monarch Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 so, does anyone know upon whether or not if they have actually decided upon this prospective hotel's namesake? {HOTEL VALENCIA vs HOTEL ALESSANDRIA} there still seems to be a bit of ambiguity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky-guy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 so, does anyone know upon whether or not if they have actually decided upon this prospective hotel's namesake? {HOTEL VALENCIA vs HOTEL ALESSANDRIA} there still seems to be a bit of ambiguity...Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's Hotel Alessandra, not Alessandria 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hotel Allesandra is painted on to all the advertisements with all the GS tenants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mab Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 In related news New Orleans might get the second Hotel Alessandra Two Canal Street Investors Inc. and Hotel AlessandraWho is involved? Woodbine Development Corp. of Dallas, which points to a history of renovations, including recently acquiring the New Orleans Ambassador Hotel, is partnering with real estate investment firm Monday Properties, which has focused its business in New York and Washington D.C. The team also includes Valencia Hotel Group hotel management firm. Among other partners, co-developers are Steven Peer and Peter Arey, who were part of a different team that lost a bid for the World Trade Center in the city's last failed attempt to lease out the building.What is the proposal? A 318-room "five-star, uber-hip" hotel targeted at affluent, younger travelers, 240 luxury apartments serviced by the hotel, a rooftop jazz club on the 33rd floor and restaurants on the first and 30th floors.Project cost: $201 million.Hotel brand: Hotel Alessandra. It would be only the second Alessandra brand. The first is under construction in Houston. Developers describe the hotel as "new luxury" that offers old-line amenities with a more upbeat style. http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2014/12/former_world_trade_center_reno_1.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 is it just me, or does the hotel proposal for new orleans sound a bit taller, fun, and much more sophisticated than our GREENSTREET hotel alessandra proposal? i was under the impression that the alessandra name was a bit exclusive to houston. suddenly, it appears that this is just a bit to close for comfort. i was really looking forward to this particular fabulous project. well, now i don't know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Their competing against three other proposals to redevelop the WTC, winner will be chosen on March 23rd by the city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Wtc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Wtc?"World Trade Center" I beleive. New Orleans version. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 much obliged as per the update urbannizer. however, this is all very unique / strange / perplexing to me. i certainly do not intend to make a big deal about this, but this proposal for new orleans has taken me for a loop! it was indeed my foremost impression, that the HOTEL ALESSANDRA slated as per houston's GREENSTREET development.. was supposed to catapult houston into the next century of true high end boutique hotel luxury.. unparalleled. we are all grown-ups here HAIF. none of us are hereby severely naive when it comes to an upsurge of good strong quality development. nonetheless, many of us are quite well aware that our fair city of houston, has indeed waited long enough for the true high end hospitality components, to finally wake up and take note of our most wonderful bayou city. HOTEL ALESSANDRA, GREENSTREET, was our golden key! yes, we have a FOUR SEASONS.. yes, we have a ST. REGIS.. yes, we have a HOUSTONIAN.. but those hotels have indeed been around for such a long time that they really don't harbor the all important UBER HIGH END effect. we can now thank god for HOTEL GRANDUCA / HOTEL SORRELLA and such.. for these formidable components are finally placing houston's hospitality centers back upon the map. please do not misinterpret my concern here. i absolutely love new orleans, la! heck, i was actually born in lafayette, la. the city of new orleans, has hereby suffered a great deal.. as per the last few decades. massive hurricanes, tornadoes, etc.. that fair city deserves to re-establish itself in lieu of so much negative adversity. however, i was hereby raised in our great state of texas. i currently live in downtown houston, and i stand as a living witness to the ups and downs that our own fair city has had to endure. THIS IS OUR TIME... and we deserve this opportunity as well as anyone! new orleans, is just a few miles down the highway from us. upon my view, it just doesn't make sense for the developers to construct an exclusive uber high end hotel slated for downtown houston... and make it much bigger, taller, better, and much more sophisticated in downtown new orleans. i mean what next... DALLAS? i am most certain that by now, many HAIFER'S are indeed well aware of just how much i value and love our fair city of houston. i am just tired of us not getting our fair shake! we have waited far too long for our first W HOTEL. some have stated that we may never acquire a RITZ CARLTON again. not to mention many of the other hotel brands that are popping up all over the austin, dallas, and san antonio markets. and now we are finally preparing ourselves as per the construction of a super high end hotel that shall render to us.. the all important polish that we have been longing for. and suddenly we learn that there shall be a much better one proposed right down the highway for new orleans. maybe it's just me, but something is just not right here! yes, i am pissed about this! therefore, let me have it HAIF! maybe at some point, i shall calm down..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 You do realize the WTC in NOLA already exists and looks like complete ass.. They've been trying to redevelop it for a while I believe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 A very cool, boutique hotel is almost it's only hope. Hotel Alassandra sounds like a likely and good fit. A strengthening of the brand can only help a houston property. Drink your juice Monarch. It's all going to be okay. Sh sh shhhh. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Man monarch is a strange, strange bird. No idea what's running through dude's cranium. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Monarch!!! you had to say all of that? Just for your only point (which is moot btw) to be that you're just mad that there's going to be a 2nd holel in NOLA? You could've said that in three sentences. Edited December 28, 2014 by scarface 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 i know, i know, just keep the heat / insults coming. no problem! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) is it just me, or does the hotel proposal for new orleans sound a bit taller, fun, and much more sophisticated than our GREENSTREET hotel alessandra proposal? i was under the impression that the alessandra name was a bit exclusive to houston. suddenly, it appears that this is just a bit to close for comfort. i was really looking forward to this particular fabulous project. well, now i don't know...I wouldn't be concerned with New Orleans having a Hotel Alessandra. It's one of 5 bids and the renovated WTC could easily become a Hilton Conrad, Godfrey, Andaz, or Four Season's branded hotel As for whom would have the better Hotel Alessandra - remember that the Houston-version will have a glass retractable-roof sky lobby with a jazz bar over looking a pool ...all located 25 stories up amongst a skyline view that New Orleans does not have, nor will it have these amenities. If somehow the Woodbine/Monday/Alessandra bid won, it would be New Orleans that is envious of our Alessandra. Edited December 28, 2014 by tigereye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 We are not in a position to compete with New Orleans in luxury hospitality. If both of these happen, we should be happy at having the first Alessandra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 heck, they may even acquire a W HOTEL before we do. very nice new orleans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Monarch my boy leave him alone lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 heck, they may even acquire a W HOTEL before we do. very nice new orleans... New Orleans has a W Hotel...or did. New Orleans and Houston (downtowns at least) aren't on the same planet when it comes to hospitality. What is the obsession with the W brand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 .What is the obsession with the W brand?They're flashy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 They're flashy.And decidedly targeted to folks in an age demographic in which I am no longer in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 "It would be only the second Alessandra brand. The first is under construction in Houston." Do they know something we don't? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 What is the obsession with the W brand? I was in one of the first W Hotels when it opened in San Francisco in 2000. Very hip, very cool, very much ambient music and subdued colors. The problem is everyone else has seen what was done with the W and is imitating it. I'm guessing the ZaZa and the Sorella have the same stylistic points, and I'm anxious to see what the Indigo offers. The Derek is good, but very hip-hop. You almost expect to see the visiting teams that are playing the Rockets there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennyc05 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Black people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Very cool black people. In sweats. With gym bags. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 NBA teams stay at the Four Seasons. $$$ > Posing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 NBA teams stay at the Four Seasons. $$$ > Posing. I thought they stayed at the JW Marriott on Westheimer? Or was that Rockets @ the Compaq Center times? I was in one of the first W Hotels when it opened in San Francisco in 2000. Very hip, very cool, very much ambient music and subdued colors. The problem is everyone else has seen what was done with the W and is imitating it. I'm guessing the ZaZa and the Sorella have the same stylistic points, and I'm anxious to see what the Indigo offers. The Derek is good, but very hip-hop. You almost expect to see the visiting teams that are playing the Rockets there.I sincerely do not think ZaZa is trying to imitate the W. The ZaZa is like the Bombay Company/Pier 1 on steroids, and the W is Crate & Barrel. Hotel Derek is a dirty free for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 All black people are cool. Just like all white people and Asian and Hispanic and all races are cool.Except Kim Jong Un. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 All black people are cool. Just like all white people and Asian and Hispanic and all races are cool.Except Kim Jong Un.Oh, great. Now HAIF is going to get hacked! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNAguy Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 All black people are cool. Just like all white people and Asian and Hispanic and all races are cool. Except Kim Jong Un. He may be a homicidal tyrant, but there's no denying he's a fashion icon. Where do you think Macklemore got his idea for his 'famous' haircut? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
por favor gracias Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I've seen NBA teams at the Four Seasons downtown, and NFL teams at the JW Marriott at the Galleria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Oh, great. Now HAIF is going to get hacked!Only if some disgruntled ex-employee is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I sincerely do not think ZaZa is trying to imitate the W. The ZaZa is like the Bombay Company/Pier 1 on steroids, and the W is Crate & Barrel. Hotel Derek is a dirty free for all. Did you say "dirty" or "dutty"? Ah, roamin' around H Town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Development map also says 1Q 2015 for the Hotel now. https://www.dropbox.com/s/jbfacumb1r1rlz7/2015-01-06%20-%20DT%20Development%20Update.pdf?dl=0 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 March. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 March.So, let's think about this.......Will this hotel be ready for the Super Bowl? To be "ready", it needs to likely be open in, say, October of 2016. Will it make it?My guess is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 March has been the plan for several months now. I heard that date in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tigereye Posted January 15, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2015 Its happening - just got an email for closures in preparation for demolition. Construction set in April. Cheers! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 That is good news! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 That is good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 That is good news!You can say that again! Awesome news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 superb news tigereye! rejoice... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Its happening - just got an email for closures in preparation for demolition. Construction set in April. Cheers!Oh. My. God. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Well, January 2015 demo, April 2015 start, so let's not get ahead of ourselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 KTRH said they started demo today. I'll see it tomorrow when I go in to work for a few minutes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoninATX Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Houston is a fighter! While it takes a few blows like the current oil bust, but it gets up and still fights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 (edited) Yep.. Still thriving. Just at a lesser amount than before. Heh Edited January 20, 2015 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 On a diet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 So have they tore this up yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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