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45 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

Wait a sec, so Forever 21 is closing?

 

I know nothing here, but I recall reading that at one point Books-a-Million was not required to pay rent. Forever 21 might be in the same position now, with some sort of clause that they get booted if a redevelopment opportunity shows up. 

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Think about the possibilities. 

Hakeem Olajuwon 34

Nolan Ryan  34

Earl Campbell 34

Elvin Bethea

Robert Brazille

A.J. Foyt

Carl Lewis

Zina Garrison

George Foreman

Elvin Hayes

Calvin Murphy

Rudy Tomjanovich

Homero Blancas

Fred Couples

John Mahaffey

Bruce Lietzke'

Steve Elkington

Jackie Burke

Jimmie Demaret

Dave Williams

Bruce Matthews 

Mike Munchak

Jimmy Wynn

Jose Cruz

Larry Dierker

Guy Lewis

 Craig Biggio

Jeff Bagwell

Don Chaney

Jose Altuve

Roger Clemens

Andy Pettit

Michael Strahan

and on and on

Who wouldn't want to go see this

 

 

 

 

 

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43 minutes ago, bobruss said:

Think about the possibilities. 

Hakeem Olajuwon 34

Nolan Ryan  34

Earl Campbell 34

Elvin Bethea

Robert Brazille

A.J. Foyt

Carl Lewis

Zina Garrison

George Foreman

Elvin Hayes

Calvin Murphy

Rudy Tomjanovich

Homero Blancas

Fred Couples

John Mahaffey

Bruce Lietzke'

Steve Elkington

Jackie Burke

Jimmie Demaret

Dave Williams

Bruce Matthews 

Mike Munchak

Jimmy Wynn

Jose Cruz

Larry Dierker

Guy Lewis

 Craig Biggio

Jeff Bagwell

Don Chaney

Jose Altuve

Roger Clemens

Andy Pettit

Michael Strahan

and on and on

Who wouldn't want to go see this

 

 

 

 

 

Don’t forget we have a professional soccer team with legends like Brian Ching and Brad Davis

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Let's not for get Gordie, Mark, and Marty Howe of the original Houston Aeros (WHL). They aren't related to Art Howe, are they? Oh yeah, Joe Morgan and J. R. Richard too. Charles Beverly with the Buffaloes (yes that is how it was spelled) way back when. I'm sure there are more.

Bum Phillips? Don't forget John Heisman coached Rice football from 1924-1927.

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This list could go on and on. I was just thinking off the top of my head and left out quite a few.

I'm having a senior moment but who was the Quarterback for our other pro football team. I think they were the Gamblers. He went on to star for Buffalo.

Was it Jim Kelly? 

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13 hours ago, bobruss said:

This list could go on and on. I was just thinking off the top of my head and left out quite a few.

I'm having a senior moment but who was the Quarterback for our other pro football team. I think they were the Gamblers. He went on to star for Buffalo.

Was it Jim Kelly? 

Indeed it was Jim Kelly. He played 11 seasons at Buffalo. His 58th birthday is this coming Wednesday, Feb. 14.

You are right, bobruss, this topic could have a thread of its own under Sports and Stadia. The Texas Gulf Coast region and its sports teams have had many stand-out athletes who grew up here and/or made their mark here. I am fortunate to have witnessed so many. No, I didn't attend Rice in the 1920's when Heisman was coach. :) In fact, I'm younger than Jim Kelly by a few months.

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11 hours ago, KinkaidAlum said:

Zina Garrison and Lori McNeil should both be in there. Doubles champions who grew up in the Third Ward and crashed through all sorts of barriers. Plus, Lori is still out on the courts every day teaching the next generation in MacGregor Park at ZGA.

These are the real HoF athletes - those who share their expertise and experience with the next generation and use their celebrity to promote good things in the community.

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When I worked at the original Carrabbas as a waiter when it first opened Zina, would come in and I waited on her several times. My daughter had just started playing tennis and Zina was at her Zenith. I mentioned that my daughter was taking up the sport and the next time Zina came in she gave me one of her Racket signed for my daughter to use.

I was floored. She is truly a great athlete but even more an incredible person. 

One of the things about the list that I put together is that it came mostly from a list I had made of the athlete for Houston teams that I met or waited on at Carrabbas. 

I probably met more hall of famers at that restaurant than you can imagine. Players from opposing teams would come in all of the time like Reggie jackson, Tommy Lasorda Spiderman Sallie, and on and on. It was a remarkable place to see and meet some of the all time greats!

All of the Oilers, Astros, and Rockets games it was nuts. Rudy and his wife and daughters would come in after games. 

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Zina is great. She's given up coaching at the pro level and is now back in Houston full-time dedicating herself to expanding her academy for youth. Lori coaches out there every day. They've got some really exciting plans to expand what they do in MacGregor Park. Going to need to fundraise a lot but I think they'll pull it off. 

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As an inhabitant of Riverside Terrace, I've spent some time at MacGregor Park and seen Zina's academy. Thats great news about the expansion.

So is Lori your daughter.? I remember you mentioning that she goes to U of H, I believe in an earlier post. 

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They could have a section of the Hall for Houston inspired sports movies or movies featuring Houston sports/athletes/venues..

 

- Bad New Bears II/ Astrodome

-The Batttle of the Sexes/Astrodome

-Friday Night Lights / Astrodome

- Boys Life featured an Astros game at MMP.

 

Also,  weren't the two main golfers in Tin Cup, former teammates at the University of Houston?

 

Oh, and Jamie Foxx's  UH character in Any Given Sunday and I'm sure many more.

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, shasta said:

They could have a section of the Hall for Houston inspired sports movies or movies featuring Houston sports/athletes/venues..

 

- Bad New Bears II/ Astrodome

-The Batttle of the Sexes/Astrodome

-Friday Night Lights / Astrodome

- Boys Life featured an Astros game at MMP.

 

Also,  weren't the two main golfers in Tin Cup, former teammates at the University of Houston?

 

Oh, and Jamie Foxx's  UH character in Any Given Sunday and I'm sure many more.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Part of Tin Cup was filmed at Kingwood Country Club. 

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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texas-sports-nation/article/Houston-icons-to-put-a-ring-on-it-at-Hall-of-Fame-12907434.php

 

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Houston icons to put a ring on it at Hall of Fame groundbreaking

Melanie Hauser

May 11, 2018 Updated: May 11, 2018 10:30am

 

Earl Campbell is counting down the days.

 

Every morning. Same smile. Same headshake. Same thought. Maybe a word changed here or there, but Christian Campbell knows what's coming.

 

His dad wants to be able to slip that size 20 Houston Sports Hall of Fame ring onto his finger next month. The problem? The gnarled knuckle that carried so many footballs and took so many beatings over his Hall of Fame career.

 

"I just hope,'' Campbell says, "I can get it over that knuckle.''

 

No one may be more excited for June 4 to get here than the former Houston Oiler and Texas Longhorn legend.

 

Just after 3 p.m on June 4, Houston's Legendary 34s -- Campbell, Nolan Ryan and Hakeem Olajuwon -- will all slip on their rings at the groundbreaking ceremony downtown for phase one of the Houston Sports Hall of Fame.

 

 

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On ‎3‎/‎7‎/‎2018 at 9:54 AM, CrockpotandGravel said:

 

 

 



Good find, Mab. These updated renderings and proposed changes coming to GreenStreet Houston looks sweet. (link to older proposed renderings of GreenStreet renovations)

 

It looks as though they will be adding some small retail spaces opening on Dallas Street. I talked to someone involved with this a couple months ago who said they were planning on down-leasing the building in order to perform renovations aimed at opening the project up to Dallas Street more.

 

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14 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said:

the first induction ceremony for the Houston Sports HoF was at HoB today. Honestly, it was sad watching Earl Campbell ride in on a wheelchair scooter. (H)Akeem was looking well, and Nolan Ryan sent his son to accept his ring.

 

How, er, nice of Nolan Ryan.  Kind of tacky . . .

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On 5/14/2018 at 0:02 PM, H-Town Man said:

 

It looks as though they will be adding some small retail spaces opening on Dallas Street. I talked to someone involved with this a couple months ago who said they were planning on down-leasing the building in order to perform renovations aimed at opening the project up to Dallas Street more.

 

 

What is down leasing? Lowering the rates?

 

The CBRE shows of a few things that are somewhat ambiguous to me and interesting things already pointed out by others.

 

It says there are four emerging food halls downtown. I know of two, are there others we know of?

Forever 21 doesn't look like they're renewing their lease or the tapas restaurant across from HoB

Looks like they're the old bookstore spot is exclusively being marketed as a gym, it's just a matter of who.

 

http://ucr.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/greenstreet-property-flyer-053018.pdf

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59 minutes ago, lockmat said:

 

It says there are four emerging food halls downtown. I know of two, are there others we know of?

 

 

 

Conservatory (Prairie St), Finn Hall (Main & Rusk), Bravery (Aris Mkt Square), Lyric Market (Lyric Center)

 

 

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1 hour ago, lockmat said:

 

What is down leasing? Lowering the rates?

 

The CBRE shows of a few things that are somewhat ambiguous to me and interesting things already pointed out by others.

 

It says there are four emerging food halls downtown. I know of two, are there others we know of?

Forever 21 doesn't look like they're renewing their lease or the tapas restaurant across from HoB

Looks like they're the old bookstore spot is exclusively being marketed as a gym, it's just a matter of who.

 

http://ucr.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/greenstreet-property-flyer-053018.pdf

 

No, letting tenants go without renewing. Vacating space.

 

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Greenstreet is so inward-focused.  It is very unwelcoming from the street.  For the life of me, I don’t know why they designed it that way or why they can’t change it.  At the very least, if the businesses can’t all open to the street, give the outside some pizzazz— cool lighting displays, LED Jumbotrons, anything to bring some electricity (no pun intended) and excitement to an otherwise BLAH development.  Make it a destination, not an afterthought.

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11 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said:

I never posted a finished picture of the light wall at HoB.

 

 

http://imgur.com/gallery/huDlpxi


 

By the way, the light wall at the HOB is a perfect example of the various “swing and a miss” efforts at Greenstreet.  It’s arbitrary and underwhelming.  If you want to make a statement, you’ve got to SPEAK UP.  This is a half-hearted whisper.

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23 minutes ago, Chi-Char-Hou-Dal said:

I heard Liftime fitness is coming to Greenstreet - has that been posted here

 

Interesting.  Their current retail leasing brochure shows a three-level, 117,000 square foot "Fitness" tenant where the bookstore used to be.  Then, in further detail, it says that 117,000 square feet is comprised of:

-- 37,000 square feet Fitness Space

-- 35,000 square feet Coworking Space

-- 25,000 square feet Spa & Personal Care

-- 20,000 square feet Rootop Amenity Space

 

Definitely sounds like Lifetime Fitness.

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16 minutes ago, H-Town Man said:

Hopdoddy would kill it here, I'm telling you. Lines of office workers.

 

 

Hard to say.  There's a lot of competition.  Downtown has so many good burger places, in the full range of prices, with Vic and Anthony's at the top end ($21ish with tax and tip), and then the new Craft Burger (in Finn Hall) and upcoming Shake Shack (next door), plus plenty of more affordable popular long-time favorites such as Hubcap Grill and Miller's Cafe.

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1 hour ago, rechlin said:

 

Hard to say.  There's a lot of competition.  Downtown has so many good burger places, in the full range of prices, with Vic and Anthony's at the top end ($21ish with tax and tip), and then the new Craft Burger (in Finn Hall) and upcoming Shake Shack (next door), plus plenty of more affordable popular long-time favorites such as Hubcap Grill and Miller's Cafe.

 

Yeah, but Hopdoddy is a sensation. An overrated sensation. When I worked in Preston Center in Dallas, we had some good burger places. Then Hopdoddy came in and it's the only place anyone wanted to do lunch. I would sometimes convince people to avoid the line and go back to Snuffer's, and the place would be nearly empty at lunch on a Friday.

 

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Midway acquired the Pavillions in 2012, I think.  In the last 7 years midway has created lots of pretty pictures and installed some grass on some roofs and some patch of AstroTurf called a “lawn” to hold events on.  They have also built a hotel.

 

the pretty pictures that they published look nothing like what they built.  Remember that grand hotel edifice and the “value engineered structure” that they actually built?  Meet me in the Sky lobby, anyone?   How about those expansive dry goods shopping spaces?

 

They own the property and they are free to do as they wish.  And I am free to not believe that they will ever do anything at this property remotely like what they describe in their pretty pictures and flowery prose.

 

oh, and I hope, I desperately hope, that one day, they prove me wrong.

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12 hours ago, UtterlyUrban said:

Midway acquired the Pavillions in 2012, I think.  In the last 7 years midway has created lots of pretty pictures and installed some grass on some roofs and some patch of AstroTurf called a “lawn” to hold events on.  They have also built a hotel.

 

the pretty pictures that they published look nothing like what they built.  Remember that grand hotel edifice and the “value engineered structure” that they actually built?  Meet me in the Sky lobby, anyone?   How about those expansive dry goods shopping spaces?

 

They own the property and they are free to do as they wish.  And I am free to not believe that they will ever do anything at this property remotely like what they describe in their pretty pictures and flowery prose.

 

oh, and I hope, I desperately hope, that one day, they prove me wrong.

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To be completely honest, Midway does not own the property. They are the General Partner so they probably own 5% of the property and would not be putting up the majority of the capital for renovations, all they do is provide the vision and programming. It is up to the Limited Partner (Lionstone) to decide when and what actually gets funded. 

 

I know everyone likes to think designing, programming, and construction are the epicenters of buildings but I promise it is finance. I'm willing to bet that when the team got their hands on the property in 2012 and then sat through the downturn 2014, that the property needed a whole lot more money infused and that the returns weren't worth it. Sometimes you have to sit on a property and find the right time, sometimes you have to admit you got it wrong and sell. 

 

If it was easy to flip/build a property I'm sure you would be doing it yourself. 

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18 hours ago, HoustonBoy said:

There is a rooftop soccer field that I see almost anytime Tokyo is featured in a movie and seeing that Houston might be getting one is a childhood dream come true 

 

Houston has a rooftop soccer field.. it’s just on top of a parking garage at Phillips 66 campus on Beltway 8 west. 

I was oddly excited when Phillips 66 announced it, after seeing the Tokyo rooftop soccer field in movies for years.

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3 hours ago, C List said:

To be completely honest, Midway does not own the property. They are the General Partner so they probably own 5% of the property and would not be putting up the majority of the capital for renovations, all they do is provide the vision and programming. It is up to the Limited Partner (Lionstone) to decide when and what actually gets funded. 

 

I know everyone likes to think designing, programming, and construction are the epicenters of buildings but I promise it is finance. I'm willing to bet that when the team got their hands on the property in 2012 and then sat through the downturn 2014, that the property needed a whole lot more money infused and that the returns weren't worth it. Sometimes you have to sit on a property and find the right time, sometimes you have to admit you got it wrong and sell. 

 

If it was easy to flip/build a property I'm sure you would be doing it yourself. 

 

I commented a while back in this thread that a leasing broker for this property told me that they were letting leases run out and occupancy fall so that they can do further renovations. This was approximately one year ago. It is the same thing going on with the Shops at Houston Center. You have to let leases run out so your hands aren't tied.

 

The fact that the hotel was built and that Midway was the winning bidder to redevelop the Sakowitz garage a couple years ago suggests to me that they do not have any regrets about decisions that were made in 2012.

 

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16 minutes ago, H-Town Man said:

 

I commented a while back in this thread that a leasing broker for this property told me that they were letting leases run out and occupancy fall so that they can do further renovations. This was approximately one year ago. It is the same thing going on with the Shops at Houston Center. You have to let leases run out so your hands aren't tied.

 

The fact that the hotel was built and that Midway was the winning bidder to redevelop the Sakowitz garage a couple years ago suggests to me that they do not have any regrets about decisions that were made in 2012.

 

 

Is that news?  Did we know about Midway wining the right to redevelop the Sakowitz garage?

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