j_cuevas713 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Hopefully something fills the Forever 21 space quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Forever 65 perhaps? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougarpad Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Perfect place for a grocery store. HEB shoud be all over that vacant Forever 21 space. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, cougarpad said: Perfect place for a grocery store. HEB shoud be all over that vacant Forever 21 space. I'm trying to think if that could work given the space, but absolutely a grocery store on Main Street would be incredible for the area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Money Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I think a Trader Joe’s could fit the space nicely 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 A grocery store and LifeTime Fitness would be a great 1-2 punch. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 11/7/2017 at 2:04 PM, j_cuevas713 said: Wait a sec, so Forever 21 is closing? Empty. 7 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattie Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 So what are the odds retail moves into their space? Parking is less than ideal if you wanted to run in and grab something quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 21 hours ago, Mattie said: So what are the odds retail moves into their space? Parking is less than ideal if you wanted to run in and grab something quickly. less than 0, retail doesn't work well in Greenstreet. It will either be more bars or office space. **Every** retail space has failed except the HoB Gear Shop, which would fail if it was on it's own. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Texasota Posted January 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2020 I think saying "retail doesn't work well in Greenstreet" based on Forever21 and a failing chain bookstore *and* ignoring the fact that the population downtown has literally quadrupled is a bit premature. I think something that's more of a destination (like Phoenicia has largely turned out) would work fine. Like, if they put a Muji here, it would do fine. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Texasota said: I think saying "retail doesn't work well in Greenstreet" based on Forever21 and a failing chain bookstore *and* ignoring the fact that the population downtown has literally quadrupled is a bit premature. I think something that's more of a destination (like Phoenicia has largely turned out) would work fine. Like, if they put a Muji here, it would do fine. Agree. Forever 21 is going under. It had nothing to do with it being successful/unsuccessful in Greenstreet. And bookstores are in the same boat. Small independent bookstores are doing just fine because they offer a unique experience but larger ones like Barnes and Noble won't be around too much longer. I think any retail would work here. Edited January 27, 2020 by j_cuevas713 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) Life Time Fitness opening "Spring 2020" Life Time Work coming with no date https://www.lifetime.life/life-time-locations/tx-greenstreet-houston.html On 11/15/2019 at 10:18 AM, CaptainJilliams said: A grocery store and LifeTime Fitness would be a great 1-2 punch. 👏 Edited February 11, 2020 by wilcal 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Downtown slowly getting all of the amenities people have been clamoring for. So now you'll have Lifetime, the Met, and YMCA all in downtown, and if LifeTime Fitness has those lounge areas and fast-healthy food like the other locations then the downtown businesses and offices without a gym/lounge area of their own can now provide that service to their employees as a benefit of being at the DT location. And DT residents can go there too, I guess 😆 Thanks @wilcal! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jermh Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, X.R. said: Downtown slowly getting all of the amenities people have been clamoring for. So now you'll have Lifetime, the Met, and YMCA all in downtown, and if LifeTime Fitness has those lounge areas and fast-healthy food like the other locations then the downtown businesses and offices without a gym/lounge area of their own can now provide that service to their employees as a benefit of being at the DT location. And DT residents can go there too, I guess 😆 Thanks @wilcal! I wish this location was getting a lap pool. The YMCA is nice, but it can get crowded, and another pool downtown would help relieve that. Regardless lacking a pool having new amenities downtown will be exciting for a lot of people. Edited February 11, 2020 by jermh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, X.R. said: Downtown slowly getting all of the amenities people have been clamoring for. So now you'll have Lifetime, the Met, and YMCA all in downtown, and if LifeTime Fitness has those lounge areas and fast-healthy food like the other locations then the downtown businesses and offices without a gym/lounge area of their own can now provide that service to their employees as a benefit of being at the DT location. And DT residents can go there too, I guess 😆 Thanks @wilcal! Their site does say that it will feature a LifeCafe and it has a pic of a juice bar looking kind of thing, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nole23 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Hotel Alessandra shutters..... https://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/01-12-21-hotel-alessandra-downtown-closed-shuttered-valencia-group/ 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 dang! well with the world the way it is, this isn't necessarily as much as a surprise as it just stinks... come on vaccine!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Yeah that blows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nole23 said: Hotel Alessandra shutters..... https://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/01-12-21-hotel-alessandra-downtown-closed-shuttered-valencia-group/ COVID created winners and losers, and a lot of that comes down to cash flow management and debt allocation. A lot, a lot of businesses were spending in pursuit of revenue, and COVID caught the ones who were stretched thin with their pants down. Even in hospitality, some private equity groups are making a killing buying these kinds of assets. The sudden-ness of the closing means they probably weren't financially liquid enough to survive the tough time, but this will most likely be sold to some PE company and continue to be what it was. So, no fretting. Can't let all those renovations go to waste! Edited January 12, 2021 by X.R. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This will become something else in the long run. Nothing to worry about. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 This would be the definition of turn-key for whoever scoops it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Nole23 said: Hotel Alessandra shutters..... https://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/01-12-21-hotel-alessandra-downtown-closed-shuttered-valencia-group/ What a death hole this whole development is. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I would doubt this stays closed for more than a few weeks. No lender would allow for that to happen - need to protect their collateral. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUCAJUN Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Interesting to see what Brand takes over. What are the possibilities? Edited January 12, 2021 by HOUCAJUN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, H-Town Man said: What a death hole this whole development is. I’m cautiously optimistic about the Life Time Green Street. It’s going to open in the spring and the facilities are large and incredible. I went in for a virtual tour over the weekend and joined at a discounted early rate. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, HOUCAJUN said: Interesting to see what Brand takes over. What are the possibilities? So many possibilities... Edition, Luxury Collection, St Regis, Le Meridien, Autograph Collection, Tribute Portfolio, Kimpton, Curio Collection, Signia, Tapestry Collection, Canopy, Conrad, LXR, Waldorf Astoria, Loews, Regent, Intercontinental. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Let's be honest... it will be many 6 months before Marriott buys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Houston19514 Posted January 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Moore713 said: Let's be honest... it will be many 6 months before Marriott buys Marriott won't buy it. Marriott is not generally in the business of owning hotels. More news from Houston Business Journal: Robert Williamson, senior vice president of investment management for Midway, called the closure temporary. “We view this as a unique opportunity to reevaluate operations, explore ways to enhance our offerings, maximize value and reopen with minimal impact while the industry slowly recovers," Williamson said. "Providing an unrivaled hotel and dining experience remains our top priority, and we look forward to serving our guests in the near future.” 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Houston19514 said: So many possibilities... Edition, Luxury Collection, St Regis, Le Meridien, Autograph Collection, Tribute Portfolio, Kimpton, Curio Collection, Signia, Tapestry Collection, Canopy, Conrad, LXR, Waldorf Astoria, Loews, Regent, Intercontinental. . . I'm thinking it will probably a one off boutique. Most of the brands you listed are already represented in Houston or this location would be significant enough for a rebrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, BeerNut said: I'm thinking it will probably a one off boutique. Most of the brands you listed are already represented in Houston or this location would be significant enough for a rebrand. Most of those brands would be perfectly happy to have more than one location in Houston. Nevertheless, you may well be right. That seems to be the way Midway likes to go. Edited January 13, 2021 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 2:59 PM, downtownian said: I’m cautiously optimistic about the Life Time Green Street. It’s going to open in the spring and the facilities are large and incredible. I went in for a virtual tour over the weekend and joined at a discounted early rate. just make sure that if you office there, don't get stuck on the second floor beneath the HoB. We WILL make your life miserable between 3 and 6 when it's sound check time... those suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 4:08 PM, Houston19514 said: So many possibilities... Edition, Luxury Collection, St Regis, Le Meridien, Autograph Collection, Tribute Portfolio, Kimpton, Curio Collection, Signia, Tapestry Collection, Canopy, Conrad, LXR, Waldorf Astoria, Loews, Regent, Intercontinental. . . Some brand of Wyndham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUCAJUN Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Ok.so this has been sold to a Maryland company. What's the likely branding name of this hotel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Marriott is headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland. So, the brand could be one of about a hundred different names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 They also have a collection of Boutique properties. Hotel Icon for one example, is one of those. Flipping Marriott owns… most of the hotels downtown. Which is good in a way, since this will hopefully allow for greater competition and provide travelers a choice. Which will mean additional repurposed properties, and new developments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, arche_757 said: They also have a collection of Boutique properties. Hotel Icon for one example, is one of those. Flipping Marriott owns… most of the hotels downtown. Which is good in a way, since this will hopefully allow for greater competition and provide travelers a choice. Which will mean additional repurposed properties, and new developments. Now, if they could just give Houston a new Ritz-Carlton... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 16 hours ago, Naviguessor said: Marriott is headquartered in Bethesda, Maryland. So, the brand could be one of about a hundred different names. It is not being bought by Marriott. It's being bought by Host Hotels & Resorts, so the possible brands are even more numerous. (Host Hotels started its life as part of Marriott, but has been completely separate corporation for a long time and owns many hotels with non-Marriott flags.) 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, arche_757 said: They also have a collection of Boutique properties. Hotel Icon for one example, is one of those. Flipping Marriott owns… most of the hotels downtown. Which is good in a way, since this will hopefully allow for greater competition and provide travelers a choice. Which will mean additional repurposed properties, and new developments. It's pretty safe to say that Marriott actually owns zero hotels downtown. And by my count, 11 of the 26 downtown hotels fly Marriott flags. IF they add this one and if the W ever gets off the ground, they would be up to 13 of 28. Side point: holy cow! 26 hotels in downtown Houston (and soon to be 27, maybe 28). It seems like not that long ago there were 4 hotels in downtown Houston. FOUR! Edited August 5, 2021 by Houston19514 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: It's pretty safe to say that Marriott actually owns zero hotels downtown. And by my count, 11 of the 26 downtown hotels fly Marriott flags. IF they add this one and if the W ever gets off the ground, they would be up to 13 of 28. Side point: holy cow! 26 hotels in downtown Houston (and soon to be 27, maybe 28). It seems like not that long ago there were 4 hotels in downtown Houston. FOUR! Apologies for not being more specific: Marriott is receiving a hefty fee every month in the money from franchise owners who are flying the Marriott branded flags on their hotels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Houston19514 said: It's pretty safe to say that Marriott actually owns zero hotels downtown. And by my count, 11 of the 26 downtown hotels fly Marriott flags. IF they add this one and if the W ever gets off the ground, they would be up to 13 of 28. Side point: holy cow! 26 hotels in downtown Houston (and soon to be 27, maybe 28). It seems like not that long ago there were 4 hotels in downtown Houston. FOUR! Man thats wild, when was it 4 if you can remember? Would y'all think it would make sense to convert this to a longer stay hotel? Like the ones where they rent to you for a week or more? At 20+ hotels, you'd think you'd have so many price points covered, so may be it would make sense to introduce multiple price points at the "i'm in Houston for a week" type of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Houston19514 Posted August 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, X.R. said: Man thats wild, when was it 4 if you can remember? Would y'all think it would make sense to convert this to a longer stay hotel? Like the ones where they rent to you for a week or more? At 20+ hotels, you'd think you'd have so many price points covered, so may be it would make sense to introduce multiple price points at the "i'm in Houston for a week" type of thing. We only had 4 hotels downtown for quite some time, for most of the 1990s and until about 2000. Pre-2000: Hyatt Regency, Doubletree-Allen Center (now C. Baldwin), Four Seasons and Lancaster Hotel. 2000: Crowne Plaza (now The Whitehall) and Holiday Inn Express (approx - can't find an exact opening date) 2002: Sam Houston Hotel 2003: Magnolia Hotel, Marriott Courtyard, Residence Inn, Hilton Americas 2004: Club Quarters, Hotel Icon, and Inn at the Ballpark (now Westin) 2011: Embassy Suites 2014: JW Marriott 2015: Holiday Inn and Springhill Suites 2016: Hampton Inn, Homewood Suites, Aloft Hotel and Marriott Marquis 2017: Le Meridien and Hotel Alessandra (currently closed, soon to reopen as TBD) 2019: AC Hotel and Cambria 2021: Hyatt Place Edited August 5, 2021 by Houston19514 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 A very big change from the early days of this forum, that is certain. There is a Moxy Hotel listed on CentralHouston/Downtown District list of hotels. Is that under construction, or just proposed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, arche_757 said: A very big change from the early days of this forum, that is certain. There is a Moxy Hotel listed on CentralHouston/Downtown District list of hotels. Is that under construction, or just proposed? They got their building permits in March of this year... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: They got their building permits in March of this year... 36 minutes ago, arche_757 said: A very big change from the early days of this forum, that is certain. There is a Moxy Hotel listed on CentralHouston/Downtown District list of hotels. Is that under construction, or just proposed? State National Bank Building rehab... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Thanks @Houston19514 & @Montrose1100. I’m a day late and a dollar short sometimes…usually! I recall now that building being renovated into the Moxy. Good. The more places the merrier. I believe we are still a bit low on the overall number of rooms for a city this size - of course the pandemic has sort of rewritten everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, arche_757 said: Thanks @Houston19514 & @Montrose1100. I’m a day late and a dollar short sometimes…usually! I recall now that building being renovated into the Moxy. Good. The more places the merrier. I believe we are still a bit low on the overall number of rooms for a city this size - of course the pandemic has sort of rewritten everything. We have about 8,500 rooms in the CBD. I think we're pretty much at parity with comparable cities now. Edited August 6, 2021 by Houston19514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I wouldn’t know. I haven’t read up on what a comparable city would be for us? Dallas? Philadelphia? Based on your statement it sounds like it would be a tough sell to build a new trophy hotel similar to Marriott Marquis or Hilton Americas. I thought HoustonFirst was trying to do that in the next ____ years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, arche_757 said: I wouldn’t know. I haven’t read up on what a comparable city would be for us? Dallas? Philadelphia? Based on your statement it sounds like it would be a tough sell to build a new trophy hotel similar to Marriott Marquis or Hilton Americas. I thought HoustonFirst was trying to do that in the next ____ years? Yeah I’d say Philly, SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staresatmaps Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 There's a new cafe there that was finished a few weeks ago, but I've never seen it open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilcal Posted August 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2021 Article on Alessandra sale: https://houston.culturemap.com/news/city-life/08-05-21-hotel-alessandra-downtown-sold-host-hotels-resorts-midway/ Bought by group that owns the St. Regis, Marriott Med Center/Marriott IAH. Quote Expect more information about Host's plans for the property, including a new name, in the coming weeks. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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