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^ The gap at its narrowest point is what, about 50 feet?  And it is at its narrowest for literally only a point, and rather rapidly expands from that narrowest point.  Constructing a high-rise around that does not strike me as particularly difficult or costly.  I think we have at least one high-rise building tower in Houston that is only about 50 feet wide for its entire height.  Perhaps I am overestimating the size of the gap at the narrowest point.

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^ The gap at its narrowest point is what, about 50 feet?  And it is at its narrowest for literally only a point, and rather rapidly expands from that narrowest point.  Constructing a high-rise around that does not strike me as particularly difficult or costly.  I think we have at least one high-rise building tower in Houston that is only about 50 feet wide for its entire height.  Perhaps I am overestimating the size of the gap at the narrowest point.

 

Perhaps you are right, but that building is probably 50 feet wide and rectangular, rather than having to do some sort of odd curve. If you look at the footprint of this from an aerial view, it's a pretty odd shape, and building a highrise in that shape would add a lot to the cost. I think it's much more likely a developer would put a high rise on the eastern side of the block, either rectangular or trapezoidal in footprint, and use the northwest portion either for parking or low-rise amenities, or both.

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Lol well yeah the ritz would obviously have it's back facing the embassy/be one sided, but you may be right. I'm just going off of the location they were supposably scouting. Since it seems like international tower isn't going to happen I would love to see a ritz right there on market square. I think a hotel would be a nice component to that area.

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No opportunity has been lost in connection with the surface parking by the Embassy Suites. The opportunity is still there. (Embassy Suites does not own the parking lot.)

Wow! That is great news! I didn't know that the parking lot was under different ownership! That holds hope that something terrific could be put there!

Thanks!

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Wow! That is great news! I didn't know that the parking lot was under different ownership! That holds hope that something terrific could be put there!

Thanks!

Yep.. It would be the perfect payback for embassy suites ruining the disco green skyline by putting the ass end of an even taller Ritz blocking all of the embassy's east facing rooms views.

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"greenstreet" now with it's proposition as per "hotel alessandra" just cannot leave my mindset.  i simply feel that, if "midway cos" proceeds upon the same first class fashion, that they have openly demonstrated as per their highly successful "city centre" development...  this much anticipated "greenstreet" concept, shall conform into a gold mine.  

 

"greenstreet" if infused with the appropriate form of retail vs restaurants, etc..  could very well kick start the new wave of retail activity, that has been long awaited as per the entire downtown region.   the concept, "hotel alessandra" shall indeed become the leading catalyst as per this growth prospect.  simple words alone, shall not describe the open potential that this particular project shall offer downtown houston.

 

"greenstreet" once it's completed, shall become the new essential.

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Wow! That is great news! I didn't know that the parking lot was under different ownership! That holds hope that something terrific could be put there!

Thanks!

 

I was just at the ES site and the remaining parking lot space behind the hotel is very small. To hold hope that something other than a patch of grass or a flowerbed could be put in there is wishful thinking at best.

 

Sorry ES won this round.

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I was just at the ES site and the remaining parking lot space behind the hotel is very small. To hold hope that something other than a patch of grass or a flowerbed could be put in there is wishful thinking at best.

 

Sorry ES won this round.

 

You must have not have seen the very limited amount of space Astoria is being built on or the proposed building on block 98 ;)  

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You must have not have seen the very limited amount of space Astoria is being built on or the proposed building on block 98 ;)  

 

So we've confirmed that the owners of ES do NOt own the parking lot near their hotel?

If they are planning on throwing up a 30+ building on that small part of block 98 then they can definitely make something work next to ES

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I'm no construction worker or engineer, but the space is so small that it would bump up against the ES building during the groundbreaking process alone. The Astoria situation is a little bit different, it isn't literally 10 feet away from the other development.

 

 

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I'm no construction worker or engineer, but the space is so small that it would bump up against the ES building during the groundbreaking process alone. The Astoria situation is a little bit different, it isn't literally 10 feet away from the other development.

Take a look at the lot on Google Earth, and then the size of the block that the Residential Tower is going on the "Block 98" project.

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So we've confirmed that the owners of ES do NOt own the parking lot near their hotel?

If they are planning on throwing up a 30+ building on that small part of block 98 then they can definitely make something work next to ES

They don't need to own the lot to control it, there are other ways to make sure they keep the parking and/or the views. They can have a long-term lease, or even own the air rights.

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A few more details on the hotel:

 

http://www.archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=7309

 

“Iconic” is the word that design architect Kap Malik of Gensler emphasized while describing Hotel Alessandra, the latest luxury accommodation set to rise in downtown Houston. Developer Midway

 

Companies commissioned the 25-story, 225-room hotel, which will also feature retail, residential, and entertainment space. Slated for completion in time for Superbowl LI in 2017, the project’s sleek design “looks toward the future,” said Malik.

Client check-in is in a 24th-floor sky lobby. A wine bar, pool deck with a retractable roof, and fine dining restaurant on the 25th floor immerse guests in both luxury and a panoramic view of the city. The ground floor boasts conference facilities. Malik designed the hotel with “something on every level” and each room will be decked out with the latest technology.

Glass ceilings permit guests in the lobby to see through to the top floor restaurant. Visual continuity is a motif that Malik incorporated throughout the design, most noticeably with the use of the “eyebrow,” a unifying design element that stretches from the top of the hotel to the bottom. The swooping line, highlighted at night by LEDs, seeks to communicate elegance and luxury.

Malik’s use of exterior materials dovetails with the eyebrow’s profile, with rough textures graduating to more delicate surfaces up the elevation. The base of the building incorporates stone, glass, and metal, while the tower skin features dichroic glass that emits colored hues when struck by light. The result is a unique pattern that changes throughout the course of each day—a kaleidoscopic effect that offers a uniform brilliance to the whole design.

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I have to ride the elevator to the 24th floor to check in? And then board it again to go to my floor. Ridiculous.

There are a number of urban hotels that have checkin levels requiring an elevator ride. I can think of one in Chicago and South Florida. However, I don't recall any inmy personal experience having a checkin level at the top of the building.

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what they did was built up the street with block long ramps, and put in pavers on top of concrete so they're at sidewalk level.

they tore out the street one lane at a time, both Fannin and San Jacinto

This.

I feel like they should put some more bumps before approaching the new brick work because I feel like there's nothing warning motorists that it's a pedestrian crosswalk.

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This.

I feel like they should put some more bumps before approaching the new brick work because I feel like there's nothing warning motorists that it's a pedestrian crosswalk.

My pure guess is that they will install either those little cones that say "state law: stop for pedestrians in crosswalk" in the road at street level and/or they will mount some kind of yellow blinking light and sign over the roadway (attached to the overhead walkway maybe??)...

I would be curious to know if they actually remove the current crosswalks at the current lights and "require" all pedestrians to us these crossings instead.

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My pure guess is that they will install either those little cones that say "state law: stop for pedestrians in crosswalk" in the road at street level and/or they will mount some kind of yellow blinking light and sign over the roadway (attached to the overhead walkway maybe??)...

I would be curious to know if they actually remove the current crosswalks at the current lights and "require" all pedestrians to us these crossings instead.

 

Hm, no thanks. If a person is walking along the exterior block headed somewhere they shouldn't have to go to the middle of the development to cross.

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Nice, but is the city actually going to install pedestrian crosswalk signs? If we're going to encourage pedestrians to cross there, let's protect them.

 

I thought for sure they would use those ding dang fancy in the road type flashing red pedestrian lights used under the Galleria, Light Rail crossings, and the crosswalks in the Theater District.

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Who said anything about splurge? Every splurge hotel in this city has the lobby on the first or second floor afaik.

I wouldn't call staying at any of the current hotels in downtown "splurging". Most luxury hotels (read:majority/all/whatever) have this set up. Houston hasn't had any luxury hotel like this yet so it's a pretty new thing and I can understand the confusion. 

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I wouldn't call staying at any of the current hotels in downtown "splurging". Most luxury hotels (read:majority/all/whatever) have this set up. Houston hasn't had any luxury hotel like this yet so it's a pretty new thing and I can understand the confusion. 

 

This same owner operates a 5 star luxury hotel in Houston already, Hotel Sorella. What makes you think that this hotel will be any more luxurious than Hotel Sorella, other than the 24th floor checkin?

 

Downtown we've got Icon and Four Seasons.

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This same owner operates a 5 star luxury hotel in Houston already, Hotel Sorella. What makes you think that this hotel will be any more luxurious than Hotel Sorella, other than the 24th floor checkin?

 

Downtown we've got Icon and Four Seasons.

 

you mean other than the fact that they have stated as much? neither the four seasons nor icon are what anybody outside of houston would consider a true 5-star hotel.

 

what's your beef with the sky lobby anyway? you seem to have some weird aversion to this thing. it's probably going to be far and away the nicest hotel in houston - deal with it.

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you mean other than the fact that they have stated as much?

Source, please. I don't see anything in their marketing materials that say they intend this hotel to be more luxurious than Sorella, the other luxury hotel they operate.

 

neither the four seasons nor icon are what anybody outside of houston would consider a true 5-star hotel.

 

Nor does anything here in their materials indicate that this hotel will be considered a "true 5-star hotel" outside of Houston.

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