Hugh Stone Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) @ livincinco: My point is that the 'damage' that a really ugly attention grabbing decorative crown on a very tall downtown building could make the downtown Houston skyline less beautiful and also that not all crowns are beautiful. Some are beautiful. If downtown Houston gets lucky enough to get a another beautiful one I will be very happy. But don't assume that just any building with a decorative crown is automatically going to be better than a boring flat roofed box. A bad over the top design is way worse than a little too simple boring design -IMO. At least people don't notice boring buildings as much and its boringness is usually just confined to itself. But something that commands undesirable attention is way worse. It hurts everything around it because it draws the eye to it. I never said or suggested that an ugly crown would hurt business or new construction. This is simply about aesthetics and of course it is personal taste. BTW, just about every post on this thread is about personal taste - and making sure that everyone is thoroughly aware of his or her opinion. Remember all those posts from the same people about how boring the new Chevron tower is going to be? There are a lot. I don't care about the Memorial area, they can build as many hideous, pointy crowns as they want out there. I was only using it as an example to make my point. They don't have a world class skyline to protect, like downtown Houston does. Edited July 23, 2013 by Hugh Stone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 @ livincinco: My point is that the 'damage' that a really ugly attention grabbing decorative crown on a very tall downtown building could make the downtown Houston skyline less beautiful and also that not all crowns are beautiful. Some are beautiful. If downtown Houston gets lucky enough to get a another beautiful one I will be very happy. But don't assume that just any building with a decorative crown is automatically going to be better than a boring flat roofed box. A bad over the top design is way worse than a little too simple boring design -IMO. At least people don't notice boring buildings as much and its boringness is usually just confined to itself. But something that commands undesirable attention is way worse. It hurts everything around it because it draws the eye to it. I never said or suggested that an ugly crown would hurt business or new construction. This is simply about aesthetics and of course it is personal taste. BTW, just about every post on this thread is about personal taste - and making sure that everyone is thoroughly aware of his or her opinion. Remember all those posts from the same people about how boring the new Chevron tower is going to be? There are a lot. I don't care about the Memorial area, they can build as many hideous, pointy crowns as they want out there. I was only using it as an example to make my point. They don't have a world class skyline to protect, like downtown Houston does. agreed......and it took awhile, but i just got your name. i was thinking, i agree with this "stone" guy. i had a neighbor named hugh once.....and then ohhhhhhhh. i'm a little slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 was,nt the tax rebate vote today ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 was,nt the tax rebate vote today ? Looks like it's not for a couple weeks. http://app1.kuhf.org/articles/1374679057-Chevrons-Planned-Houston-Expansion-Cheers-Houston-Councilmembers.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Tax Abatement for Chevron Passed. https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2013/08/houston-city-council-passes-downtown.html 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Cool! Chevron can start the tower on it first quarter of next year. I friend of mine is trying to get a job there. He works for ExxonMobil and does not want to go to their new headquarters in Spring. He designs pipelines and gas lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 They may start sooner then we think. They have to relocate a sewer line before they can start the foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 the prime contractor has not yet been selected. they also have a ways to go on finishing design. I think that a first quarter 2014 start is a bit too ambitious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) wasnt Chevron the ones that stated the 1st (edit, its 2nd) quarter 2014 starting date? it doesnt look like there is much more to the design than the renderings show? look how detailed the podium looks. seems like they have a few things designed already? Edited August 8, 2013 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 wasnt Chevron the ones that stated the 1st quarter 2014 starting date? it doesnt look like there is much more to the design than the renderings show? look how detailed the podium looks. seems like they have a few things designed already?Construction is expected to begin after the second quarter of next year.http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/2013/07/chevron-to-build-downtown-tower/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 oh 2nd quarter, thanks. maybe i was getting 1st quarter confused with another project happening downtown. so many its hard to keep up with them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Excellent! I am so stoked that DT is getting some plus 30 storey towers. Still crossing fingers for a 1000 plus footer but won't complain. But also know realistically that if the five or so office towers that may be going up are the major energy companies, we may have a very long wait before an 80 or more storey tower goes up DT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Before pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) Will this building exceed/surpass Continental 1 in height? Edited August 8, 2013 by wxman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 From the angle of the renderings it does appear it will be taller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouCityMan Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I think it will be as well, maybe by 50-100 feet, somewhere in there. I am holding out hope for some additional floors, hehehe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 It looks like it'll come in over 800 feet which would make it the 4th tallest in the city! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I agree with all of the recent posts. It looks to be taller than the continental center, and I'd say its over 800' as well. It's about the equivalent of a 58 story building (counting the podium and double story floors). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 The building is around 830 ft tall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The building is around 830 ft tall. Sweet. This will be our first 800 footer. (800'-899') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Owl Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 has anybody seen the "other side" of this building? the one visible in most of the Houston skyline photos, like if you were driving down Memorial into downtown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) The building is around 830 ft tall. very cool, thanks for the info. thats the first time ive heard a solid number. Sweet. This will be our first 800 footer. (800'-899')i was thinking the same when i first realized this would be at least 800' tall. its about time.. it will be the first building over 800' in Texas since 1985.it will be the 6th tallest building in the state. Edited August 8, 2013 by cloud713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 They should shoot for 832'. Then get somebody to put up a 713' tower. Ludacris would approve. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The building is around 830 ft tall.may i ask how you know this information? it sounds pretty accurate to me, i just havent seen any numbers put out there before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 may i ask how you know this information? it sounds pretty accurate to me, i just havent seen any numbers put out there before.This ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 may i ask how you know this information? it sounds pretty accurate to me, i just havent seen any numbers put out there before. One of the elevator subcontractors that I work with told me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 awesome. thanks again for the info. this one will be about 100' taller than the Continental tower. it should make a solid impact on the skyline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 heres the rendering again for height comparison so no one has to dig back multiple pages to find it. looking back at it, it looks to be a good bit taller than continental. i didnt realize it would be 100', but the rendering seems to verify the height info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Man, this is a huge building. Craziness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 right? and to think, they could of (many would say should of, heh) easily slapped an architectural feature/spire on the roof and made this sucker a supertall, a la the 55 story Bank of America Plaza in Atlanta, or the 54 story Bank of America Tower in NY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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