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Yeah the residential tower sucks. I spent the least amount of time on that part since it doesn't exist and I had nothing to go off of.

Thanks though. I got bored waiting on some friends to get back in town so I sketched that up since we were discussing ways to improve GS. I had plans to sketch out other venues for the roof of GRB, and Houston Center but I may hold off on those after monarchs response. Lol

 

Right on with the light on!

 

I actually thought that rendering was really good...

 

Yikes!

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Hotel Alessandra by Marc longoria, on Flickr

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Personally, I like the sketch and think the ideas in it are interesting (although I don't think a mini-golf thing is a good idea, regardless, it certainly is an interesting one). About the only thing that surprises me about your idea and sketch is the odd reaction it has triggered in some.

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Heh, yeah the mini golf and laser tag are a little questionable (I still think mini golf in the middle of a sea of highrises would be pretty sweet. Maybe the course could even be like a mini urban city). I don't think downtown is family friendly enough/touristy enough yet to attract those kind of crowds. Though you've got to start somewhere.. I think GreenStreet/the new touristy shopping district is the best bet.

In a way, i was basically just showing that the roof could be repurposed for other venues/entertainment, since GreenStreet doesn't have much more room for expansion. Maybe in another 10 years when they renovate the place again and there is less available land downtown/land prices have gone up even higher.

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Heh, yeah the mini golf and laser tag are a little questionable (I still think mini golf in the middle of a sea of highrises would be pretty sweet. Maybe the course could even be like a mini urban city). I don't think downtown is family friendly enough/touristy enough yet to attract those kind of crowds. Though you've got to start somewhere.. I think GreenStreet/the new touristy shopping district is the best bet.

In a way, i was basically just showing that the roof could be repurposed for other venues/entertainment, since GreenStreet doesn't have much more room for expansion. Maybe in another 10 years when they renovate the place again and there is less available land downtown/land prices have gone up even higher.

 

Playing laser tag in an outdoor urban environment, you can call the attraction "Urban Warfare," that should sell.

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Playing laser tag in an outdoor urban environment, you can call the attraction "Urban Warfare," that should sell.

Lol, no. If they decided to go for a more family oriented venue, and thought laser tag could be desirable, it would obviously be inside in one of the available places for lease in GS. I've never seen laser tag outside. Geez.. You'd think we weren't allowed to have opinions on how to better these developments were following.. Last I heard we all agreed GreenStreet could use some improvement.

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haif members,

 

as i take a moment to canvas over "triton's" simple and yet perfect illustrations, i cannot help but think just how "brilliant" a strategy that "midway cos" was, in purchasing the bitter functioning "houston pavilions".  

 

what a difference a few month's of "rebranding" can actually make to a entertainment venue that was once upon the wane.  GREENSTREET, as we are now calling it...   shall now become positioned to ensure that houston may forget about the upsurge regarding the downtown's of both dallas as well as austin, tx.  once the very recently announced "hotel alessandra" comes into fruition...  there shall be no stopping downtown houston!

 

and yet, thanks to the generosity and expertise of such haif members such as "triton" vs "larry dierker's" wonderful photo's...   we shall now be able to just sit back and fantasize, at just how future development as per GREENSTREET shall now evolve into reality.  this is gonna be fun!     

 

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what?  pal, i have read quite a few of your post over time.  didn't realize that you were the all time expert in regards to comprehension.

 

You seem to have taken offense where none was intended?

 

I was just a little unsure of what you meant in your post that I specifically asked about.  Perhaps I shall endeavor to read again what so confounded me the first time?

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apologies are in order, that you were so "confounded".   i was only paying a compliment to both "triton vs larry dierker" as per their wonderful photos / illustrations.  both of these gents, are true "assets" to haif houston as per their dedication.

 

You seem to have taken offense where none was intended?

 

I was just a little unsure of what you meant in your post that I specifically asked about.  Perhaps I shall endeavor to read again what so confounded me the first time?

 


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I barely noticed the white lighting on the building which is awesome. However, I must add Gensler should consider making these white lights multicolor so as to add a bit of flare to Greenstreet right? I mean what better way to show people Greenstreet exists with lights, although media publicity wouldn't be a bad thing either.

 

EDIT: I am looking at white lighting on those renderings right? If I am seriously mistaken please forgive me.

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It does look like the line that wraps around is lit, but I think that's just the rendering.

 

If it is lit, then I think keeping it white would be classy.

 

Normally  I'm all for colors, but I think it might cheapen this design somewhat.

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It does look like the line that wraps around is lit, but I think that's just the rendering.

 

If it is lit, then I think keeping it white would be classy.

 

Normally  I'm all for colors, but I think it might cheapen this design somewhat.

 

You have a point there. Nice hotel+ ugly lighting= sad haifers :P

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I think a little lighting goes a long way.  A properly illuminated building is elegant at night without being ostentatious - I like a few of the Dallas Downtown buildings at night but there are too many lit up.

 

And yes, the people on here who post photos and take the time out of their day to get information for the rest of us on here are indeed great members (speaking to monarch) - thanks for clarifying for me.  I was in a sort of blur yesterday (Monday's!).

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@ HoustonBoy:  Somebody's got to like it...might as well be you.  You're not crazy; your perceptions are different.  

 

(my Kumbaya moment for the day)

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Here's how it was described in the Chronicle:  To create more "connectivity," landscapers will install midblock crossings on Fannin and San Jacinto using stone pavers, he said. Those streets will be raised to be level with the sidewalk. Cars will still cross those streets, so some safety features will be added, Boss said.

 

I'm really surprised Public Works okayed that. Heck, they required HAWKs along Navigation to cross two lanes of one-way traffic to get the esplanade.

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Got this press release this afternoon.  Plus big renderings, which are always nice.

 


Midway in Partnership with Houston-Based Valencia Group to Debut a New Luxury Hotel Brand at Downtown Houston’s GreenStreet
Contemporary, 25-story hotel tower to include sleek finishes, a lavish outdoor terrace and sweeping views of the downtown skyline
 
HOUSTON, TEXAS (March 26, 2014) – Houston-based Midway, a fully integrated real estate investment and development firm, in partnership with Valencia Group, an award-winning hospitality management and development company, announced plans today for Hotel Alessandra. The luxury property will anchor downtown Houston’s GreenStreet, a mixed-use destination located just steps from key downtown destinations such as the George R. Brown Convention Center, Toyota Center and Discovery Green park.
 
 
Although Hotel Alessandra’s design is still evolving, the contemporary-designed property is expected to feature approximately 225 elegant rooms and suites with oversized bathrooms, as well as premier meeting and event spaces equipped with the latest technological amenities.
 

 

 

Seems like nobody noticed this from the press release. Hopefully it's just speaking of interior design, not the outside.

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I agree Triton. That embassy suites belongs in The suburbs of Beaumont. It amazes me when someone builds something that's already dated looking before it's even finished. GRRRR.

That building is a shame. The building looks marginal but the use of that prime lot for a bunch of private surface parking essentially on discovery green is utterly foolish design. Opportunity lost.

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I agree about the Embassy Suites ... a really wasted opportunity.   But, I imagine if the downtown hotel market is as tight as they say, the owners are probably doing quite well.  Frankly, I wouldn't expect them to give a hoot about our opinions on the design.

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That building is a shame. The building looks marginal but the use of that prime lot for a bunch of private surface parking essentially on discovery green is utterly foolish design. Opportunity lost.

No opportunity has been lost in connection with the surface parking by the Embassy Suites. The opportunity is still there. (Embassy Suites does not own the parking lot.)

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I think the embassy suites is fine. Had we never seen the first rendering, people would have been fine with it. We just got our hopes built up to something better.

And as 19514 says, another development could easily cover up the backside.

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Never the less it is sad to see such a disappointing building on the edge of Discovery Green. Hopefully someone does come along soon and develop the other part of the block. Its efforts like this design by developers like these that makes me long for aesthetics police.

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No, we are just killing them when it comes to downtown redevelopment. And they are trying with all their might to make "Uptown" Dallas the happening spot, when in reality, its pretty lame

 

Not that this topic has anything to do with Dallas. There is a Dallas subsection on the forum if that is what you want to discuss.

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I think the embassy suites is fine. Had we never seen the first rendering, people would have been fine with it. We just got our hopes built up to something better.

And as 19514 says, another development could easily cover up the backside.

 

It would be easy enough to put something on the east side of the block, either a hotel or residential tower, but to have it also wrap around the north side of the Embassy Suites would be very difficult for the full height of the building. Maybe if you just had a low-rise wing on the wrap around that would be connected to the main building or put the parking garage there, but the gap is too narrow for a tower to cover both sides without it being very costly. I think park goers will be looking at the north side of the Embassy Suites for as long as it stands there.

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