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On 4/3/2019 at 8:20 AM, samagon said:

 

I know it's more scary than the Walmart in the Heights. the one on Wayside might be a little farther, but it is much easier to get to.

 

I know the SO will be excited about Target opening a store in midtown. the Midtown Sears no one remembered was there was never really a great option for this kind of store.

 

What's "scary" about the Wayside Walmart? (seriously)

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6 hours ago, swtsig said:

 

chase is only 1.65m sf

 

currently designed, this project will span both blocks with a common amenity deck. Office about 15 stories and mf about 30-35. i'm sure that's subject to change, though.

Now I know it's Wikipedia but is this article wrong?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPMorgan_Chase_Tower_(Houston)

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10 minutes ago, Triton said:

Interesting... Wonder how they got that number then....maybe including the nearby parking garage?

 

The way Wikipedia worded it was "The JPMorgan Chase Tower, formerly Texas Commerce Tower, is a 305.4-meter (1,002-foot), 2,243,013-square-foot (208,382.7 m2),[3] 75-story skyscraper at 600 Travis Street in Downtown Houston, Texas, United States."

 

Sounds about right for Wikipedia.

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8 hours ago, swtsig said:

 

chase is only 1.65m sf

 

currently designed, this project will span both blocks with a common amenity deck. Office about 15 stories and mf about 30-35. i'm sure that's subject to change, though.


Common amenity deck, straddling the road like Greenstreet and Houston Center?

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5 hours ago, cloud713 said:


Common amenity deck, straddling the road like Greenstreet and Houston Center?

Not exactly. They would close Rosalie similar to the Morgan Whole Foods project.

 

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19 hours ago, quietstorm said:

 

What's "scary" about the Wayside Walmart? (seriously)

 

absolutely nothing, but I assume if someone chooses to drive to target/walmart in Heights, and skip the walmart on wayside (which is much easier to access from midtown), fear must be a reason for not going? not knowing it is there might be another, but fear is the likely cause.

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I think "not knowing it's there" is FAR more likely. I think there are plenty of people who have no idea what, if anything, exists east of.. I don't know, Scott maybe?

 

That said, racism is always a safe bet too.

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I've found going to Target to be much easier from downtown than going out 45 to that Walmart.  Maybe it's different in midtown

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I'd also wonder how many people view Target and Walmart interchangeably. I would personally bypass Walmart to go to Target, event if it's a longer drive/ride.

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45 minutes ago, Texasota said:

I'd also wonder how many people view Target and Walmart interchangeably. I would personally bypass Walmart to go to Target, event if it's a longer drive/ride.

 

people actually do view Target and Walmart differently. You definitely notice when you go to anything related to home decor. Target is a cheap option like Walmart, but is of better quality. Walmart is set up like your anything store while Target is set up like a true department start. In my opinion the experience is a night and day difference. I go to Walmart if I need whatever, but I go to target for something more specific.

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Anecdotally my wife and I both distinguish between target and walmart. In my opinion, especially when I was younger an had less money, Target's clothing department was superior to walmart in fashion and quality. Granted its probably been like 10 years since I'e bought Any clothing there. I prefer target for other reasons.

 

Only time I ever really go to Walmart is if I'm out of town and forgot to pack something I need. 

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I tend to like Target for inexpensive home décor or accessories. Like if I need some placemats or soap dispensers, a new doormat, or even something like a broom, I think that Target does a good job of finding things that look good.

 

If I just need something cheap that I know Walmart will have, I go there. Something like a ShopVac is probably $20 cheaper at Walmart, or a cooler, or if I want to go crazy on Christmas lights, I will save substantial $ at Walmart. Their automotive stuff costs way less than an auto parts store, and they have surprisingly good camping supplies for a fraction of Academy or REI. Wouldn't buy a tent or a backpack there, but pretty much anything else. My Ozark Trail flashlight cost about as much as batteries do for my old Surefire light and it's 90% as bright and goes about 2 years on a battery change vs. about 2 weeks with Surefire. Not a hard decision.

 

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6 minutes ago, Texasota said:

You can't rummage through clearance endcaps on a website.

 

Yeah the idea that the internet is going to kill all retail is a misnomer. Everything at some point regresses to the mean. There are trade offs to both real life and virtual stores. There times when I see something and I'm fine waiting for it, but then there are times I need something right now! Its easy to find something of quantity and low price online, but its harder to distinguish and find something of quality online and at the right price. Things that are further away from reach or I won't touch everyday I'm fine getting online, but things I will hold everyday or wear or touch its better to go to a store, at least to see what it might be like.

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10 hours ago, CREguy13 said:

Not exactly. They would close Rosalie similar to the Morgan Whole Foods project.

 

There was that notice of abandonment filed. Not sure if it was granted.

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On 8/14/2019 at 7:34 AM, CREguy13 said:

Not exactly. They would close Rosalie similar to the Morgan Whole Foods project.

 


when people need to detour off of Gray to get around something, it really helps to have Webster and Hadley intact.  These streets don't go all the way from Fourth Ward over across 288 like it does, but connect almost as well.  The city or the management district should recognize, especially if Whole Foods has made this the development epicenter, that they don't need to give up streets here to help Midtown develop anymore.  
 

After Rosalie, we'd have only Anita and McGowen for cross-street rights of way to serve as grid distributors.  That holds true all the way from Elgin to Hadley-Webster-Gray, because too many have been severed already.

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The old Van Loc Restaurant building seems to getting some renovations. 

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7 minutes ago, TheSirDingle said:

@hindesky Do you think they might turn into some sort of leasing office, or do you think it's going to be a short term retail component? 

Hopefully short term but the posting on the door didn't have any info.

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The modifications are incredibly light. Like bare minimum. Definitely looks temporary in order to get the most out of the land until something else happens. With how extensive remodels for new restaurants on old buildings have been throughout the area, this just screams temporary.

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Who applied for the permits on the yellow sheet on the door.? That might explain who and what they are doing. It definitely looks as though there is going to be some kind of drive thru window. Could even be a pharmacy. Lots of options.

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Just now, bobruss said:

Who applied for the permits on the yellow sheet on the door.? That might explain who and what they are doing. It definitely looks as though there is going to be some kind of drive thru window. Could even be a pharmacy. Lots of options.

 

maybe a drive-thru leasing office? haha

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Asked the guy in the dark clothes what they were building, he said a restaurant, I asked what kind, and he said it might be called "Hola"

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Yeah a developer has to flip these plots whenever they can...like bacon. Nobody likes burned bacon. Definitely not burned Mexican Food either...Its late I don't know what I'm saying anymore. Bascially we should expect this to not see any action for awhile in my opinion.

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The second page of the permits finally shifted, the occupant name is going to be "Ola H.......". Problem with stucco it shows all the imperfections on a building.

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6 hours ago, hindesky said:

Drive Thru Menu board.

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Looking at that, 830,000 sq feet doesn't go as far as it used to -- that or they stuffed 10 lbs of shit into a 5 lbs bag. Either way, this development is pretty underwhelming 

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On 4/25/2020 at 2:05 PM, hindesky said:

Drive Thru Menu board.

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Haha. I get it. You know because its called "The Mix". Not exactly what I had in mind though.

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This is ridiculous. This lot had the opportunity to really connect the area surrounding the Whole Foods and spur new development where those empty shopping centers are. We waited all this time with proposal after proposal for a damn drive thru restaurant. 

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4 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

This is ridiculous. This lot had the opportunity to really connect the area surrounding the Whole Foods and spur new development where those empty shopping centers are. We waited all this time with proposal after proposal for a damn drive thru restaurant. 

Maybe if we stare at the circles long enough, we'll "feel" connected to the area

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Surprise! It's a drivethrough leasing office for Houston's first megatall that will be built where the parking lot currently is. 🤣🤣🤣

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