Howard Huge Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Wow!No digging at all for a 30 story building? Holy moly!Has anyone seen a project that skips site work and goes straight to pile driving?I have limited experience but I have not.Nah, Im 99% there will be a few diggers on site shortly. The digging and pile driving will probably be simultaneous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Ok, here we go. Courtesy of Marc Longoria (Triton), you can see over at The Catalyst by Minute Maid (28 floors), they are both drilling: and digging up the foundation at the same time: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchFan Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Like I said, I don't think the SkyHouses had holes either. I wonder if there are two different styles of constructing buikdings.. A mat pour, or pilings.. Or sometimes both in the case of larger buildings like 609? The office building/hotel next to the convention center started straight with pilings, no excavation.. I walked by Skyhouse RO early on and I think I remember that they had excavated a bit of a hole, maybe about one story deep.  The Belfiore had a similarly deep hole excavated, which is still visible (I'm guessing they will have one level of underground parking that will extend away from the tower).  Skyhouse RO has that big parking garage, so in contrast to Belfiore, they wouldn't need to extend the pit so far away from the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) http://swamplot.com/hiness-32-story-apartment-tower-catty-corner-from-market-square-is-going-up-now/2015-01-20/   A WEEK later than promised, trucks and equipment have been moved onto the southeast corner of Preston and Travis streets downtown, ready to carve a 32-story highrise apartment building out of this surface parking lot, a reader reports (sending the above pics).  Meanwhile, Ziegler Cooper’s design for the tower has grown more brick-y and a bitless sleek and Mod than renderings featured a year ago on Swamplot appeared to show. The building hascontracted since then as well: It’s now 1 floor shorter, and — at 274 units — 15 apartments lighter than indicated previously.  The building will still feature street-facing retail space on the ground level of its (now) 8-floor garage podium, and a pool deck above, according to the architects:  Construction is expected to be complete by 2017. Edited January 21, 2015 by DrLan34 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Is that not the same render we've had for a bit now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 You can just click on the link, you know? Anyway, it really has changed. It pretty bland now compared to the old renderings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I like it better for the area. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) You can just click on the link, you know? Anyway, it really has changed. It pretty bland now compared to the old renderings.I did click the link, you know? I even clicked it again after your comment to see if any different design was posted that we hadn't seen before. This looks the same as the design we've had for a long while now, to me?doh. just noticed Swamplot even said the "changes" are compared to the renderings they posted last year. so we have had this new design (and obviously all the "new" details) for the better part of a year. i guess Swamplot is just a little bit behind...and i agree kbates. this version definitely suits Market Square better. Edited January 21, 2015 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Is that not the same render we've had for a bit now?Swamplot says "more brick" (which must be the architectural equivalent of "more cowbell"). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Ok, here we go.Courtesy of Marc Longoria (Triton), you can see over at The Catalyst by Minute Maid (28 floors), they are both drilling:and digging up the foundation at the same time:Yup. But, I think there was at least a couple of weeks of digging before the crane showed up. I may be wrong on that though. I just remain surprised that the crane showed up in the first wave. I don't recall seeing that before.It's very interesting though.... A 40 story building across the street excaves a huge hole and then starts building. This Hines structure of 30-ish floors seemingly will not (or maybe they will?). Fun to watch the differences in construction techniques (and equipment staging!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's possible they are drilling the piles for the hole's retention wall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It's possible they are drilling the piles for the hole's retention wallI know zero about construction. So, to me, this sounds possible but, I think they just pile drive those, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I know zero about construction. So, to me, this sounds possible but, I think they just pile drive those, don't they?Nah. 609 Main had the auger or w/e drill thing atttched to a mobile crane drilling shafts around the perimeter of the building before they did the mat pour.He could be absolutely right.. I just figured that was more for the big skyscrapers. Not a 32 story building. Then again Hines is behind both this and 609.. And they have been drilling with the same set up for a while now at the Southmore. So maybe it's just how Hines builds their towers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I know zero about construction. So, to me, this sounds possible but, I think they just pile drive those, don't they?It's two different types. Sometimes you drive them, sometimes you drill them. It probably has to do with site and soil conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It's two different types. Sometimes you drive them, sometimes you drill them. It probably has to do with site and soil conditions.Looks like we have a totally plausible hypothesis!Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 One Market SquareLocation: Downtown block bounded by Prairie, Preston, Travis and MainDeveloper: Houston-based HinesOriginal plan: For more than a year, the developer has been planning a 32-story luxury rental tower with 274 units at the site.Update: Construction started Jan. 12, and the building is scheduled for completion in the spring of 2016, the company said.http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Cracks-forming-in-commercial-real-estate-market-6037038.php#/0 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Residences at Market Square by marclongoria, on Flickr  Residences at Market Square by marclongoria, on Flickr  Residences at Market Square by marclongoria, on Flickr 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 They heard that you like cranes, so they brought in a crane to build a crane. Â 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 They heard that you like cranes, so they brought in a crane to build a crane. Â #CranePorn #HowardHuge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Money Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Heard you like Going Up, so I put some more going up in your Going Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I feel like I'm on Reddit right now. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Just got weird. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Just got weird.  This project brings out strong emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post adr Posted January 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2015 Apologies for the crappy zoom, but they have the big auger bit stood up. Â Â 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I really like that vantage point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I really like that vantage point. Almost looks more like NYC...I don't know why. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchFan Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Maybe its the reddish brick on the back of the Rice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adr Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I really like that vantage point.  It's from the Bayou Lofts (former Southern Pacific Building).  For posterity, here is pretty much the same view from 1911.  Pre-Rice Hotel.  622x350 South View 1911 by differentryana, on Flickr   At the left you see what is now the Icon Hotel.  That is Travis Street in the right 2/3rds.  Market Square Park right next to it.  I believe we can all still see Frank's Pizza. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 We can also see what ended up being wrapped into the Chron building (on the right), and the tall one in the center is the shorter version of what is now the JW Marriott. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Triton Posted January 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2015 Hopefully I am not giving too many updates of this building... went to Treebeards again today and thought I'd take a photo while I am here. Residences at Market Square by marclongoria, on Flickr   Trailer literally just came on site as well. Residences at Market Square by marclongoria, on Flickr   15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Hopefully I am not giving too many updates of this building...  100% cool with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Hopefully I am not giving too many updates of this building... went to Treebeards again today and thought I'd take a photo while I am here. Residences at Market Square by marclongoria, on Flickr   Trailer literally just came on site as well. Residences at Market Square by marclongoria, on Flickr  With so many on here complaining about oil prices and projects getting put on hold I think you might be doing a lot of people a favor with giving them peace of mind that this and other projects are still getting built because we all know that anytime a sector of the economy slips up a bit people automatically abandon multi-million dollar projects even when they are digging foundations or erecting cranes. Nope, there is still that tiny sliver of doubt.... Edited January 29, 2015 by Luminare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 With so many on here complaining about oil prices and projects getting put on hold I think you might be doing a lot of people a favor with giving them peace of mind that this and other projects are still getting built because we all know that anytime a sector of the economy slips up a bit people automatically abandon multi-million dollar projects even when they are digging foundations or erecting cranes. Nope, there is still that tiny sliver of doubt.... Not to be a killjoy here but we still don't know for certain if this isn't all for Frank's patio. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Not to be a killjoy here but we still don't know for certain if this isn't all for Frank's patio. Â 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I had to laugh. Frank didn't spend this much on his restaurant. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Â Triple facepalm if you didn't realize that was sarcastic. Â 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Triple facepalm if you didn't realize that was sarcastic. quadruple for when it was for the thread in general lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Wha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Daaaaaang, Marc - that crane's taller than Chase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I am surprised that they raised the tower crane at groundbreaking. Don't they have to drill piers and dig out a foundation first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
democide Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I am surprised that they raised the tower crane at groundbreaking. Don't they have to drill piers and dig out a foundation first? I believe that is what will happen first, do pile driving.  That is not a tower crane going up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 I believe that is what will happen first, do pile driving.  That is not a tower crane going up. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Not to be a killjoy here but we still don't know for certain if this isn't all for Frank's patio.Now that you mention it, a pizza shop beer garden that requires 50 foot deep pilings might not be a bad consolation prize. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 This will not get shelved. Hines finished out BG Group place during the recession - they'll finish this out.  This is my favorite project right now (until the MFAH expansion starts going up). I haven't had one since the JW Marriott was completed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Now that you mention it, a pizza shop beer garden that requires 50 foot deep pilings might not be a bad consolation prize.Looks like the big crane thingie has already started drilling Into the lot.So much is going on downtown. It's awesome 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brijonmang Posted January 31, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2015 From this morning...I think this was the only construction site downtown that didn't have anyone working today:  Hines Market Square by brijonmang, on Flickr  Not the site exactly, but here's the other side:  Downtown Houston by brijonmang, on Flickr  State National Bank by brijonmang, on Flickr 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Even the Alliance complex had workers? I didn't notice any last time I drove by on a Saturday.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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