Graystone Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 This is good news! thanks Triton. I will have to get some top down pics when I am back at work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) Honestly, I think this building is going to be so cool. Not only does it have the amenity rich residential units that downtown sorely needs, it is an amazing compromise between historic and modern, with solid street presence. We have needed this for a long time. I hope other developers take notice. This needs to be a huge success.So happy it's happening! Edited September 6, 2014 by Avossos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkp5 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Great news! This is the residential project I am most excited about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Since it does appear that this project is moving into the construction phase, it once again shoes me how little I know about large construction projects. I would have bet you $100 that Hines would have significantly delayed ground breaking due the the competition under construction across the street. I cannot fathom that two resi hirises will be coming online across the street from each other and within a few months of each other and trying to lease, about 700 luxury units or so to the identical demographic.At this point, it is best if I just shut-up, admire the guts it takes to be a real estate developer, and leave the building economics to the pros.:: bows::::exits:: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I bet if Hines had any idea that the other tower was going to actually be built and get started before they did, they would have started on their high-rise a while back instead of dragging thier feet. Downtown residential competition is only going to increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro West Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Game changer! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Hines tower is 8 storeys shorter maybe it will be completed quicker and be preleased quicker since it has better amenities, better looking neighbors and right on main. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Hines tower is 8 storeys shorter maybe it will be completed quicker and be preleased quicker since it has better amenities, better looking neighbors and right on main.This is what I was thinking. Except the better amenities part.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) I see Hines' tower and the other Market Square tower as complementing other. More folks living around Market Square will permit the lunch places to potentially open up for later hours (looking at you, Treebeards) and increase the desirability of the area. Edited September 7, 2014 by houstontexasjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Hines tower is 8 storeys shorter maybe it will be completed quicker and be preleased quicker since it has better amenities, better looking neighbors and right on main.Better amenities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Better amenities?Right? I don't see a cabana pool overlooking market square, a rooftop cantilevered pool, or an indoor basketball court in this tower..Kind of makes me wonder if Hines is going to rethink some things/ this will turn into an amenities war between the two. Probably not but it's kind of hard to imagine Hines will sit back and let their tower play second fiddle to Market Square Tower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) Right? I don't see a cabana pool overlooking market square, a rooftop cantilevered pool, or an indoor basketball court in this tower..Kind of makes me wonder if Hines is going to rethink some things/ this will turn into an amenities war between the two. Probably not but it's kind of hard to imagine Hines will sit back and let their tower play second fiddle to Market Square Tower. From what we can tell, it will be second fiddle in terms of amenities, but will look more attractive to outsiders and passersby. The retail spaces should make this a much more lively corner at street level, and the architecture is (imho) better. Views may also be marginally better, with more interesting streets around Hines' building than MST. Unless something very interesting replaces the Chronicle parking garage across the street from MST, I'm expecting that block to remain a dead zone, and the same goes for Louisiana St. Edited September 7, 2014 by H-Town Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apple addict Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 From what I understand, MST supposed to have 22,000 square feet of retail including shop restaurants and a grocery store so I would imagine that corner would be pretty lively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Cherry Demolition is on site and the whole area is fenced off, I can only guess this building will happen. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 much obliged, as per the illustrations hindesky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Cherry Demolition is on site and the whole area is fenced off, I can only guess this building will happen. Just drove by to run some errands. Unfortunately, the whole lot is still not fenced off, just the driveway that has always been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I bet if Hines had any idea that the other tower was going to actually be built and get started before they did, they would have started on their high-rise a while back instead of dragging thier feet. Downtown residential competition is only going to increase.Something tells me that BMS starting construction on the 40 story tower so suddenly and abruptly might have been intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 In other words, maybe them breaking ground without any announcements, ceremonies, hoopla, etc was a shrewd business decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 maybe places like barnaby's will be open more often and maybe more restaurants will fill the empty spaces in the area. do they have a website up yet? i'd like to live in walking distance of the theater district and light rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 From what I understand, MST supposed to have 22,000 square feet of retail including shop restaurants and a grocery store so I would imagine that corner would be pretty lively. If you're lucky, maybe they'll get a Balducci's or a Dean and DeLuca on the first floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 From what I understand, MST supposed to have 22,000 square feet of retail including shop restaurants and a grocery store so I would imagine that corner would be pretty lively. Most of that 22,000 square feet is already existing space in the parking garage on the other side of the block. Only one retail space is planned for the northern half of the block, and it won't be near the corner, which will be a giant portico for cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's already starting to get a great night life again over there. I went there Saturday night and a few of the bars actually had lines standing out the door. I was a little shocked at that since I thought it would be a little easy to get in. The big problem with that area though is the rampant amount of homeless people... some of the people look very questionable around there and at least two homeless people got kicked out of La Carafe while I was there. I definitely plan on going back to that bar area but my girlfriend was definitely nervous walking though parts of it, especially on Main... even Market Square Park had a lot of people sleeping in it and she refused to walk by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Better amenities?Well I kind of stretched the amenities based on location, but these buildings are only a block apart so my better amenities comment didn't hold up either way. They are not a mile apart so Hines being right at the train station or the bars and stuff on main isn't really that much of a plus in the amenities department.I didn't really mean amenities in the building itself as I can't recall what hines is supposed to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 It's already starting to get a great night life again over there. I went there Saturday night and a few of the bars actually had lines standing out the door. I was a little shocked at that since I thought it would be a little easy to get in. The big problem with that area though is the rampant amount of homeless people... some of the people look very questionable around there and at least two homeless people got kicked out of La Carafe while I was there. I definitely plan on going back to that bar area but my girlfriend was definitely nervous walking though parts of it, especially on Main... even Market Square Park had a lot of people sleeping in it and she refused to walk by them. You can't kick them out of public places..but it is against cities rules to sleep on public property (That on the city for not enforce the rules. You will have a hundred cops in the day time but it will be a ghost town for cops at night.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 There is an excavator onsite today, but it's not doing anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graystone Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 There is an excavator onsite today, but it's not doing anything. I can confirm. Here is a pic I took an hour ago. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Can anyone else confirm? I'm still in doubt it has been there since Saturday around noon. /s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graystone Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I've got this mental image of all of us as little grade school kids bouncing from foot to foot in anticipation of recess as we wait for activity on this site. The anticipations is so thick you'll need a chainsaw to cut through it! lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Exciting times we are living in. In 14 years living here I have not been able to experience all this development so close to each other. MST two blocks from Hine. Icing on the cake world be international tower starting next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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