aarosurf Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Anyone know what the "floor per week" target on this is? It seems to be going up very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-TownChris2 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I would say 3/4-1 floor a week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I find it interesting that we still can see no signs of any tunnel connections. The floor plans released on the web site don't show the tunnel level (perhaps intentionally?), either. I wonder if they are still trying to make arrangements for how to connect it to the tunnel system? Or maybe they punch the hole through the wall later in the construction timeline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Thats some quite of bit of hefty shoring on the ride side. I like these photos guys, keep em coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Thats some quite of bit of hefty shoring on the ride side. I like these photos guys, keep em coming! It's interesting to see how the tub that they built doesn't appear to be bearing any of the vertical load of the building. I would guess that they beefed it up as much as they did for stabilization once all that weight is pushing down in the middle of it, and all the soil away from the property needs to stay where it is. But I'm just guessing, I'd like to know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Third crane rising. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I would post pictures but going from full version to mobile version is insanely difficult for this site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 For real, so incredibly annoying that there's no option for that on mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hindesky Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-TownChris2 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 ITS ABOUT TIME!^.^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 For real, so incredibly annoying that there's no option for that on mobileTapatalk is the app HAIF runs on and you can post photos that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Thnx based lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 This morning. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) You know... I've been thinking its a shame this building is just 1 block away from the biggest/tallest building Downtown. Yes we'll see 609 often enough in various angles on the skyline, but the "iconic" Houston shot from Eleanor Tinsley Park will not have said building visible. Personally I'm not a big fan of that view because the 40-50 floor towers along Smith Street typically obscure many of the other buildings in Downtown. (by the way: thanks for the continual photo updates folks - its nice to see for those of us who do not work/live etc. in the central city) Edited December 8, 2014 by arche_757 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-TownChris2 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 609 Main @ Texas by H-TownChris, on Flickr 609 Main @ Texas by H-TownChris, on Flickr 609 Main @ Texas by H-TownChris, on Flickr 609 Main @ Texas by H-TownChris, on Flickr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 You know... I've been thinking its a shame this building is just 1 block away from the biggest/tallest building Downtown. Yes we'll see 609 often enough in various angles on the skyline, but the "iconic" Houston shot from Eleanor Tinsley Park will not have said building visible.Personally I'm not a big fan of that view because the 40-50 floor towers along Smith Street typically obscure many of the other buildings in Downtown.(by the way: thanks for the continual photo updates folks - its nice to see for those of us who do not work/live etc. in the central city)I get your point, and agree in a sense. I almost wish this was built in Uptown or somewhere it would stand out a little more, but you should be able to see the top of this tower from the west side view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 In no way would I want this in uptown. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It would look WAY out of place in midtown. I don't know that I'd want this along Post Oak either. It has a very downtown/corporate look to it. I just wonder if this building will be the capstone to this building boom---much like Heritage Plaza was in 1989. The last signature tower if you will before everything folds up due to collapsing oil prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It would look WAY out of place in midtown. I don't know that I'd want this along Post Oak either. It has a very downtown/corporate look to it. I just wonder if this building will be the capstone to this building boom---much like Heritage Plaza was in 1989. The last signature tower if you will before everything folds up due to collapsing oil prices.The last signature tower in this building boom ? It's the first and only signature tower to be built in this building boom . . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 It would look WAY out of place in midtown. I don't know that I'd want this along Post Oak either. It has a very downtown/corporate look to it. I just wonder if this building will be the capstone to this building boom---much like Heritage Plaza was in 1989. The last signature tower if you will before everything folds up due to collapsing oil prices. The only tower, you mean? Hillcorp doesnt count. The last signature tower in this building boom ? It's the first and only signature tower to be built in this building boom . . . Not quite - You've got Hillcorp / Capitol Tower / 800 Bell Reno / Chevron possibly... They have not 'overbuilt' downtown like the 80s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 The only tower, you mean? Hillcorp doesnt count.Not quite - You've got Hillcorp / Capitol Tower / 800 Bell Reno / Chevron possibly... They have not 'overbuilt' downtown like the 80s.The key word is SIGNATURE. I don't think Hillcorp is considered a signature tower. I don't think Capital Tower is considered a signature tower, it's just a box and it hasn't broke ground yet. 800 Bell is a renovation and Chevron is a proposal. Like I said this building is the one and only SIGNATURE tower to be built so far in this boom. There have been lots of buildings built during this boom lots of office space but this is the only tower that I think can be considered as Signature. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fkp5 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Great shot. I love the view of the Gulf Building from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) The key word is SIGNATURE. I don't think Hillcorp is considered a signature tower. I don't think Capital Tower is considered a signature tower, it's just a box and it hasn't broke ground yet. 800 Bell is a renovation and Chevron is a proposal. Like I said this building is the one and only SIGNATURE tower to be built so far in this boom. There have been lots of buildings built during this boom lots of office space but this is the only tower that I think can be considered as Signature.Signature is subjective. This design is recycled from two other projects from the architect. While it is a nice, new, and a clean design it's certainly not going to be mentioned in any award ceremonies or one for the history books... If anything it is a flag (so to speak), that Houston has a sliver of demand for ultra elite office space (really a standard seen world wide in the financial capitals). I know most buidings going up right now are offering luxury office space but not quite on this platform. It's a milestone for our city. Not too sure about SIGNATURE... Edited December 15, 2014 by Montrose1100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-TownChris2 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 Sorry It was kinda blurry 12.14.14 by H-TownChris, on Flickr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarosurf Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 This building is starting to have some major presence from street level - what a great addition to main st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 12/21 by Michi on Skyscraperpage 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Seems like its been forever since they started deconstructing Texas Tower and construction of 609M. I guess quality takes timeEdit: just saw that the concrete pour was aug 23; four months ago. that's about the time it takes to get a skyhouse from pour to topped off. Edited December 28, 2014 by HoustonIsHome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Residential towers are always quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Also the skyhouses had no underground work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 There's no reason a residential tower, which has every unit fully finished out, should be faster to build than an office tower which is often delivered as shell space. Take a look at 2929 Wesayan and Sovereign as extreme examples. Skyhouses are an exemption, their developers have figured out a way to crank out McTowers very quickly. While they may not win Architectural awards, they are great for business given their speed to market - and I would bet most potential residents don't mind the exterior look at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 You guys are kind of debating something that can't really be settled with the information we know. But I'll chime in a few extra points...The loads for a residential tower on each floor slab are normally a lot lower. The Private dwellings for multifamily apartments have live load spec of 40PSF vs 50 to 100PSF for offices (see ASCE 7: Minimum Design Loads for Buildings and Other Structures)609 Main is taller. Taller buildings mean higher wind loadsHigher loads means more hefty construction and design, which typically means more person-hours to complete the projectSpeaking of person-hours, none of us know the amount of labor crews allocated to each project. For all we know, Sky-house could have had 1000 people working on it. (exaggerating). We simply do not know the production rates of various crews.Speaking of Production, we have no idea what contractual obligations are set forth between the GC and owner. Are crews being paid by the owner to work 70 hours a week to complete the project faster or is the normal 40 hours okay? I think, In general, Bigfootsocks is correct. That is mainly because Residential towers are easier to design for, have lower loads, are generally shorter, and are generally less complex projects than a tall highrise office. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'm gonna take the structural engineer's words as fact and totally not because he said I was right.. Fernz you are right though, 2929 did take awhile but I think that's because of the point Purdue made; taller buildings require more foundation work. Sovereign also took longer because, and I'm pulling this out of my ass, it was a tower combined with a mid-rise apartment building on a full block. There has to be a lot more work done to complete something on that scale, correct? I guess a good way to find out is to see how long Catalyst takes as I believe it has a same basic structure as Sovereign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 so many factors to really say. Crew has a lot to do with it, and garage built in / design / etc. I thought my residential project would break ground in Nov. 2013 and be done Feb 2014... It broke ground in May 2014 and will be done in Feb 2015... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes, I agree taller buildings have stronger bones and take longer to build. That does not mean all office towers take longer to build than residential. The added time caused by the higher live loads is offset by the added amount in interior build out. Another obvious point to consider is floor plates. These days, a 25,000 sf plate is typical for office, whereas residential can get away with smaller floor plates. My point was that a blanket statement about use is not possible, there are too many variables. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Didn't mean to start a war. Just commenting on the point that in 4 months 609 is barely popping its head out of the ground. I know nothing of construction, just thought it would be higher by now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 1111 took a while to get started but is moving up smartly. Same thing will probably happen with this one. I'm sort of hoping the pullback in oil prices will put a hiatus on the "there is a shortage of everything" problem that Houston has had for the past year. It will be interesting to see how significant the impacts are from there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I was just looking at the oxblue construction cam for 609 Main and I zoomed into Minute Maid since the roof is open. It looks like they have something covering the outfield. Are they changing out the surface at Minute Maid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-TownChris2 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 12.27 by H-TownChris, on Flickr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 great illustration h-townchris2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rube88 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Yes, I visited the park a few weeks ago and was told they are replacing the turf. I was just looking at the oxblue construction cam for 609 Main and I zoomed into Minute Maid since the roof is open. It looks like they have something covering the outfield. Are they changing out the surface at Minute Maid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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monarch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 mlyoung83, your illustrations are incredible! rock on... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Awesome pics mlyoung83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Are you using a GoPro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlyoung83 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I use a 13 year old Canon 1Ds body for 95% of my shots. I also use a 1D Mark IIn which is 10 years old. The wider pics are multiple shots combined into one large shot. The zoom shots were done with a 70-200L with a 1.4 on it. You can also use all of Canon's high end EF zoom lenses with it. If you've ever wondered what the webcam looks like: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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