UtterlyUrban Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Its a crawler crane buddy.Errrrr. What?For the uninitiated among us.... What does a crawler crane do and how is it involved in the excavation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Errrrr. What? For the uninitiated among us.... What does a crawler crane do and how is it involved in the excavation? This is a crawler crane, like the Link Belt on site: A "crawler" is just a crane on two tracks, like a tank. This is a tower crane: A tower crane is used to erect tall buildings. A crawler had various uses, but as far as why there is one on site this early, I dont know. They may use it to move equipment around the site, they may be using it to build other equipment. Or worst of all, all this construction equipment could just be there to construct the little patio thing they are building next to Franks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 to drill foundation pilings, perhaps? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Or worst of all, all this construction equipment could just be there to construct the little patio thing they are building next to Franks. I know you are probably joking but for those wondering, it can't. I asked a construction worker what the project was and he said it was a "tall apartment building." That was all I needed to know, hence that was the exact minute I said "it's under construction!!!" Plus, I could actually ride my bike on the lot on Saturday but now it is actually fenced off from every corner. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I know you are probably joking but for those wondering, it can't. I asked a construction worker what the project was and he said it was a "tall apartment building." That was all I needed to know, hence that was the exact minute I said "it's under construction!!!" Plus, I could actually ride my bike on the lot on Saturday but now it is actually fenced off from every corner.I'm going to need more evidence that this isn't all for the Frank's patio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Nevermind. Edited January 20, 2015 by Triton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 This is a crawler crane, like the Link Belt on site: A "crawler" is just a crane on two tracks, like a tank. This is a tower crane: A tower crane is used to erect tall buildings. A crawler had various uses, but as far as why there is one on site this early, I dont know. They may use it to move equipment around the site, they may be using it to build other equipment. This part I understood -- I know that there are tower cranes and all sorts of mobile cranes. What I don't understand in my original post was why the crane (any crane) is there so early. A poster above suggests that it could be for drilling pilings .... Could be but it still seems too early. Isn't their at least a few weeks of excavation or grading to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 This part I understood -- I know that there are tower cranes and all sorts of mobile cranes. What I don't understand in my original post was why the crane (any crane) is there so early. A poster above suggests that it could be for drilling pilings .... Could be but it still seems too early. Isn't their at least a few weeks of excavation or grading to do?I would think so too.But like I said, there is a number of things it could be there for so we'll just have to wait and see.Until I see a few diggers on the site, Im still not going to get my hopes up that this is actually Hines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 But I get what you're saying Urban, usually the first thing on site is a digger or two to tear up the dirt, Ive never seen a crane show up first, which makes me worried that this is for something else. For instance, arent they renovating the state national building? This crane could be for that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 There are no underground levels in this building, right..? How much do they have to excavate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Deep enough for a foundation for a 30 story building.See the Amegy or Hilcorp mat pour pics for a comparable foundation depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 True. I guess I'm thinking of the SkyHouses that practically sprouted straight out of the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I took a look at the site. They have one of the big augers laying on its side. Pile drilling seems to be a reasonable explanation for the crane. The absence of a hole is a bit confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I heard somewhere that there would be Cotswold project renovations. Could all of this be for that? [/sarcasm] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adr Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Employees at Franks confirm this is not for their space, which they think will kick off in April. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I took a look at the site. They have one of the big augers laying on its side. Pile drilling seems to be a reasonable explanation for the crane. The absence of a hole is a bit confusing.Like I said, I don't think the SkyHouses had holes either. I wonder if there are two different styles of constructing buikdings.. A mat pour, or pilings.. Or sometimes both in the case of larger buildings like 609? The office building/hotel next to the convention center started straight with pilings, no excavation.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Also of note, workers were dismantling the scaffolding on the North side of the State National building. Edited January 20, 2015 by Nate99 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Welp, that settles it, they are here to drive pilings for Hines Market Square Tower.......ITSHAPPENING.JPEG!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Wow!No digging at all for a 30 story building? Holy moly!Has anyone seen a project that skips site work and goes straight to pile driving?I have limited experience but I have not. Edited January 21, 2015 by UtterlyUrban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Wow!No digging at all for a 30 story building? Holy moly!Has anyone seen a project that skips site work and goes straight to pile driving?I have limited experience but I have not.Nah, Im 99% there will be a few diggers on site shortly. The digging and pile driving will probably be simultaneous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Ok, here we go. Courtesy of Marc Longoria (Triton), you can see over at The Catalyst by Minute Maid (28 floors), they are both drilling: and digging up the foundation at the same time: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchFan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Like I said, I don't think the SkyHouses had holes either. I wonder if there are two different styles of constructing buikdings.. A mat pour, or pilings.. Or sometimes both in the case of larger buildings like 609? The office building/hotel next to the convention center started straight with pilings, no excavation.. I walked by Skyhouse RO early on and I think I remember that they had excavated a bit of a hole, maybe about one story deep. The Belfiore had a similarly deep hole excavated, which is still visible (I'm guessing they will have one level of underground parking that will extend away from the tower). Skyhouse RO has that big parking garage, so in contrast to Belfiore, they wouldn't need to extend the pit so far away from the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) http://swamplot.com/hiness-32-story-apartment-tower-catty-corner-from-market-square-is-going-up-now/2015-01-20/ A WEEK later than promised, trucks and equipment have been moved onto the southeast corner of Preston and Travis streets downtown, ready to carve a 32-story highrise apartment building out of this surface parking lot, a reader reports (sending the above pics). Meanwhile, Ziegler Cooper’s design for the tower has grown more brick-y and a bitless sleek and Mod than renderings featured a year ago on Swamplot appeared to show. The building hascontracted since then as well: It’s now 1 floor shorter, and — at 274 units — 15 apartments lighter than indicated previously. The building will still feature street-facing retail space on the ground level of its (now) 8-floor garage podium, and a pool deck above, according to the architects: Construction is expected to be complete by 2017. Edited January 21, 2015 by DrLan34 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Is that not the same render we've had for a bit now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 You can just click on the link, you know? Anyway, it really has changed. It pretty bland now compared to the old renderings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I like it better for the area. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) You can just click on the link, you know? Anyway, it really has changed. It pretty bland now compared to the old renderings.I did click the link, you know? I even clicked it again after your comment to see if any different design was posted that we hadn't seen before. This looks the same as the design we've had for a long while now, to me?doh. just noticed Swamplot even said the "changes" are compared to the renderings they posted last year. so we have had this new design (and obviously all the "new" details) for the better part of a year. i guess Swamplot is just a little bit behind...and i agree kbates. this version definitely suits Market Square better. Edited January 21, 2015 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Is that not the same render we've had for a bit now?Swamplot says "more brick" (which must be the architectural equivalent of "more cowbell"). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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