fernz Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 The Bizjournals story most likely was referring to Hines project at Westheimer and Shepherd (old Cafe Adobe site). Technically not what I would call the Galleria area but that term has been used more loosely than "River Oaks" for decades. I had friends in college who had an apartment in the Gulfton/Bellaire/Hillcroft vicinity and would always say "Galleria Area". Good point; thanks for clarifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Who really knows what the article was referring too. Associating the apartment on Gulfton as Galleria Area" make excellent marketing sense for an area that doesn't have such a definable or positive marketable identity. The Hines development at Westheimer and Shepherd however could be marketed as "River Oaks" "Montrose" or "Upper Kirby" even. I believe that these marketing locals would more residential selling power than "Galleria Area" which could mean Gulfton. No one from Hines would call this development Galleria Area, and neither would anybody else...at least not any more. What I believe the comment is referring to is the development by the Waterwall, which is A Hines Project. And apparently as the comment was plural. It makes sense to assume that there may be more than on such development planned. Reasonable to assume. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 No one from Hines would call this development Galleria Area, and neither would anybody else...at least not any more. I very much agreed. Gulfton is at least relatively close to the Galleria. Shepherd and Westheimer is no where close to the Galleria and there are too many named areas in between to be mistaken in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Stonian Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Who really knows what the article was referring too. Associating the apartment on Gulfton as Galleria Area" make excellent marketing sense for an area that doesn't have such a definable or positive marketable identity. The Hines development at Westheimer and Shepherd however could be marketed as "River Oaks" "Montrose" or "Upper Kirby" even. I believe that these marketing locals would more residential selling power than "Galleria Area" which could mean Gulfton. No one from Hines would call this development Galleria Area, and neither would anybody else...at least not any more. What I believe the comment is referring to is the development by the Waterwall, which is A Hines Project. And apparently as the comment was plural. It makes sense to assume that there may be more than on such development planned. Reasonable to assume. My comment was not intended to be matter-of-fact, hell if I know, I was only speculating. Go back and re-read the article. It referred to the Waterwall Place development as the 4th project under development THEN mentioned three other projects (implying one in the "Galleria area", one in the Museum district and one Downtown). If they were not referring to the Cafe Adobe site, now that would be an important 5th development that they neglected to mention. Some of you commentors on Haif are too smart for your own good sometimes. Use a little deductive reasoning my friend. Additionally, this article was written by a Bizjournal's reporter and was not necessarily a marketing piece from Hines. My friends from college simply referred to their neighborhood as the 'Galleria area' as a landmark and who knows (or cares) if the apartment complex marketed it as such. So naviGUESSor.., your guess is as good as mine... Edited January 11, 2014 by HOUSTONIAN (N-ATL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 A few more details, follow-up meeting being scheduled. Hines Meeting 20131125 .pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Fence going up on the site this morning along San Jacinto and Southmore. I don't know if the residential leases are expired yet, but would assume they could take down the eyelash institute building first. Edited March 3, 2014 by nate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 although some have managed to extend their stay my daughter said they were all supposed to be out by this last christmas.they left on the first of January. Also took some fine architectural parting gifts for memories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I thought this was still up in the air in terms of community issues / permits / etc. Last time i checked Hines was doing some outreach on this to community... I think it will be a cool building either way. A step to bridge the hole between TMC and DT... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleareaction Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Taken earlier today, they have the three houses in question all fenced off. A guy was running into one of the residences, so they must not be completely closed? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Has anything happened on this project lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Has anything happened on this project lately? Still fenced off when I rode by last weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Has anything happened on this project lately? Just photographic proof.... from today. 2014-04-29 17.14.05 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 24-floors, 233 units. Abatement and demolition of the houses on site will begin within the next 30 days (late June/early July). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 Guess this is the best update I can provide... Nada! 2014-06-07 16.52.47 by marclongoria, on Flickr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 A rendering from a different angle http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=2542 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 The design is not offensive. Reminds me of Houston House because it's all balconies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 The design isn't offensive so much as the precise location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I've seen towers proposed for much more "offensive" locations. This one isn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm not going to advocate for a race to the bottom. There is nearby property, however, that does not require scraping off several very nice older houses and sticking a fork into the Asia House views, and which would still be nicely accessible for the purposes of this project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm not going to advocate for a race to the bottom. There is nearby property, however, that does not require scraping off several very nice older houses and sticking a fork into the Asia House views, and which would still be nicely accessible for the purposes of this project.Well, these are the owners that were willing to sell. You don't think Hines approached owners of vacant land first so they could save the cost of demolition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I'm not going to advocate for a race to the bottom. There is nearby property, however, that does not require scraping off several very nice older houses and sticking a fork into the Asia House views, and which would still be nicely accessible for the purposes of this project.I don't understand a "race to the bottom", but there are almost no vacant properties in the museum district (I just skimmed satellite view and could only find one or two partial blocks. The nicest house on that block IMO is the one from 2007. The white one to the right of that one is alright but the lots on the south side weren't that nice. True, there is one rock garden balcony at the Asia house that looks toward this block, but it's on the north side so it will still be looking over the 2007 house and a pocket park beyond that before getting to the 7 story midrises the next block over.Well, these are the owners that were willing to sell. You don't think Hines approached owners of vacant land first so they could save the cost of demolition?This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'm not going to advocate for a race to the bottom. There is nearby property, however, that does not require scraping off several very nice older houses and sticking a fork into the Asia House views, and which would still be nicely accessible for the purposes of this project. Completely agree. I'm going to miss these beautiful homes, whether the owners agreed to it or not. I remember the first day I rode my bike down Caroline years ago and marveled at the massive 5-story home there at Oakdale. I can't even imagine how many rooms the home has. The thing is you can just tell there was so much history in that home that's now going to be gone for a city that could care less about preservation, especially well-maintained beautiful homes such as these. Almost everyone likes Hines here and I certainly do as well, but out of all of the locations for this great tower, I honestly wish they picked somewhere else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Completely agree.I'm going to miss these beautiful homes, whether the owners agreed to it or not. I remember the first day I rode my bike down Caroline years ago and marveled at the massive 5-story home there at Oakdale. I can't even imagine how many rooms the home has. The thing is you can just tell there was so much history in that home that's now going to be gone for a city that could care less about preservation, especially well-maintained beautiful homes such as these. Almost everyone likes Hines here and I certainly do as well, but out of all of the locations for this great tower, I honestly wish they picked somewhere else.Oh I forgot about the 5 story. I liked that one too. Is that between the 2007 and the townhouse apartment things?I agree, it's a shame we are losing old homes, but obviously the demand for living in the museum district and near a rail line is desirable. If it weren't Hines building a residential tower on 1/2 a block, it could of been a developer bulldozing multiple blocks to build the equivilent amount of mid rise apartments, similar to the development just west of this (though I don't remember what was on those blocks prior to the midrises). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Is that between the 2007 and the townhouse apartment things? Hmmmm... possibly. The 5-story home is almost directly across from Asia House. It's not the two homes with the orange and red roofs, but the massive home with the silver metal roof. I believe there was a KHOU, KTRK, or KPRC news article about the people leaving the home. Kinda sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hmmmm... possibly. The 5-story home is almost directly across from Asia House. It's not the two homes with the orange and red roofs, but the massive home with the silver metal roof. I believe there was a KHOU, KTRK, or KPRC news article about the people leaving the home. Kinda sad.Oops. That's the garden/townhome/apartment things. I didn't realize that was the same building the awning parking was a part of. I like it from the Caroline side, but the south side the awning in front for parking reminds me of a cheap apartment complex. If I'm not mistaken a poster on here's daughter lived in one of them/had to move out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I'm not going to advocate for a race to the bottom. There is nearby property, however, that does not require scraping off several very nice older houses and sticking a fork into the Asia House views, and which would still be nicely accessible for the purposes of this project.I agree. One nice thing about zoning is that it would force a building like this onto its appropriate location on the Fannin or Main corridors, and not let it encroach into a nice low rise neighborhood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownproud Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I think it is great something else is being built directly along the rail. And it's great location for the park, museums, and easy access to med center/downtown. Am I sorry to see some old houses go? sure, but high rise condos are much rarer in this city than old houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Oops. That's the garden/townhome/apartment things. I didn't realize that was the same building the awning parking was a part of. I like it from the Caroline side, but the south side the awning in front for parking reminds me of a cheap apartment complex. If I'm not mistaken a poster on here's daughter lived in one of them/had to move out.Yes cloud713 my daughter lived there in the large apartment building. It had one of the first elevators and a very interesting series of porches on the back side. She and her husband moved over to the two story apartment between the house not sold and the apartment building. Both buildings had many add on apartments and interesting spaces. Their apartment faced the west end of the Asia House. The rock garden faced south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Designed by Munoz + Albin, The Southmore is a 25-story for-rent multifamily development that will contain 290,292 square feet, 259 luxury urban-style residences and six levels of parking.Construction will begin in July of 2014. General Contractor, Urban Oaks Builders, expects occupancy of the first units in March 2016, with final completion in December 2016. http://www.hines.com/property/detail.aspx?id=2542 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 19, 2014 Author Share Posted July 19, 2014 Saw construction leaving this just when I rode past on my bike... 2014-07-19 14.11.00 by marclongoria, on Flickr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 And so it begins... 2014-08-03 14.49.31 by marclongoria, on Flickr 2014-08-03 14.50.09 by marclongoria, on Flickr 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Saw construction leaving this just when I rode past on my bike...Well, demolition, anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lot cleared: http://swamplot.com/daily-demolition-report-lightning-round/2014-08-14/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 2014-08-23 18.29.46 by marclongoria, on Flickr 2014-08-23 18.29.33 by marclongoria, on Flickr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://www.munozalbin.com/58-museum-tower.html 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoninATX Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Is this project U/C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Dang Urbannizer, you are on a roll today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Is this project U/C? Noticed a digger on site yesterday. Today, it was in operation, there were workers, and portable toilets installed. I'd say it is U/C. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 http://www.munozalbin.com/58-museum-tower.html Interesting reflection of downtown.... Don't know if that's the right angle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Interesting reflection of downtown.... Don't know if that's the right angle.It's definitely not.. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I went by today and they are digging. I spoke with one of the crew and they said serious excavation will start Monday morning.Picture to follow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Interesting reflection of downtown.... Don't know if that's the right angle. I was just getting ready to comment on the same thing! Funny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I was just getting ready to comment on the same thing! Funny... That's the Medical Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) That's the Medical Center.Yeah but the buikdings reflected in the facade are downtown, including the Bank of America tower and Chase tower which can only be seen like that from the west. Edited November 7, 2014 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTOWN LIVE Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 That would have to be the North face of the building (reflecting downtown), with a TMC tower in the background to the South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 That would have to be the North face of the building (reflecting downtown), with a TMC tower in the background to the South.Yeah but it's reflecting the west side of downtown when it is facing the south side of downtown/looking north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Even if the tower were along Buffalo Bayou and this were the east facing view, the reflection of downtown would still need to be reversed to due to it being just that.. a reflection. Right now it's shown as you would see it face on from buffalo bayou park. Not reversed for the reflection, and definitely not as seen from the museum district. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Is this apartments or condos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 It's not just coincidence that they are the two most iconic Hines buildings downtown which are being projected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I went by today and they are digging. I spoke with one of the crew and they said serious excavation will start Monday morning. Picture to follow. From Bobruss: Southmore by brijonmang, on Flickr Southmore by brijonmang, on Flickr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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