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Yes I do. The original plan was to convert at least one street into a waterway (why imitate San Antonio, sheesh). The rest were to become narowed tree-lined pedestrian friendly thoroughfares with head-in parking. For the most part, I actually liked the original design, save for the waterway. I would have preferred one East-West street closed to all traffic and turned into a linear park-scape to link the convention center area to the West side of downtown. Main Street (which should be closed to vehicular traffic IMO) would have been the natural North-South linear. Anyways, they did implement parts of Cotswold by narrowing some of the streets (mainly E-W ones) and adding some head-in parking, street lights, better signs, and so on. An ambitious idea that ended up getting watered down (budget or lack of vision, take your pick), but still a good one that is paying dividends today.

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Anyone else remember the Cotswold streetscape projects?

I remember.

I was real excited about it, because they were showing "attention" to my beloved downtown. I think a couple years later they added the tall square brick posts with the aluminum tops that had cutouts of artwork drawn by houston elementary school kids, right down by the bayou behind the grand opera building. I think that was sort of the "beginning" of the buffalo bayou beautification/bayou walk, what have you. I thought it was so cool and clever.

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I was a member of the original group of stakeholders who worked with Guy Hagsttette on the Cotswold project.

It was initially planned to turn one of the northern most east wets streets into a waterway. This was shelved but everything else was built as planned. There were three issues which altered the downtown while Cotswold was being built.

The metro rail line with water feature on Main St.. Every north south street from Smith to Austin were totally rebuilt, and it was found once excavation started on Prairie next to Cabo's in the test block, some of the water lines were still made of brick which they hadn't planned on replacing and ironically they had to remove the remnants of the old trolley lines.

Everything else including signage, trees, parking and lighting were finished as originally planned. It was a very interesting chance to see things from behind the scenes.

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I was a member of the original group of stakeholders who worked with Guy Hagsttette on the Cotswold project.

It was initially planned to turn one of the northern most east wets streets into a waterway. This was shelved but everything else was built as planned. There were three issues which altered the downtown while Cotswold was being built.

The metro rail line with water feature on Main St.. Every north south street from Smith to Austin were totally rebuilt, and it was found once excavation started on Prairie next to Cabo's in the test block, some of the water lines were still made of brick which they hadn't planned on replacing and ironically they had to remove the remnants of the old trolley lines.

Everything else including signage, trees, parking and lighting were finished as originally planned. It was a very interesting chance to see things from behind the scenes.

Sorry, I hit send twice.

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I remember.

I was real excited about it, because they were showing "attention" to my beloved downtown. I think a couple years later they added the tall square brick posts with the aluminum tops that had cutouts of artwork drawn by houston elementary school kids, right down by the bayou behind the grand opera building. I think that was sort of the "beginning" of the buffalo bayou beautification/bayou walk, what have you. I thought it was so cool and clever.

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Actually, the brick towers along the bayou next to the Wortham theater were part of the Sesquicentenial park designed by a couple of U. Of h. Arch. Students in a competition to create the park that now exists. One of the members of that group was Guy Hagstette.

The Aluminum towers with the cutouts that were drawn by elementary school kids was the art project by a very well known Houston artist Mel Chin. He is also responsible for the Palm tree and metal pyramid sculpture that unfortunately is in disrepair behind the contemporary art museum. It would be nice to see that public sculpture completely refurbished and have a more visible location.

It's a great sculpture.

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Has this building really been scaled down to 37 floors? According to Emporis....Yea. Swstig? or anybody else can confirm this?

http://www.emporis.com/building/international-tower-houston-tx-usa

I added the building to the database a few months ago when that was the initial floor count reported... Just haven't updated it.

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Anyone else remember the Cotswold streetscape projects?

 

Yes. If I recall correctly, it was a complete failure.

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Old rendering?

I agree. I understand it is a little to do with the perspective but I doubt it will dwarf the Chase tower like that...

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I agree. I understand it is a little to do with the rendering but I doubt it will dwarf the Chase tower like that...

 

It perspective view man.

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What website or .PDF did you find this rending from?

Awesome rendering or what....I think so.

 

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It perspective view man.

It still looks like the older version before being scaled down. I don't think this rendering is accurate just like the first rendering.

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If swstig says it is than I believe so.

He already said the building is 41 floors which means both renderings are from the previous version.

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He also mentioned that top deck (crown) 

 

 

let me clarify that the top floor is double in height and the crown is about 4 stories tall, though.

  

So leaves me to think that it will have the same design

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He also mentioned that top deck (crown)

So leaves me to think that it will have the same design

 

Same design but shortened. Keep reading to where he says it's an old rendering.

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Well then we will just have to see later.

 

Edit: The building being 41 floors and the crown's height being the height of a 4 story building will make look lie 45 floors.

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I am eager to see if this building will show well from Memorial Drive/West view where all the tv cameras setup for sporting events, skyline shots, etc.?

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look at how tall the International Tower is compared to Calpine Center. it will still be quite a bit taller if its 45ish stories in height compared to Calpines 33.

Calpine is second tall building from the left..
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It still looks like the older version before being scaled down. I don't think this rendering is accurate just like the first rendering.

EDIT - Link added: http://m.pinterest.com/pin/335518240960212731/

The Pinterest link posted earlier also contains a shot of the PDF for this building, where Stream/Essex describes it as a 41-story building.

I am eager to see if this building will show well from Memorial Drive/West view where all the tv cameras setup for sporting events, skyline shots, etc.?

In that same PDF shot I referenced above, Stre/Essex shows a concept of this view ...albeit from the air and not from Buffalo Bayou/Sabine St bridge. Edited by tigereye
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They must be forecasting a high end residential element. No one onter than an NBA max contract guy would drive a Bugatti Veyron in to downtown Houston. 

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^^^^ Rendering Added

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So they do have a "brochure" to shop this building around to interested companies... That's good to know.

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So they do have a "brochure" to shop this building around to interested companies... That's good to know.

And they've done a good job of keeping if under wraps seeing as it looks like the 50 story tower we were hearing about in December when Hines' was 48 also.

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Think it could have anything to do with the crown? Maybe to show it would have the height of a 46 story building and make Hines' apartment tower look shorter in comparison. Would make their apartment tower look shorter because without it(and the apartment tower now proposed on Block 35) it would be the tallest building for a couple blocks around the park. If not it seems like the floor count of a proposed tower changes every other week.

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Most of this is not shocking news, we knew going in the first one off the ground would reduce demand for the others... My bet maybe one more gets off the ground before the other developers shelve thier plans at least for now..

 

So who do most thing will get off the ground next ? I am hoping it is Exxsex who has the most intresting design even more so than 609..  so who do you think will be the next to drop shovel?

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Most of this is not shocking news, we knew going in the first one off the ground would reduce demand for the others... My bet maybe one more gets off the ground before the other developers shelve thier plans at least for now..

So who do most thing will get off the ground next ? I am hoping it is Exxsex who has the most intresting design even more so than 609.. so who do you think will be the next to drop shovel?

Skanska seems committed to the site, so although it might not happen in the next couple years it appears they'll do something within the next 5. I'm interested to know what Stream means when they say they are "working on it". They've been marketing the tower for a couple years now, so hopefully they are close to signing some tenants!

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Skanska better get off the ground. Tearing down the Houston Club only to leave an empty lot, even if just for 5 years, would be a major disappointment.

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Skanska better get off the ground. Tearing down the Houston Club only to leave an empty lot, even if just for 5 years, would be a major disappointment.

Yes and across the street from our tallest. I mean we aren't Dallas for crying out loud. Just kidding. But if this project and the one on the Macy's lot don't come to fruitation it will be a huge let down. I have faith in this project though, it grew a couple floors.

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