BigFootsSocks Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 18 hours ago, Purdueenginerd said: I thought it was reported that welding some components on or near the roof was the source of the fire? That destroys the dramatic narrative we're trying to push here; ghosts? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, BigFootsSocks said: That destroys the dramatic narrative we're trying to push here; ghosts? oh, my bad. Let me rephrase:I thought it was reported that GHOSTS were welding some components on or near the roof was the source of the fire? Edited February 14, 2017 by Purdueenginerd 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 New update; Polterghooosts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADCS Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 16 months later, WTI's hovering around $70/bbl. Any news on this project? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregpet Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 It is interesting all of the stalled projects in this area (which is my neighborhood): This one, Sunrise MF @ W Clay & Montrose, Regent Square (since 2005!), development planned for site next to Fed (MF/hotel/office). There is also the site at Allen Parkway & Montrose that seems will never get developed. I guess the RE is so expensive no one wants to make a mistake. All the while other projects get started/completed all of the time in what I believe are less interesting locations... Thank goodness Weingarten was able to get moving on their new development at River Oaks SC and Stages was able to break ground on their new theater... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 What does RE stand for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 45 minutes ago, jmitch94 said: What does RE stand for? Real estate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Land is on the market https://dmre.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/2400-W-Dallas-OM.pdf 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 So weird...i was just thinking about this plot of land this morning on the way to work...i remember driving by when that fire was raging! wow! can't believe it has taken this long to do something with such prime real estate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 didn't @swtsig or @CREguy13 say there was something in the works here? Maybe i misread... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelimbicsystem Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I am hearing that it is under contract to Alliance Residential 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Things can change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, thelimbicsystem said: I am hearing that it is under contract to Alliance Residential 5 minutes ago, Triton said: Things can change. 😨 😕 You know something @Triton? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Avossos said: didn't @swtsig or @CREguy13 say there was something in the works here? Maybe i misread... I recall this as well, maybe the listing will be updated once the deal is done 22 minutes ago, thelimbicsystem said: I am hearing that it is under contract to Alliance Residential Meh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Triton said: Things can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Prefer a high rise. Buffalo Bayou needs more shade. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibletrees Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, hindesky said: Prefer a high rise. Buffalo Bayou needs more shade. Hmmm from that location you would need a supertall tower. Edited June 20, 2019 by invisibletrees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooljunkie Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 The HHA has been vague about a specific development site along "West Dallas" (likely for good reason) but the map shown in the latest press release looks to be at this location. The unit count is similar to the one that burned. Again...no idea if this is the site. Anyone know? This looks to be a site they are hoping to add as part of their new, mixed-income approach. http://www.housingforhouston.com/media/56372/august 2019 board report.pdf (p61-64) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PTjtKsqvkGyv7rgOatspN7VwHzmqgUlF/view 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I agree. The red dot on the map on page 2 (located in the first 'o' in 'Houston') aligns exactly with that site. While a greater number of affordable housing units are desperately needed in Houston, building them in an area where luxury high-rises are springing up like mushrooms seems like an odd choice. Surely a less expensive site could be found that's conveniently located (while not in a slum or industrial area), and the money saved applied to the construction of more units. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 11 hours ago, dbigtex56 said: While a greater number of affordable housing units are desperately needed in Houston, building them in an area where luxury high-rises are springing up like mushrooms seems like an odd choice. I'm sure all of those luxury highrises need maids, maintenance, valet, lawn crew, etc. Projects like this put the workforce near the work. And if highrise people don't want their maid living in the same neighborhood, they should just clean their own home. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, phillip_white said: I'm sure all of those luxury highrises need maids, maintenance, valet, lawn crew, etc. Projects like this put the workforce near the work. And if highrise people don't want their maid living in the same neighborhood, they should just clean their own home. Can you give an example of that here because they can never seem to explain how exactly "local" workforce people are going to be given those units versus people who work in other sides of town. All for putting things in high opportunity zones but claiming it is for local maids and gardeners is a farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 On 5/1/2020 at 9:35 AM, iah77 said: Can you give an example of that here because they can never seem to explain how exactly "local" workforce people are going to be given those units versus people who work in other sides of town. All for putting things in high opportunity zones but claiming it is for local maids and gardeners is a farce. I can't give you an example of a project that restricts housing to only those that work nearby (it's probably illegal). But you can imagine that someone who spend an hour or more on the bus to get to work would jump at the opportunity to live closer without paying a rental rate that is a significant portion of their income. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 58 minutes ago, phillip_white said: I can't give you an example of a project that restricts housing to only those that work nearby (it's probably illegal). But you can imagine that someone who spend an hour or more on the bus to get to work would jump at the opportunity to live closer without paying a rental rate that is a significant portion of their income. It isn't legal which is why the local workforce argument never works lol, and I promise these people won't be taking the bus which is why the project will most likely have the same size garage as any other project would. I think it would be visionary if they didn't have a garage to make this argument stronger so people who actually need to be close and use public transportation would actually live there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/1/2020 at 8:07 AM, phillip_white said: I'm sure all of those luxury highrises need maids, maintenance, valet, lawn crew, etc. Projects like this put the workforce near the work. And if highrise people don't want their maid living in the same neighborhood, they should just clean their own home. In that case, the logical solution would be to include servants' quarters when planning luxury highrises. However, some workers may question such a paternalistic approach, as it raises concerns about their employment and housing being so closely tied. The "highrise people" you describe seem implausible, like characters in some lowbrow sit-com. However, if they existed I'm sure they'd appreciate the advice. I don't know how to make my point any clearer. I want as much affordable housing as possible, not in an inconveniently located crappy neighborhood, but not wasting money on overly expensive real estate either. Seems pretty reasonable to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 But there's nothing objective about any of that. What's "overly expensive real estate"? What's "an inconveniently located crappy neighborhood"? This property is undoubtedly expensive, but I'm also pretty confident that it's cheaper than a comparable amount of land downtown. Cost of land *cannot* be the only determinant, or you're just replicating market forces and ending up with "affordable" housing in increasingly marginalized areas with worse and more expensive commutes. This lot actually seems like a perfect compromise: it's close enough to downtown and the service rich Montrose to be convenient, but it's not right in the middle so it's likely a bit cheaper. It's close enough to Buffalo Bayou to be convenient for recreation and exercise, but it's separated from it by a cemetery so there should be a bit less of a premium. There are multiple non-car transportation options nearby: buses and planned bike lanes on W Dallas, trails along the bayou. If this lot doesn't meet your criteria, then where would? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Texasota said: What's "overly expensive real estate"? What's "an inconveniently located crappy neighborhood"? 1. Montrose, the Heights 2. Cloverleaf, Galena Park 1 hour ago, Texasota said: Cost of land *cannot* be the only determinant, or you're just replicating market forces and ending up with "affordable" housing in increasingly marginalized areas with worse and more expensive commutes. Did I say that cost of land should be the only determinant? Did I even suggest that? No. I took pains to explain that's NOT what I meant. Your remarks are appropriate and applicable to places such as Vail, or Aspen, or even San Francisco, where there is a real shortage of affordable housing within commuting distance for those in the service industries. Houston? Not so much. "If this lot doesn't meet your criteria, then where would?" There's property on the East Side, and in the Astrodome/610 area that is not what I'd call "increasingly marginalized". I'm betting that the land goes for less than it does in the 77019 zip code. Further, the potential for development adjacent to the Light Rail lines has not been fully realized. These areas would take advantage of efficient transportation while also boosting ridership numbers. I think I understand your concerns. We don't want to repeat the public housing mistakes that were made in the 1950's and 60's that have had such long-term bad effects on our society. Nor do I. So let me say it one more time. We need to build affordable housing, and much more of it. It should be built in places where people would actually like to live. And it's preferable to build a greater number of units in a moderately priced area than fewer units in an expensive area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMU1213 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Texasota said: But there's nothing objective about any of that. What's "overly expensive real estate"? What's "an inconveniently located crappy neighborhood"? This property is undoubtedly expensive, but I'm also pretty confident that it's cheaper than a comparable amount of land downtown. Cost of land *cannot* be the only determinant, or you're just replicating market forces and ending up with "affordable" housing in increasingly marginalized areas with worse and more expensive commutes. This lot actually seems like a perfect compromise: it's close enough to downtown and the service rich Montrose to be convenient, but it's not right in the middle so it's likely a bit cheaper. It's close enough to Buffalo Bayou to be convenient for recreation and exercise, but it's separated from it by a cemetery so there should be a bit less of a premium. There are multiple non-car transportation options nearby: buses and planned bike lanes on W Dallas, trails along the bayou. If this lot doesn't meet your criteria, then where would? You realize that land by the bayou is worth about twice as much as land less than a mile away right? They could put affordable housing by the lower heights district for land about 40% less than this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, SMU1213 said: You realize that land by the bayou is worth about twice as much as land less than a mile away right? They could put affordable housing by the lower heights district for land about 40% less than this site. They are putting affordable senior housing along the bayou near Old Sixth Ward... that is some expensive real estate. Lower heights / First Ward / Old Sixth Ward will definitely have new affordable options. Perhaps they choose location based the diversification of housing options in an area, as opposed to strictly land price / cheapest options. Edited May 5, 2020 by Avossos 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 hour ago, dbigtex56 said: 1. Montrose, the Heights 2. Cloverleaf, Galena Park Did I say that cost of land should be the only determinant? Did I even suggest that? No. I took pains to explain that's NOT what I meant. You cannot just exclude Montrose and the Heights entirely from affordable housing placement, and if you're starting with that assumption then you must be doing do entirely due to the relative cost of land in those neighborhoods. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMU1213 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, Avossos said: They are putting affordable senior housing along the bayou near Old Sixth Ward... that is some expensive real estate. Lower heights / First Ward / Old Sixth Ward will definitely have new affordable options. Perhaps they choose location based the diversification of housing options in an area, as opposed to strictly land price / cheapest options. Lower Heights District is less than a mile away and you could build an additional 50 affordable units for the increase in land cost. Hopefully the city would rather have 50 additional units than build at a spot with some of the highest land values in the city less than a mile away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, SMU1213 said: Lower Heights District is less than a mile away and you could build an additional 50 affordable units for the increase in land cost. Hopefully the city would rather have 50 additional units than build at a spot with some of the highest land values in the city less than a mile away. why do you mention lower heights district specifically? Is there something in the works there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMU1213 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Just now, Avossos said: why do you mention lower heights district specifically? Is there something in the works there? No. There are multiple tracts that are on the market in that area that I know the pricing of and it is nearby, so it is a good data point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 1 minute ago, SMU1213 said: No. There are multiple tracts that are on the market in that area that I know the pricing of and it is nearby, so it is a good data point. I gotcha. I am curious what’s on the market over there. Perhaps some of the remaining warehouses along summer and party store on studemont? Maybe something on center? Lovett and Deal tens yo grab up most of the stuff. I was told the land off sawyer was purchased but the sign is still up... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 5-Story, 367-Units with garage, developed by The NRP Group. https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/TABS/Search/Project/TABS2020012825 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I have never heard of the NRP Group. I wonder if the these are going to be market rate or affordable housing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Fortune said: I have never heard of the NRP Group. I wonder if the these are going to be market rate or affordable housing. Cleveland based multi-family developer https://www.nrpgroup.com/Home/About 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Fortune said: I have never heard of the NRP Group. I wonder if the these are going to be market rate or affordable housing. According to their website... Our extensive range of projects and services includes: Luxury apartment homes Student housing Senior housing Affordable housing Single family urban development Property management Land development Design Budget development Project management Building construction Conceptual design General Construction They have a handful of properties in the Houston area. Mostly outside the Beltway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, thatguysly said: According to their website... Our extensive range of projects and services includes: Luxury apartment homes Student housing Senior housing Affordable housing Single family urban development Property management Land development Design Budget development Project management Building construction Conceptual design General Construction They have a handful of properties in the Houston area. Mostly outside the Beltway. All but two of the properties are listed as navy/affordable versus their green/market rate. The other two are aqua/senior. Either way the newer properties don't look like garbage, especially in Austin. Have really nice pools too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 New permit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 This is the building? Sketch from the architects. The drawing mentions West Gray, but I don't think NRP has property on West Gray? https://thedaviescollaborative.squarespace.com/nrp-houston 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 8:24 PM, Highrise Tower said: The drawing mentions West Gray, but I don't think NRP has property on West Gray? I don't know about this property, but am astonished at how often this happens. I've seen several renderings on HAIF where the surrounding streets are misidentified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Batch of building permits issued. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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