lockmat Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 whenever someone decides to post it Maybe he is implying it is already out there. We just need to find it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Yay. Hines does it again. Will any other major developers in town raise their games to match Hines? Also excited to hear about the Linbeck Tower... that's the one for the Southern part of Market Square, right? If so, I actually would prefer something shorter than a 50 story tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 linbeck recently knocked it down from 50 stories to 41 or 42 i believe.It's too bad both Linbeck and Hines scaled back their projects. Hopefully a major relocation or expansion downtown causes one of them to change their minds. Anything is better then what's there now though so as long as they go through it's a win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 What's funny is that this brochure was published two days ago.Who markets for linebeck, anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Ok, in one of those renderings, there's a building directly behind the Esperson Building that I cannot place. Am I having a brain fart and missing something obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The one on the right? The othe glass tower? If that's what you are talking about I had the same exact trouble. I'm pretty sure that is BG Place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's BG Group Place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Welcome to Houston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I checked on Whois.com and 609main.com is registered to Hines. However when I go there nothing shows up.I'm looking towards one of their videos bc I am curious what the skinny curved side looks like. I'm assuming they don't have a rendering of it bc it would show more of the garage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I was thinking it might be BG Group Place but I don't think I've ever seen it from the angle. With it being BG Group Place, then this thing, as is, would appear to be about 650 feet tall. Would really love to see it taller. Main @ Texas is such a prime spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Great looking building! Made my day seeing that, really excited about this for downtown! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetJ Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 That slant in the design pleases me very much. Hines never disappoints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The first rendering was a bit confusing at first because it had "disappeared" the Chase Center across the street. It also looks like the vacant Sterling Building on the same block as the Hines project has been vanished. Does anyone know if it is slated to be demolished? My impression was that it was not sold along with the rest of the block. Will 609 Main be connected to the tunnel system? If so, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The flier says something like 'unparalleled tunnel access.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Isn't it strange how at the end of Nancy's story it says that a Hines spokesperson said a brochure has not been made public? They must mean one for Hines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonartstudent Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Does that mean it's perpendicular to tunnel access? The flier says something like 'unparalleled tunnel access.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I wonder if there are offices above where the roof starts to slant i.e., is that just a box tower with a decorative slanted roof? If you look closely at the renderings, it would appear that especially in the dusk-time photos the office lights end directly below where the slanted roof begins. It would appear to me that it's a box tower with a decorative slanted roof. Even in the photo viewing the tower from the north, the slanted roof portion is clearly lighter than the rest of the building. So I suppose the big question now (besides how tall this thing really is going to be.. hopefully taller) is how this tower looks from the east since we haven't been provided with that angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Isn't it strange how at the end of Nancy's story it says that a Hines spokesperson said a brochure has not been made public?I think the key term is public. Colville does some of their leasing so it's no wonder they had a brochure advertising the tower. Since it says they just started marketing the tower, they probably wanted to hammer out some more details before they ran an article in the Chron or something. Does Hines have information leaked often though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) I think the key term is public. Colville does some of their leasing so it's no wonder they had a brochure advertising the tower. Since it says they just started marketing the tower, they probably wanted to hammer out some more details before they ran an article in the Chron or something. Does Hines have information leaked often though?You would think they were on the same page as far as the release of the brochure. Adding to my confusion was thinking that Coy Davidson's company was releasing it, but its not. He works for Colliers and Colvill made the brochure. I'm curious how he got his hands on it.Edit: it's in the photo roll on their website, so they are obviously not hiding ithttp://www.colvilloffice.com/houston_home.htmlAlso listed in their properties http://www.colvilloffice.com/houston_portfolio.php# Edited March 15, 2013 by lockmat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 This is a wider shot of a previous rendering Also, Colvills app says there is space for a restaraunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister X Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I also like how the slant will direct eyes towards Texas' tallest building a block over. One of the things I have always admired about the Houston downtown skyline is how most of the tall buildings work together as a cohesive unit. Glad to see this tradition live on with this new tower. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Nice chamfers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 maybe the building is going to open the tunnels to street level in a way we have not seen before? two level retail that opens street level and at the tunnel level would be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 This is just such a beautiful tower... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 The flier says something like 'unparalleled tunnel access.' You're right. I wonder what that means. Is it possible that Hines is leaking the plans for this building to get a leg up on potentially competing projects for the Capitol Tower (Houston Club Block) and Linbeck on Market Square? Note merged topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I don't know the tunnel system but could it just be that they are centrally located or simply near more desirable stores and restaurants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Centrally located is what I took from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Centrally located is what I took from it.But this building is not centrally located on the tunnel system. I'd chalk it up to developer/marketer hyperbole. Edited March 16, 2013 by Houston19514 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Seems as if they took the brochure down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It's still on their app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Tunnel map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208557532588506606958.0004cbcbfdb789c392269&msa=0 I don't know about unparalleled...They can hook to one tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 The address of 609 Main makes me think they are leaving room for ground floor retail, otherwise why not just name it 601 Main? I count 51 floors from bottom to top; that's assuming the top levels are occupied though. This won't be the greatest design Hines has ever done in Houston, and probably won't crack the top five, but it's better than what's there now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I count 51 floors from bottom to top; that's assuming the top levels are occupied though. Well I certainly hope it's taller but as the renderings show, I believe it really is 41 floors in its current form. Again, if you look closely right above the 41st floor, the windows become more transparent. Even the office lights end about 7 stories from the very top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I wish this would have been on the east side of highway 59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChannelTwoNews Posted March 17, 2013 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 17, 2013 So I was bored and decided to play with Google Earth + Sketchup to at least attempt to get a feel for how a building of this size and shape would interact with the skyline. I played with the top peak of the roof, and saw that either way - if it's 650 - 700 feet, it'll show up better from some views than others. I also tried to match it up with some of the early renderings out there for perspective... -From Around UHD -Dynamo Stadium -Minute Maid Park -Eleanor Tinsley Park (just behind Pennzoil Place) -Midtown, at the Superblock (That small fin just above BG Group Place) -45 N @ Quitman, minus the newer flyover, or the "other" traditional skyline view 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golyadkin Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The only thing I'm not liking about this tower is that it will almost completely block the view of BG Group place for people driving in on 59 and I-10 on the east side of town, which is one of the best angles to see that tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Dang, intel flying off the hinges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoothrewpoo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Are you referring to the Hines or the Chevron tower? Chevron. The only thing I know about the Hines Tower, is that there are 3 different tenants looking for half a million square feet (each) of Class A space in downtown, and Hines is in a race to supply space to one of them. Of course, that didn't come from Hines directly, so it's probably more speculation than anything. Edited March 18, 2013 by hoothrewpoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moore713 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) Chevron. The only thing I know about the Hines Tower, is that there are 3 different tenants looking for half a million square feet (each) of Class A space in downtown, and Hines is in a race to supply space to one of them. Of course, that didn't come from Hines directly, so it's probably more speculation than anything. You would think all this so called demand would light a fire under them... Some of these companies have had plans on the board for years and yet they still seem to drag their feet. Edited March 18, 2013 by Moore713 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoothrewpoo Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nothing meaningful in this article, other than Pickard Chilton being retained by Hines to design their new tower: http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/2013/03/a-conceptual-look-at-the-new-hines-office-tower/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I guess that with the new Hines development, they'll finally tear down the old Sterling Bank building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I guess that with the new Hines development, they'll finally tear down the old Sterling building. I was under the impression not. The old Shamrock Tower proposal for the site only utilized 3/4 of the block, and there hasn't been any news that I've heard about the remaining quarter block with the Sterling Building changing hands. It wouldn't be a big loss though. I don't think there is much of a preservationist argument to keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchCity Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 http://swamplot.com/does-new-hines-highrise-mean-old-texas-towers-a-goner/2013-03-19/Swamplot says it's gotta go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I guess that with the new Hines development, they'll finally tear down the old Sterling Bank building. I think it was formerly the Sterling Building, not Sterling Bank Building. My impression from the renderings is that the building will go. How pathetic is it that none of the traditional journalists in town have even thought to ask the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The article mentioned that Hines owned the entire block, so I was wrong that the remaining quarter block hadn't been sold. Generally I would be all for preservation, but the art deco detailing of the Sterling Building was chopped off years ago, the quarter-block footprint would be considered insufficient now, and it has been vacant for decades. Demolition would be for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Wtf!? Wow so now we got the new residential tower in south downtown, the new convention center hotel, and now this, and we can def expect a tower on the Macys site and Houston Club site in the next couple of yrs. Our skyline is not going to be the same! Plus with added residential Houston is going to have the bustling, retail filled downtown we've been wanting! PROUD TO BE FROM H-TOWN! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greens! Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Wtf!? Wow so now we got the new residential tower in south downtown, the new convention center hotel, and now this, and we can def expect a tower on the Macys site and Houston Club site in the next couple of yrs. Our skyline is not going to be the same! Plus with added residential Houston is going to have the bustling, retail filled downtown we've been wanting! PROUD TO BE FROM H-TOWN! Not to be a downer but our skyline probably will be the same. It's going to take something pretty bold/pointy and away from the main cluster of massive buildings to make a big visual change on the skyline. But as long as things keep happening, shine on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Not to be a downer but our skyline probably will be the same. It's going to take something pretty bold/pointy and away from the main cluster of massive buildings to make a big visual change on the skyline. But as long as things keep happening, shine on! Nonsense. Every new tower adds to the skyline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Agree, every new building changes the skyline just a little more. I mean I understand what you mean, it would take something very very original to notice a difference, like an observation deck tower or some massive pointy structure. Either way the density of our downtown and the sheer structure size of everything is about to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Edit Edited April 8, 2013 by DrLan34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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