Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
HTexas

"New" Union Bar?

Recommended Posts

I noticed the marquee today at Union Bar on Bagby stating "OTC Now Hiring". There is a fresh coat of paint and I've seen people working on it this week. The bar started out more upscale and seemed to turn into a dive. Does anyone know anything about what is going on with the revamp? I hope they do something worthwhile since I live so close by and would enjoy a cafe or less rowdy bar!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OTC Patio Bar is a bar in Upper Kirby. They just resolved a lawsuit against them and a couple other bars by neighbors complaining they were too loud and rowdy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Facebook page confirms that they sold it.  End of an era for me as I spent quite a bit of time there years ago after it first opened

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Definitely official. I got a "Notice of Application" in the mail from TABC stating that OTC Midtown was getting a permit to sell alcoholic beverages. Owner is Strauss Bier Haus, LLC and the memo also references business partners Andy Aweida and Mohammad Baratizadeh. Hope that they turn out good. I noticed on the Facebook page that they reference "Pizza Grill"...that makes me happier that they potentially have something else to go there for other than drinks. I really enjoyed Dogwood last Thursday, but definitely have to go very early to get a seat and less noise. Beautiful place and inventive food.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes!!! I got my Notice of Application in the Mail yesterday..From OTC and dated on the App was said it was dated as sent on March 18th...As a resident here for 5-years. Having endured 5 years of Union bar Noise..drunk customers cars parking up and down the niegborhood, streets fights from union bar patrons... having the valet charge and park on public streets and on private property without the owners permissions and having the valet park acrossand block our drive way once, I have enjoyed the PEACE and QUIET since Union Bar Went under...There was a lawsuit agianst OTC and two other bars at the Kirby avenue location and i dont know if they were flushed out and into our Neighborhood..I really dont want another rude loud Bar...and i think this one is open until 2 am 7 days a week..do we want that?????? Food or not....I hope all who got their notifications will send it back in with thier concerns..we do not need another Bad Neighbor like Union Bar!!!!!!

Edited by kkirchemshk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I feel your pain brother. No zoning sucks! And its not easy to just sell your home and pick up and move. 

 

 

 

 

.

Edited by kkirchemshk

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Need more exclamation points for effect.

Lol...Just frustrated with the lack of zoning and lack of respect too the Neighbors, OTC has a history.., Union bar and it owner could of cared less with the problems they had caused us...

Thanks!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Um, it's a bar being replaced by a bar in a bar-heavy part of town. What exactly is the issue here?

 

 

Um....The Homeowners WERE Here First!!...At the least the Bar Owners (Lol) coulod try to be respectful of the Neighbors..Shame there is no zoning..Stupid Texans!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Um, it's a bar being replaced by a bar in a bar-heavy part of town. What exactly is the issue here?

 

They didn't like the bar that was there before either. So the issue is that they don't like a rowdy bar being next to them.

Edited by kylejack

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I will admit, OTC would not be my first choice if I lived in the area. Nevertheless, youre judging a bar that hasnt even opened yet. I just wonder if you would be happy with *any* similar business in that location. Your townhouse may have been there before Union, but not before the building itself, which was clearly retail. Bagby is not exactly a quiet, neighborhood street, so, particularly considering the lack of zoning, there was always a risk of a rowdy bar moving in.

 

And yes, if Texans are stupid, what exactly are you?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I will admit, OTC would not be my first choice if I lived in the area. Nevertheless, youre judging a bar that hasnt even opened yet.

 

OTC already has another location that has had problems with a neighbor. What's wrong with judging something from prior acts just because it hasn't opened this particular location yet? It's a free country and they're free to judge.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not judging them for being anti-OTC. I am also anti-OTC. But, at the very least, the staff will be largely different between the two locations. I'm sure there will be some overlap, but if the manager and most of the staff are different, it's at least possible that the bagby location will be run a bit differently, at least in terms of how it relates to the neighborhood. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hmm...and you'd like sympathy from me? 

 

Good luck.

No,

I will admit, OTC would not be my first choice if I lived in the area. Nevertheless, youre judging a bar that hasnt even opened yet. I just wonder if you would be happy with *any* similar business in that location. Your townhouse may have been there before Union, but not before the building itself, which was clearly retail. Bagby is not exactly a quiet, neighborhood street, so, particularly considering the lack of zoning, there was always a risk of a rowdy bar moving in.

 

And yes, if Texans are stupid, what exactly are you?

Not a Texan...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not judging them for being anti-OTC. I am also anti-OTC. But, at the very least, the staff will be largely different between the two locations. I'm sure there will be some overlap, but if the manager and most of the staff are different, it's at least possible that the bagby location will be run a bit differently, at least in terms of how it relates to the neighborhood. 

 

Well, if OTC has had a history of being a problem in the kirby Location then I guess I would be worried that the second location might be as well..we are just tired of what went on with Union Bar...Google OTC lawsuit...the majority of people who frequent these clubs and bars do not live here..I just do not want to live in another washington street...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's a tough choice. Some neighborhoods are predictably quiet, safe - and boring.Others are stimulating, have a 'cool' factor, convenient - and are overrun by irritating people. To coin a phrase, Caveat emptor. If you move to a tourist town, don't complain about tourism. 

 

One of the disadvantages of having no zoning in Houston is that the same laws apply to nightclub districts as to traditionally residential areas. Any fool who moves into a new townhome next door to an existing bar have the same rights as the person who chooses a more traditionally residential neighborhood. On the other hand, some businesses which have thrived for years suddenly has to curtail live music if a neighbor complains - and the incentive to open a venue where live music can be performed is compromised. 

 

At any rate, I hope the new occupants are better than the previous ones. Good luck!

 

Yes!!! I got my Notice of Application in the Mail yesterday..From OTC and dated on the App was said it was dated as sent on March 18th...As a resident here for 5-years. Having endured 5 years of Union bar Noise..drunk customers cars parking up and down the niegborhood, streets fights from union bar patrons... having the valet charge and park on public streets and on private property without the owners permissions and having the valet park acrossand block our drive way once, I have enjoyed the PEACE and QUIET since Union Bar Went under...There was a lawsuit agianst OTC and two other bars at the Kirby avenue location and i dont know if they were flushed out and into our Neighborhood..I really dont want another rude loud Bar...and i think this one is open until 2 am 7 days a week..do we want that?????? Food or not....I hope all who got their notifications will send it back in with thier concerns..we do not need another Bad Neighbor like Union Bar!!!!!!

 

 

I feel your pain brother. No zoning sucks! And its not easy to just sell your home and pick up and move. 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No,

Not a Texan...

 

Clearly. But, you don't seem to be complaining about padding your bank account with Texas earned money while complaining about stupid Texans.

 

 

 

By the way, we are stupid Houstonians. The rest of the state has the zoning that you prefer...and that we Houstonians have specifically rejected. More than once.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The OTC Bar will will be open 7 days a week until 2 am..already they are Violating agreements about the building with tabc and the Neighbors...I Urge **EVERY NEIGHBOR** to fill out the TABC app that was sent and protest the Application that OTC is applying for..by the way they will be operating on Union bars Liquor License for the time being until OTC gets their approval.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Clearly. But, you don't seem to be complaining about padding your bank account with Texas earned money while complaining about stupid Texans.

 

 

 

By the way, we are stupid Houstonians. The rest of the state has the zoning that you prefer...and that we Houstonians have specifically rejected. More than once.

 

And you'll find the same sort of disputes raging in cities with zoning...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And you'll find the same sort of disputes raging in cities with zoning...

 

I know, but since this person was blaming a noisy bar on lack of zoning, I doubted she would get that point.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If a bar is going to have live music then that bar should have the proper sound proofing of their building so that people outside of that bar CAN'T hear anything.

 

For all of you saying "Well you moved in knowing there was a bar nearby", what if you lived in a neighborhood for over 20+ years and then one day someone decides to turn the house next to yours into a bar. How are you going to feel then? 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If a bar is going to have live music then that bar should have the proper sound proofing of their building so that people outside of that bar CAN'T hear anything.

 

For all of you saying "Well you moved in knowing there was a bar nearby", what if you lived in a neighborhood for over 20+ years and then one day someone decides to turn the house next to yours into a bar. How are you going to feel then? 

 

 

How many of the people in the red townhouses lived in Midtown in 1993? Were those buildings even made at that time?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sorry, but the first part of the typical argument, "you're new you can't complain" is just as stupid as the second part, "they were here before you were and have tenure to ignore ordinances or laws that have not been enforced."

To the homeowner: You knew what you were getting into when you bought.

To a nuisance business: You knew what you were getting away with before people started complaining.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@daniepwils

 

Great. Way more convenient to get home at the end of the night.

 

Edited by Texasota

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What happened to OTC Midtown?? There is now nothing on the marquee after they have redone the outside and most likely inside of the bar. Thought it would be open now. Just curious if anyone knows the status of a grand opening.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope I'm wrong but there is something about that spot that is just not right. The way it was originally built was tacky and I don't know if they can get rid of that feel.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have to agree...that cinder block wall doesn't help the bar and the lack of parking isn't great. I was excited for OTC Midtown. Sounded like they would have some good food in addition to drinks. I didn't see the reference on Facebook as to a grand opening. Passing by with nothing on the marquee and no signs of opening, I thought they may have run out of money before opening up.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

×
×
  • Create New...