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I thought construction wasn't supposed to start until next year?  Or am I mistaken. 

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Strolled through there today and there is absolutely zero signs of any work,.

 

Work requires permits. The permit process is slow.

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Well I would think they would paint or redecorate or something in the interim to show that there's movement on the project. 

 

I am following this project closer because I think it could really have a huge impact on DT.

 

But if they don't turn it inside out and put everything facing out to the streets on the street level I don't think it will work. It's my observation that women do not like to walk through the Pavillions because it is very enclosed. Which is understandable.

 

 

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Acc to the HBJ article:

 

 

"Construction will begin this month and is scheduled to take about six to nine months to complete. The project will remain open during construction."

 

 

That was April 4th. So just looking at it from the street it appears the schedule has been pushed back. Already discouraging (to me.)

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rumor has it that they are (or at least were) looking at adding a hotel-component. no idea where it would go.

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Another month, still ZERO activity.

 

I predict they are just going to build out for office space in the empty areas. There won't be any new retail or redevelopment. They know there isn't enough support for it. 

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I believe they stated last week that part of the reason they were doing away with the food trucks was because the redevelopment was starting up full swing.

 

I think we should begin to see work being done relatively soon.

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We'll see.

 

Don't get me wrong I would LOVE for them to come out with a new and improved dt destination. I'm all for it. I would be there a lot. 

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paste the link into a google search box.  Then click on the first search result.

 

i just tried that already. didn't wwork

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paste the link into a google search box.  Then click on the first search result.

 

Actually, what you have to do is open the link, then copy the HEADLINE of the article. Then paste taht headline into google search. Click on the first result and you should get the entire article. Houston19514 simply mistyped link for headline.

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For some reason I feel like Ive seen all these before.

Anyhow, I think I see JUMBOTRONS!!!

(cue the anti-jumbotron people lol)

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Actually, what you have to do is open the link, then copy the HEADLINE of the article. Then paste taht headline into google search. Click on the first result and you should get the entire article. Houston19514 simply mistyped link for headline.

 

FWIW, I routinely do it be copying and pasting the link.

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Thanks TowerSpotter, I did not ask "what" are jumbotrons. I know what they are. I asked where are the jumbotrons? I don't see them in the renderings. I see something that looks like a banner or a sign.  I was hoping that the new owners were going to install jumbotrons but these renderings don't look very conclusive.

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Thanks TowerSpotter, I did not ask "what" are jumbotrons. I know what they are. I asked where are the jumbotrons? I don't see them in the renderings. I see something that looks like a banner or a sign. I was hoping that the new owners were going to install jumbotrons but these renderings don't look very conclusive.

Youre right, they could be just big banners.

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the second to last one seems to have one at the upper right hand area.

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Youre right, they could be just big banners.

 

Well to me it kind of looks like a Superscreen too. At least from the top right and bottom left renderings.

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Hanging out at HP several times over the years I've always felt the best place for a giant screen would be on the House of Blues wall facing east towards Discovery Green and the Toyota Center.

I think part of their demise was failing to capitalize on the huge crowds coming in and out of Discovery Green, the GRB and Toyota Center. If they had a giant led screen there it would be seen by not only DG, GRB, and TC but also the Hilton, Embassy Suites etc.

They could use the screen to:

- Play live teasers of whoever is performing at the moment

- List their upcoming shows

- List other greenstreet store LOGOS

- List all other greenstreet programming, tweets, facebook, etc.

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Hanging out at HP several times over the years I've always felt the best place for a giant screen would be on the House of Blues wall facing east towards Discovery Green and the Toyota Center.

I think part of their demise was failing to capitalize on the huge crowds coming in and out of Discovery Green, the GRB and Toyota Center. If they had a giant led screen there it would be seen by not only DG, GRB, and TC but also the Hilton, Embassy Suites etc.

They could use the screen to:

- Play live teasers of whoever is performing at the moment

- List their upcoming shows

- List other greenstreet store LOGOS

- List all other greenstreet programming, tweets, facebook, etc.

 

Or even advertisements.

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Umm, just out of curiosity, how different do these renderings look from what's already there?  I mean, aside from the giant "GREENSTREET" sign facing Main Street.  

 

I'm hoping for the best, in any case.  I can't help feeling that a stronger connection to new residential and hotel properties nearby would provide the biggest boost to this project, at least outside of the M-F 9-5 times.  I guess that would be more likely if something new were developed next door.  

 

The last think I want to see is that GS became another white elephant a la the Holiday Inn / Days Inn / Heaven on Earth Inn.

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Umm, just out of curiosity, how different do these renderings look from what's already there?  I mean, aside from the giant "GREENSTREET" sign facing Main Street.  

 

I'm hoping for the best, in any case.  I can't help feeling that a stronger connection to new residential and hotel properties nearby would provide the biggest boost to this project, at least outside of the M-F 9-5 times.  I guess that would be more likely if something new were developed next door.  

 

The last think I want to see is that GS became another white elephant a la the Holiday Inn / Days Inn / Heaven on Earth Inn.

 

I'd say a little different. Looks like their going to change the color scheme, add some tree's, I can't tell if their just adding banners or superscreens but that will be new, and also looks like they are going to add more decorations to the outside. Also I think some shade will be provided there. 

 

 

Edit: In my opinion it's going to look better than before.

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I'd say a little different. Looks like their going to change the color scheme, add some tree's, I can't tell if their just adding banners or superscreens but that will be new, and also looks like they are going to add more decorations to the outside. Also I think some shade will be provided there. 

 

 

Edit: In my opinion it's going to look better than before.

I was hoping the changes would be more than just cosmetic, skin-deep ones.  But, if they do that, and also get more tenants that drew more people, it would be great.

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They are enlarging the center court.  Along Dallas, they will be adding sidewalk seating/cafe space.  They will also be adding fountains and, as was mentioned more greenery.  Also, they will be adding mid-block pedestrian crossings.

 

I have great confidence in the the new owners.  GreenStreet should have a good future.

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The main difference between the renderings and what's currently there, is that there are actually people walking around in the renderings, lol. 

 

Plus some minor changes to the façade. 

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i hope if jumbotrons are in the plans, i hope its not like those boring- stillscreen ones that are on the outside of the Toyota Center.

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i hope if jumbotrons are in the plans, i hope its not like those boring- stillscreen ones that are on the outside of the Toyota Center.

Amen to that

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do i remember correctly that they said they were going to widen the courtyard areas? if so, i wonder how they plan to do that without major structural changes.

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Didn't dig too deep but this is what I saw 

 

"the courtyard in the middle block will be expanded to allow for events."

 

Only the middle one of the three it seems.

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do i remember correctly that they said they were going to widen the courtyard areas? if so, i wonder how they plan to do that without major structural changes.

 

Who said there are not going to be any major structural changes?

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Who said there are not going to be any major structural changes?

i assumed they werent since it said the tenants wouldnt be effected. i now see in the Chron blog post that they are in fact removing some of the building on the inside of the middle block. pretty cool, though i wish they could of expanded the part along main street too so the inner courtyard area had a more open feel to bring in more pedestrians from Main to bring into the events in the courtyard. with them only expanding the middle i feel like it may still be isolated and not get as much attention. maybe some big LEDs along main and going into the courtyard could help bring in people by letting them know about events.

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Didn't dig too deep but this is what I saw

Only the middle one of the three it seems.

Correct: Only the middle of the 3 blocks will have an expanded courtyard.

The fencing in the front (main st) entrence is for construction of a decorative fountain.

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Since it has begun I think we should have the mod change the title to "Houston Pavilions to Greenstreet Renovation" or something along those lines.

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