idea how reliable that note is, but there it is.

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I care.

 

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I care as well. 

 

I honestly wouldn't mind if every parking/vacant lot in downtown went to something "mediocre" like this.  Development like this is great and it brings more residents to downtown, making it a more livable and healthy neighborhood. 

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Doh!

I'm pretty split on this development. I love me some density, but everything about this project feels underwhelming to say the least. Both in the size/scope and design. Oh well, density is density I guess, plenty more vacant parking lots to build more interesting things on.

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its going to be weird seeing a low rise apartment complex in downtown.. ah well, more density/infill/residents! hope your right Alec

on a different note.. whats the likelyhood these lowrise apartment complexes in downtown are just moneymakers/placeholders for the land owners until they deem a highrise to be more profitable in the future when available land in downtown is more scarce?

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The lot is empty and billboard is removed. I'd bet a nickel they'll have construction fence up this week. Hopefully skyhouse leaves their webcam on so we can still watch the progress.

Agreed. That was first thought that crossed my mind when I saw empty lot this morning as I rode train to work. That lot is heavily used by Reliant employees at Travis Tower nearby. Sucks for them ...looks like this is a go.

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Not in a bad sense, but this place is going to look strange to me in downtown. This style is everywhere else but downtown. It'll actually make downtown start to look like a neighborhood. Weird! :P

I was thinking the same thing.

Its not the height that worries me (tge area has quite a few one or two storied buildings. What worries ne is the red brick. THAT will look out of place. I guess if there were ten others in the works it won't stand out as much, but something tells me this will be the only one in the area for sometime.

The height is fine, they just need to cgange the look of the exterior

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I think the greater concern is the material used for construction.  If they are really going to use wooden members for structural support then that is a concern.  Obviously we're talking about a fully sprinklered building.  I still don't like that.

 

I'm all for smaller scale buildings in this part of downtown.  Anything to fill in the sea of empty lots.

Parking is going to start being more of a premium than it was now.

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Thanks! From my vantage point, it was a little hard to tell. Definitely good to hear.

 

Someone will have to remind me, does this complex have retail facing Skyhouse Houston? I ask because Skyhouse has retail facing this development...

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