Jump to content

CBD Vision 36 - linear park system


lockmat

Recommended Posts

To me this seems like a no brainer. Too bad they decided to nix taking away 10 ft of private land.

I hope it isn't as grainy for y'all as it was on my iPhone

Associated doc http://downtownhouston.org/site_media/uploads/attachments/2013-03-08/Southern_Downtown_CBD_Market_Assessment-Feb_2013.pdf

Check it out!

http://youtu.be/eXtjawUAmz8

Edited by lockmat
  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very cool plan.   Thanks for posting.

 

I hope they can make it happen.  (Yea, the 10' of addditional land for the linear parks would have been nice, but this is still a great plan that would be a huge improvement.)  I'm all for reducing the number of lanes of traffic on those east-west streets.  Those streets are ridiculously over-sized.

Edited by Houston19514
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Also, per that report I also linked to, it says don't expect these properties, owned by one owner, to be developed, as they have a history of holding for investment purposes. http://goo.gl/agUGR

I sure hope that there are discussions with that owner prior to implementing this. Doesn't make sense if it doesn't lead to development. There's plenty of other areas that could benefit from a similar plan.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah I'm with Daniepwils. 

 

While this is a cool development, I don't think this will do much to add to the area. 

 

I'd rather just see a bunch of apartment complexes sprouting up on those parking lots.  I don't think people are going to scramble to build new buildings just because of a nicer sidewalk.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This proposal is really neat.  However, the City does not own the needed right of way.  Unless the land is donated, the acquisition costs (through eminent domain), would likely reach eight figures.  In short, it's a great concept, but unlikely to happen. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I thought the idea was to knock out a lane of traffic to make this? I admit I mostly looked at the pictures and charts, (didn't read, lol jpg) but if you go over to Dallas street just east of Caroline you'll see where they did something similar to create a huge sidewalk (I think it's still being worked on, I haven't ridden, or drive by in about 6 months) area. 

 

I'll hop the bicycle and ride around over there soon and take some photos, if I get unlazy.

 

For a completely off the wall type thing, I'd not be against the city making an ordinance that targets undeveloped land in the CBD that encourages them to plant trees and green up the spaces they have a bit.

Edited by samagon
Link to comment
Share on other sites

This proposal is really neat. However, the City does not own the needed right of way. Unless the land is donated, the acquisition costs (through eminent domain), would likely reach eight figures. In short, it's a great concept, but unlikely to happen.

Incorrect. The city owns all of the right of way necessary for the revised version, as is specifically discussed in the linked article.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ooooh, no. I love green urban areas with decent tree cover. Especially considering the absolute necessity of shade in this city. "Urban" doesn't have to mean Manhattan. 

 

Yeah but as i said in another post, this city seems to be over-doing the park/tree thing. I want to see more urban storefronts and walkable areas. Why does it seem that all these others cities such as Atlanta, Dallas, and Denver can create nice urban mixed use developments with storefronts and retail why Houston just chooses the cheap and boring route? I do not want this city to be just filled with parks everywhere. This city seems to be already developing a mindset to me that it's okay just throwing up a boring park on every block instead of adding more mixed use and other things to the city flavor.

 

My rant has nothing to do with this project, in fact, I think its a great project. I guess your post just brought out how I feel the many minds of this city and the park thing seems to be the direction this city is going. I want to see more Post Midtown Squares, Hanover Rice Villages, Mix @ Midtowns.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Parks are great, but I don't want that to be the city's only solution to development. You can go to a park anywhere in the boring suburbs. Why must the "city" be filled with them?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeah but as i said in another post, this city seems to be over-doing the park/tree thing. I want to see more urban storefronts and walkable areas. Why does it seem that all these others cities such as Atlanta, Dallas, and Denver can create nice urban mixed use developments with storefronts and retail why Houston just chooses the cheap and boring route? I do not want this city to be just filled with parks everywhere. This city seems to be already developing a mindset to me that it's okay just throwing up a boring park on every block instead of adding more mixed use and other things to the city flavor.

 

My rant has nothing to do with this project, in fact, I think its a great project. I guess your post just brought out how I feel the many minds of this city and the park thing seems to be the direction this city is going. I want to see more Post Midtown Squares, Hanover Rice Villages, Mix @ Midtowns.

 

Don't get me wrong, I think Parks are great, but I don't want that to be the city's only solution to development. You can go to a park anywhere in the boring suburbs. Why must the "city" be filled with them?

I think that the idea in this case is to use the linear parks to encourage development of the kind that you're looking for. Calling these "parks" without the 10' easement is really a stretch anyway. It's much closer to a complete streets project.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

City parks are waaaaaay better than parks in the suburbs. I mean there is a clear distinction between an nice urban park to fill the gap between developments and a park created just because there is a need to bring use to the land. The suburbs have parks because there is so much land that some of that has to be dedicated to quality of life, otherwise you have nothing but layer after layer of boring homes. I agree with livincinco that  this is a project geared more towards complete streets.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

City parks are multi use public entertainment spots.  Suburban parks are places to take small children when they start to drive you crazy.

Suburban parks also provide larger and longer spaces to do other things that city parks can't do. You can bike from the Beltway all the way to Fry road via Terry Hershey and George Bush parks and never encounter a car or have to cross a road. Plus there's room for soccer, football, baseball and even dedicated spots for flying model airplanes and model rockets. Having both types (city and suburban) in abundance is what makes Houston a pretty good place to live.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

This video is a presentation of the southern downtown assessment study of which kirksey piggy backed on.

They are really focusing on the southern part of downtown which I'm pleasantly surprised about.

One of their key objectives is to get affordable housing in the southeast quadrant because it is the cheapest part of downtown, and therefore the most logical place for developers to build. Their thinking is that it will also kick off a more lively street scene which will hopefully encourage and spill over to the north and northwest areas of downtown.

They also think a key element is a more passive/cultural park as opposed to a destination park like DG, which i think is great. DG, Memorial and Hermann park are awesome, but these type of parks is what I really like.

Like Kirksey, they also have an idea to make a linear park, but I was unclear where and how long it would be.

From their tone and language, it seemed like they were confident this is something that will happen.

https://vimeo.com/62430227

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...