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Thought the topic was worthy of it's own thread. The BSA announced the sale of the camp in September. Curious to see what “develops” in the future of Camp Strake.

 

The Courier article: http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/courier/news/conroe-mayor-excited-about-camp-strake-development/article_8d1a921b-d2d7-59d9-be7c-728cf6f72276.html

 

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In addition to minor league baseball; Chevron and Shell are rumoured to have placed bids on Camp Strake.

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I noticed that Camp Strake had a Safe Harbor agreement with Fish and Wildlife. This sale would seem to point up the toothlessness of that designation. The site for the new camp by Sam Houston National Forest is probably more interesting, species-wise. Once, the Boy Scouts taking possession of that land would have seemed like a positive development, conservation-wise, but no longer. Quite the reverse.

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They have already cleared a 50-foot swath of trees adjoining the highway and loop 336.

 

That was for a pipeline that is being laid along that path.

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I was wondering the same thing, but 50-feet is not typical for a pipeline. Additionally pipeline construction is typically closer to the roadway. The SJRA does not show water line construction in the area, maybe its sewer?

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I don't think Chevron would be one of the suitors given that they just announced a new 50 story building downtown.

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I was wondering the same thing, but 50-feet is not typical for a pipeline. Additionally pipeline construction is typically closer to the roadway. The SJRA does not show water line construction in the area, maybe its sewer?

 

50 feet is standard for a pipeline easement.

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I don't think Chevron would be one of the suitors given that they just announced a new 50 story building downtown.

i have a very hard time believing either Shell or Chevron have expressed much interest in the site save for perhaps a small chunk for a data center or disaster recovery facility.

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DOH!!!!    :blush:

 

http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/courier/news/camp-strake-to-become-next-market-street-whispers-of-an/article_68a5253f-48a2-5346-a8f7-195987aab7c0.html

 

Despite rumors of another oil & gas company campus, Conroe officials have confirmed that the Camp Strake site will be home to a commercial/residential development and possibly a minor league baseball field.

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http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2013/11/developer-closes-on-former-boy-scout.html

Houston-based Johnson Development Corp. this week inked the deal to acquire the Camp Strake property near Conroe for future development.

 

The master-planned community developer purchased the 2,046-acre site from Sam Houston Area Council Boy Scouts of America for an undisclosed price.

 

Johnson will create a comprehensive land plan to identify the parcels within the property that can be developed. The land planning process is expected to conclude in the summer of 2014.

 

 

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The suburban campus office trend is a complete mistake. Young professionals do not want to live outside an urban area, this is a huge mistake in my opinion. I can't imagine personally making that drive and living in an urban area like I want.

I hope this is purely like a research site or something.

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The suburban campus office trend is a complete mistake. Young professionals do not want to live outside an urban area, this is a huge mistake in my opinion. I can't imagine personally making that drive and living in an urban area like I want.

I hope this is purely like a research site or something.

Young professionals grow older and some become parents. They'll make enough money to take the Hardy and miss most the traffic until they start their families. That said, I hate that this is happening.

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The suburban campus office trend is a complete mistake. Young professionals do not want to live outside an urban area, this is a huge mistake in my opinion. I can't imagine personally making that drive and living in an urban area like I want.

I hope this is purely like a research site or something.

 

I highly doubt these decisions are made for the sole benefit of the less experienced and less influential employees.  This type of stuff is done at a much higher paygrade.

 

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The suburban campus office trend is a complete mistake. Young professionals do not want to live outside an urban area, this is a huge mistake in my opinion. I can't imagine personally making that drive and living in an urban area like I want.

I hope this is purely like a research site or something.

 

The Woodlands is rapidly becoming an urban area.

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I highly doubt these decisions are made for the sole benefit of the less experienced and less influential employees.  This type of stuff is done at a much higher paygrade.

 

 

I understand, but a centralized office / campus seems to have much more upside. Closer to other offices, closer to customers, closer to the 'best the city has to offer - type' ammenities.

 

As a young professional, I just don't see this as a good move. I wont argue on who decides these things, or if it is a popular decision or not. People who work for Exxon who live in Sugarland, will now either have to commute twice as long, or move. That automatically asks alot of the employees. When your central, your employees can live and maintain whichever lifestyle they want. I am sure this is not news to anyone on here. I am just shocked that this could be a trend. hopefully downtown continues to thrive with or without the relocating companies. I have been so excited for the DT development.

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I've heard that energy companies are promising telecommuting options to woo people averse to daily commutes. For instance 30% or 50% telecommuting for certain jobs. Remember that these companies are trying to appear green and environmental initiatives are a part of their big picture. Reducing commutes is something they strive for. I would argue that any plan would have included feasibility studies to reduce company-wide commute times.

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In my experience, very few jobs can be done by telecommuting.

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In my experience, very few jobs can be done by telecommuting.

 

Sure, service jobs will always require the employee to be on-location. But my experience is just the opposite of yours. On a typical day I talk to people all over the country and often from international locations. There are plenty of tools like Webex and Lync that make virtual meetings very productive. IMO, remote office working with occasional onsite visits to the office or with clients is the ideal working environment.

 

Going back to suburban campuses vs. urban offices...I agree that suburban offices seems to be going against the tide if they want to attract young professionals. But many older folks with families will want to live in the suburbs. So I think much of it depends on what kind of employees they wish to attract. I've reverse commuted before and even though it might sound better, it's still a waste of gas and trudging through suburban traffic was still a headache despite going "against the flow".

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In my experience, very few jobs can be done by telecommuting.

 

Depends on the job.  The tools available for remote collaboration now are pretty good.  I've been working with people all over the country and overseas for almost 8 years and am more productive than ever.  Biggest hurdle I've seen so far is old-school (micro) managers who want to see everyone in their cubicles.

 

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I've heard that energy companies are promising telecommuting options to woo people averse to daily commutes. For instance 30% or 50% telecommuting for certain jobs. Remember that these companies are trying to appear green and environmental initiatives are a part of their big picture. Reducing commutes is something they strive for. I would argue that any plan would have included feasibility studies to reduce company-wide commute times.

 

That's the direction companies should be moving in.  Distribute the employment centers and let as many people as possible work remotely or on a flexible schedule.  It would do wonders for peak congestion, more than any amount of public transport could.

 

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I understand, but a centralized office / campus seems to have much more upside. Closer to other offices, closer to customers, closer to the 'best the city has to offer - type' ammenities.

 

As a young professional, I just don't see this as a good move. I wont argue on who decides these things, or if it is a popular decision or not. People who work for Exxon who live in Sugarland, will now either have to commute twice as long, or move. That automatically asks alot of the employees. When your central, your employees can live and maintain whichever lifestyle they want. I am sure this is not news to anyone on here. I am just shocked that this could be a trend. hopefully downtown continues to thrive with or without the relocating companies. I have been so excited for the DT development.

 

I'd argue that you really want your residence to be closer to the "best the city has to offer" rather than the office.

 

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For those upset about the Shell campus, wait until you hear the news about Phillips 66 for this area (not Conoco Phillips).

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For those upset about the Shell campus, wait until you hear the news about Phillips 66 for this area (not Conoco Phillips).

What news would that be ?

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For those upset about the Shell campus, wait until you hear the news about Phillips 66 for this area (not Conoco Phillips).

 

Do tell!

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For those upset about the Shell campus, wait until you hear the news about Phillips 66 for this area (not Conoco Phillips).

LOL. Do any of these rumors include timelines?

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Phillips 66? The aren't downtown so there's not nearly as much to be upset about. But are they not going through with their current HQ plans?

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Phillips 66? The aren't downtown so there's not nearly as much to be upset about. But are they not going through with their current HQ plans?

Yes, they are. Broke ground in November.

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They are currently building their headquarters in WestChase. So I'm curious as to what Triton is talking about.

 

Whereabouts in Westchase are they building?

 

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Thanks.  Saw this quote in the artlcle...

 

“This property is conveniently located in the Westchase District; its location aligns with our commitment to making our company a great place to work, and should minimize the impact on the commuting time of our employees.”

 

Speaks to how some companies are viewing the importance of reducing commute times for employees.

 

Where is the HQ currently located?

 

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Thanks.  Saw this quote in the artlcle...

 

“This property is conveniently located in the Westchase District; its location aligns with our commitment to making our company a great place to work, and should minimize the impact on the commuting time of our employees.”

 

Speaks to how some companies are viewing the importance of reducing commute times for employees.

 

Where is the HQ currently located?

 

 

They are still in the ConocoPhillips complex, for the most part, although some moved out to temporary quarters in the Pinnacle Westchase building, 3010 Briarpark.

 

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You guys are looking at this all wrong. I have not said headquarters this, headquarters that. That is ya'll (I have to add my Texanness to this comment). Is the Exxon campus Exxon's new headquarters? NO. That will remain in Irving. I'm not at liberty to say anything else about Phillips 66 but most of the posters here have already mentioned the site in Westchase. Good! That should give you some idea. Without going into too much detail, you have to realize all the things that Phillips 66 has around the city of Houston. Hell, they even have a hangar at IAH. 

 

Even just to make sure I'm not spewing out hot air, I texted my source today just to completely confirm everything he told me in conversation. And with the permission from my source, without revealing the names of anyone, I'll post one small snip-it of what he said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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You didn't read the other comment right above you... Did you

 

Guilty as charged. Actually, there was a page break after the first comment on the page; I didn't realize I missed half a page of comments. I could have deleted my gratuitous comment. I also could have rinsed out my cereal bowl this morning before putting it in the sink like my wife told me to. I like to live life on the wild side.

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Guilty as charged. Actually, there was a page break after the first comment on the page; I didn't realize I missed half a page of comments. I could have deleted my gratuitous comment. I also could have rinsed out my cereal bowl this morning before putting it in the sink like my wife told me to. I like to live life on the wild side.

 

Haha.... it's okay.

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