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Downtown Austin has a nice lake in front of it. Downtown Houston is surrounded mostly by freeways, and has to compete with the Galleria area and anywhere between downtown and the west loop that a developer might happen to drop a pin on a map. The average Houstonian high-rise customer still hasn't figured out that if all the high-rise people live in one place, the whole will be greater than the sum of its parts.

Is downtown Austin the only place high-rises are allowed per their zoning in their metro area?

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Is downtown Austin the only place high-rises are allowed per their zoning in their metro area?

 

Probably not, but it's the only place I can think of where they'd want to be that they're allowed.

 

I wasn't trying to start a downtown Houston vs. downtown Austin thing. Obviously I favor Houston, given my user name. :)  But at this moment in time, there are more people in this world who would want to live within 5 blocks of Town Lake in downtown Austin than within 5 blocks of anything in downtown Houston. As soon as we get an active pedestrian life that will start changing rapidly, but not until then.

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I agree that Town Lake is a great draw for DT Austin.  Despite that, Buffalo Bayou is a resource that we haven't exploited so well yet.  I hope we will get flood bypass channels that will make "Lake Allison" a thing of the past, while also getting more quality-of-life benefits from it.  I think we can work with the python-like grip of the early-60s freeway loop around downtown, although I also hope we can change that, too.  The lack of amenities for downtown residents seems (to me) to be the biggest obstacle.  DT Austin does have the flagship Whole Foods store close by, which must really help it.  For us, I'm glad to see how well Phoenicia seems to be doing, albeit on a smaller scale.  Hopefully their success and more residential development will lead to more choices for DT residents.

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Occupying one half of a city block in the heart of downtown Houston, Hines Market Square is within a five minute walk of the CBD with access to public transportation, and an extensive array of restaurants and clubs in the Historic Warehouse District. Overlooking Houston’s first Urban Park, Market Square, the 33 story tower offers the luxury and convenience of a five star resort hotel. Also located within walking distance from Discovery Green, Buffalo hike and bike trails and three sports stadiums, the new residential tower will be home to 289 residents. Residents living in the tower will be treated to uninterrupted views of Buffalo Bayou to the North, Allen Parkway to the West, city views to the South and Minute Maid Stadium to the East. Perched above the garage on level nine, with dramatic night time city views, is an array of amenities including: an aqua lounge with outdoor pool and terrace, fitness center, club room with gourmet kitchen, Wi-Fi lounge, and a private theater. The corner of Travis and Preston streets has a welcoming porch for outdoor dining which reinforces pedestrian activity at the street level.

 

The design of this luxury residential tower is guided by the modern principals of strength, elegance and timelessness for a 21st century architectural expression clad in a crisp combination of glass, aluminum, and stainless steel complimented by the richness of stone and masonry detailing throughout. The geometry of the tower is organized into a timeless architectural expression with a classic base, middle and top. The project is crowned by a lantern which is illuminated at night to become a landmark building on the Northern edge of downtown Houston. The design of the buildings base responds to the architectural heritage of the surrounding warehouse district, yet engages in a dialogue with Market Square becoming a foreground building as you approach downtown from the North.

 

http://zieglercooper.com/hines-market-square/

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Finally! Now we can get passed the need for a full rendering picture

 

 

I am totally digging the lantern crown on top. Giggity  ^_^

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looks like they changed up the retail on the ground floor a little.. i wonder if there is less retail now or if its the same.

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To hell with the haif-arazzi naysayers, this thing is awesome. I may seriously consider moving there.

Hines never disappoints.

And I want to live there too.

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looks like they changed up the retail on the ground floor a little.. i wonder if there is less retail now or if its the same.

Jesus dude just enjoy it for once.

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huh? i wasnt complaining. i love the tower, and rarely complain about things so i dont understand the "for once".. just pointing out/curious how the ground floor interaction with the street will be now that its slightly different at the bottom and doesnt look like as many store fronts. i would love to live here too!

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huh? i wasnt complaining. i love the tower, and rarely complain about things so i dont understand the "for once".. just pointing out/curious how the ground floor interaction with the street will be now that its slightly different at the bottom and doesnt look like as many store fronts. i would love to live here too!

 

my apologies - some of the comments on this board have irked me a lot lately. i feel like mister x or something :wacko:

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It's more like you need a hit of Mister X or something. Just kidding.

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I don't think so. Notice the balconies don't continue on the garage levels. Plus the initial plans said something to the extent of "one level of retail, 7 levels of garage, and 25 stories of residential".

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As Swamplot noted, it seems like they've taken out the ground floor retail that appeared to be on Preston Street in the initial renderings.

 

A propos of this, I want to make some negative comments about this project, since all we've done so far is shower gratitude on Hines:

 

1. Looks kind of stumpy.

2. The glass treatment on the facade gives it a sleek, yuppie feel more appropriate for Uptown. The historic district ideally deserves a full masonry treatment, something classy like the Museum Tower.

3. The horizontal bands on the upper floors remind me of those scrolling thin green lines on old tv's, pre-1990. The vertical brick pilasters on the lower floors look nice; why not something more like this further up?

4. If the corner entrance area is a grand residents' entrance and not retail as I suspect, it's a wasted opportunity. Prominent corner retail and side retail with potential for outdoor restaurant seating would be fantastic here. Residents do not need a giant lobby to come into. If you're going to do ground floor retail, might as well go all the way and do something amazing.

 

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hines-market-square-rendering.jpg

 

As Swamplot noted, it seems like they've taken out the ground floor retail that appeared to be on Preston Street in the initial renderings.

 

A propos of this, I want to make some negative comments about this project, since all we've done so far is shower gratitude on Hines:

 

1. Looks kind of stumpy.

2. The glass treatment on the facade gives it a sleek, yuppie feel more appropriate for Uptown. The historic district ideally deserves a full masonry treatment, something classy like the Museum Tower.

3. The horizontal bands on the upper floors remind me of those scrolling thin green lines on old tv's, pre-1990. The vertical brick pilasters on the lower floors look nice; why not something more like this further up?

4. If the corner entrance area is a grand residents' entrance and not retail as I suspect, it's a wasted opportunity. Prominent corner retail and side retail with potential for outdoor restaurant seating would be fantastic here. Residents do not need a giant lobby to come into. If you're going to do ground floor retail, might as well go all the way and do something amazing.

 

Well that's a relief.  I was afraid H-Town Man had had a stroke or something.  ;-)

 

 

Oh, and from ZieglerCooper's description of the building:  "The corner of Travis and Preston streets has a welcoming porch for outdoor dining which reinforces pedestrian activity at the street level."

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I don't know if this is truly the finalized rendering... I say this because I remember the first rendering looked most similar to this, then I distinctly remember a second rendering that looked a little different (better in proportions, but less . The rendering above looks similar to the 1st.

 

If this is truly the 3rd rendering, then I agree in the sense that this is the worst of the 3 I've seen. This is such a unique space, and this is better than I was expecting. I think it needs to be MOSTLY brick, and accents of the other materials, as opposed to vice versa, as they mentioned. I hope they make this as classic as possible, with the hints of modernity as the accents. Either way,it will be an improvement.

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As is so often the case with those who want only to be relentlessly negative (e.g., Swamplot),  the reduction of retail on the Preston side is noted and bemoaned, but the countervailing increase of retail on the Travis side goes unmentioned (they moved the auto entrance/exit from the Travis side to the Preston side).

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This is a modern highrise. Brick is really inappropriate in this context. I disagree that the museum tower is "classy" and the fact that's it's a huge brick box is most of the problem. Have always been disappointed by it. Swamplot was speculating about ground floor arrangements. I'm sure Hines sees the benefits of retail at the base and will take advantage of it if possible. I still really like the overall design and look we are seeing.

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As is so often the case with those who want only to be relentlessly negative (e.g., Swamplot), the reduction of retail on the Preston side is noted and bemoaned, but the countervailing increase of retail on the Travis side goes unmentioned (they moved the auto entrance/exit from the Travis side to the Preston side).

In earlier renderings there was retail on both streets with only a single bay taken out for the garage entrance on Travis. Now there seems to be no retail at all on Preston. I think this is what Swamplot noted, though didn't really bemoan (I'm bemoaning it though).

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In earlier renderings there was retail on both streets with only a single bay taken out for the garage entrance on Travis. Now there seems to be no retail at all on Preston. I think this is what Swamplot noted, though didn't really bemoan (I'm bemoaning it though).

 

I'm very familiar with the earlier renderings (and site plans), the new renderings, and both Swamplots and your notes and bemoanings. 

 

The new plan has very close to the same total retail frontage as the original rendering (and includes retail at the corner, some of it fronting on Preston.  Both Swamplot and you only noted the removal of retail on one side and failed to note the similar amount added to the other side.  (But one presumes that, since there is parking in the levels above the retail, none of it can count as legitimate retail space anyway...)  ;-)

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I'm very familiar with the earlier renderings (and site plans), the new renderings, and both Swamplots and your notes and bemoanings. 

 

The new plan has very close to the same total retail frontage as the original rendering (and includes retail at the corner, some of it fronting on Preston.  Both Swamplot and you only noted the removal of retail on one side and failed to note the similar amount added to the other side.  (But one presumes that, since there is parking in the levels above the retail, none of it can count as legitimate retail space anyway...)  ;-)

 

The second rendering below is the one I had in mind that shows retail on both streets:

 

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The latest rendering shown on Swamplot...

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would seem to show a net loss in retail from the earlier "Revised" rendering. The difference is not "countervailing," as you say, since the "Revised" rendering shows 5 bays of retail space on two streets plus the corner, versus 4 bays on one street plus the corner in the current rendering.

 

If as you say the corner space is retail, and not a residents' entrance, then the difference in retail space is indeed a minor one. I hope that is the case, although I suspect that my "bemoanings" bother you even more when they are for minor things than when they are for major ones. ;-)

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I'm actually a little happy it's not just a solid glass building. I think the different facades will blend in nicely with the palates of colors in the area. Also, not having as much ground floor retail might be beneficial to the retail spaces that already exist. Baby steps...

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H-Town Man, in the revised rendering (the second of the ones colored by a third grader) I don't see any garage entrance.  I agree the retail wraps all of the way around which would be awesome, but unless I am missing it, they forgot to cut out the portion that would have to go for the entrance.

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H-Town Man, in the revised rendering (the second of the ones colored by a third grader) I don't see any garage entrance.  I agree the retail wraps all of the way around which would be awesome, but unless I am missing it, they forgot to cut out the portion that would have to go for the entrance.

 

It's there on the far right end.

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You'd figure that Hines would jump at the chance to make a little extra money by renting out space on the bottom for businesses.  Hell, I'd be happy for a Cell store store there.

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As Swamplot noted, it seems like they've taken out the ground floor retail that appeared to be on Preston Street in the initial renderings.

 

A propos of this, I want to make some negative comments about this project, since all we've done so far is shower gratitude on Hines:

 

1. Looks kind of stumpy.

2. The glass treatment on the facade gives it a sleek, yuppie feel more appropriate for Uptown. The historic district ideally deserves a full masonry treatment, something classy like the Museum Tower.

3. The horizontal bands on the upper floors remind me of those scrolling thin green lines on old tv's, pre-1990. The vertical brick pilasters on the lower floors look nice; why not something more like this further up?

4. If the corner entrance area is a grand residents' entrance and not retail as I suspect, it's a wasted opportunity. Prominent corner retail and side retail with potential for outdoor restaurant seating would be fantastic here. Residents do not need a giant lobby to come into. If you're going to do ground floor retail, might as well go all the way and do something amazing.

 

One Park Place already looks like Museum Tower.

 

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1) any idea for a time table on this?
 

 

2) I would put retail on the bottom floor, on Travis St

 

 

I walked around downtown tonight. I visited Frank's pizzeria (mmmmmmmm) after stopping y the Red Cat to see a dear friend perform. Frank's was busy, even at midnight., so retail would work here  :)

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