etheriemma Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Public hearing to be held at the Southside Place City Hall Council Chambers, 6309 Edloe Ave., Southside Place, Texas, on Tuesday, January 29 at 7pm. Southside Place wants allow 45 townhomes (3-1/2 stories tall) to be built at 3747 Bellaire Blvd. (the corner of Bellaire Blvd. at Auden/Braes -- the former location of Shell Oil Research). They are seeking to rezone the property from LIM (Low Intensity Mixed Use) to PD (Planned Development) and also would like to break the building height restrictions. Houses and townhomes in that area have been limited to 2-1/2 stories in the past, but the developer (5177 Builders, Ltd., dba Lovett Homes) wants to make these new townhomes 3-1/2 stories high. People in the area, including the residents of the 3800 block of Gramercy which is located behind the Shell Oil property, have raised a number of concerns. While people welcome the land being developed and new homes being built, they question the number and height of the proposed units. Residents are worried about increased traffic; overcrowding at the two neighborhood schools Mark Twain Elementary and Pershing Middle School; overtaxing of the existing infrastructure (electric, water, sanitary sewer, gas); safety issues (for the Southside Volunteer Fire Dept. and Southside police); not to mention the aesthetic appearance of 3-1/2 story tall buildings crowded next to the busy street of Bellaire Blvd. There also concerns that as to what might happen later on to the middle parcel of land (where the main Shell Oil building and water tower are now located) and the land parcel next to the Old Farm Ditch (which is currently a parking lot and some service buildings). What happens now with the corner property might very well determine what happens later for the rest of the Shell Oil property. People who are interested in the future of this property and the neighborhoods of Southside and Braes Heights should attend the meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Why would Southside Place city planning commisioners be concerned about Braes Heights (Gramercy St.) residents concerns? Houston residents don't vote in South Place. Southside Place can do what ever Southside Place residents (voters) allow them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happytown Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'm just glad to see that thing torn down. I guess it was considered modernistic at the time it was constructed, but it's a style of architecture I have never cared for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Why would Southside Place city planning commisioners be concerned about Braes Heights (Gramercy St.) residents concerns? Houston residents don't vote in South Place. Southside Place can do what ever Southside Place residents (voters) allow them to. The North Side of Gramercy is in Southside Place.I sort of wish we had bought the house we looked at there in 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etheriemma Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Why would Southside Place city planning commisioners be concerned about Braes Heights (Gramercy St.) residents concerns? Houston residents don't vote in South Place. Southside Place can do what ever Southside Place residents (voters) allow them to. There are 12 townhomes and 16 homes on the north side of the 3700 and 3800 blocks of Gramercy St. that are located in the city of Southside Place. Additionally, any children who would live at the new townhomes would be attending Mark Twain Elementary and Pershing Middle School which are located in the Braes Heights subdivision, city of Houston, which everyone south of Bellaire Blvd. uses. Supposedly, Twain Elementary is already overcrowded. Traffic and safety issues also affect people in the neighborhood, as well as the extra burden to the utilities infrastructure of the entire area. And so, the proposed townhome development does affect people who live on Gramercy St. as well as the rest of the neighborhood to the south of Southside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog08 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'm sure at least 3-4 times as many people worked at this location than will be future residents here if the townhomes go through. I may begin to believe the concerns of traffic and infrastructure if this becomes a large apartment/mixed use building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etheriemma Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I posted this topic in the "Going Up" forum but thought it also belonged here. Public hearing to be held at the Southside Place City Hall Council Chambers, 6309 Edloe Ave., Southside Place, Texas, on Tuesday, January 29 at 7pm. Southside Place wants to allow 45 new townhomes (3-1/2 stories tall) to be built at 3747 Bellaire Blvd. (the corner of Bellaire Blvd. at Auden/Braes, the former location of Shell Oil Research). They are seeking to rezone the property from LIM (Low Intensity Mixed Use) to PD (Planned Development) and also would like to break the building height restrictions. Houses and townhomes in that area have been limited to 2-1/2 stories in the past, but the developer (5177 Builders, Ltd., dba Lovett Homes) wants to make these new townhomes 3-1/2 stories high. People in the area, including the residents of the 3800 block of Gramercy which is located behind the Shell Oil property, have raised a number of concerns. While people welcome the land being redeveloped and new homes being built, they question the number and height of the proposed units. Residents are worried about increased traffic; overcrowding at the two neighborhood schools Mark Twain Elementary and Pershing Middle School; overtaxing of the existing infrastructure (electric, water, sanitary sewer, gas); safety issues (for the Southside Volunteer Fire Dept. and Southside police); not to mention the aesthetic appearance of 3-1/2 story tall buildings crowded next to the busy street of Bellaire Blvd. There are 12 townhomes and 16 homes on the north side of the 3700 and 3800 blocks of Gramercy St. that are located in the city of Southside Place. Additionally, any children who would live at the new townhomes would be attending Mark Twain Elementary and Pershing Middle School which are located in the Braes Heights subdivision, city of Houston, which everyone south of Bellaire Blvd. uses. Supposedly, Twain Elementary is already overcrowded. There are also concerns as to what might happen later on to the middle parcel of land (where the main Shell Oil building and water tower are now located) and the land parcel next to the Old Farm Ditch (which is currently a parking lot and some service buildings). What happens now with the corner property might very well determine what happens later for the rest of the Shell Oil property. People who are interested in the future of this property and the neighborhoods of Southside and Braes Heights should attend the meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This isn't going up yet. Sure hope they get built though. Otherwise I'm tagging the watertower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Closed duplicate topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'm sure at least 3-4 times as many people worked at this location than will be future residents here if the townhomes go through. I may begin to believe the concerns of traffic and infrastructure if this becomes a large apartment/mixed use building. I pointed out in another thread that uninformed residents ALWAYS complain about traffic when opposing anything. I have to admit though, that complaining about traffic issues when replacing an office building with 45 townhomes may be the all-time greatest traffic complaint. But maybe they are right. Maybe 45 townhomes next to a 4 lane road is too much. Maybe they should just put a Whole Foods there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0123 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Not sure why anyone would be opposed to this. My kids will be going to Pershing one day so I do have some skin in the game. The nearby residents should be thanking God that the lot will be subdivided and that this isn't going to be an apartment complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etheriemma Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Maybe 45 townhomes next to a 4 lane road is too much. Maybe they should just put a Whole Foods there instead. There's already a Whole Foods a block away, on the north side of Bellaire Blvd. near Stella Link, with a CVS Pharmacy across the street. I guess they could put in yet another bank. Banks are popular in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I pointed out in another thread that uninformed residents ALWAYS complain about traffic when opposing anything. I have to admit though, that complaining about traffic issues when replacing an office building with 45 townhomes may be the all-time greatest traffic complaint. But maybe they are right. Maybe 45 townhomes next to a 4 lane road is too much. Maybe they should just put a Whole Foods there instead. Pretty sure that Bellaire Blvd. has 6 lanes at that spot with protected turn lanes as well. With the Med Center a straight shot away and the QUickline bus service, this property is actually quite appropriate for a true midrise (5 to 10 floors). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 There's already a Whole Foods a block away, on the north side of Bellaire Blvd. near Stella Link, with a CVS Pharmacy across the street. I guess they could put in yet another bank. Banks are popular in Houston. Or a Walmart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Pretty sure that Bellaire Blvd. has 6 lanes at that spot with protected turn lanes as well. With the Med Center a straight shot away and the QUickline bus service, this property is actually quite appropriate for a true midrise (5 to 10 floors). Ha Ha! You're right! It is 6 lanes. And, you are correct that this is a prime location for a midrise office or condo building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etheriemma Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Or a Walmart! A Walmart'N'Go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 There's already a Whole Foods a block away, on the north side of Bellaire Blvd. near Stella Link, with a CVS Pharmacy across the street. I guess they could put in yet another bank. Banks are popular in Houston. His "Whole Foods" comment was a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Whole Foods sells a bunch of overpriced foods that spoils quickly. My sister brought a loaf of bread over to the house at christmas and by the next day it had stuff growing on it. yuk! (and yes she had just bought it). Let's build a bunch more of those places! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 There are 12 townhomes and 16 homes on the north side of the 3700 and 3800 blocks of Gramercy St. that are located in the city of Southside Place. Additionally, any children who would live at the new townhomes would be attending Mark Twain Elementary and Pershing Middle School which are located in the Braes Heights subdivision, city of Houston, which everyone south of Bellaire Blvd. uses. Supposedly, Twain Elementary is already overcrowded. Traffic and safety issues also affect people in the neighborhood, as well as the extra burden to the utilities infrastructure of the entire area. And so, the proposed townhome development does affect people who live on Gramercy St. as well as the rest of the neighborhood to the south of Southside. I never knew that Southside Place included those homes on the north side of Grammercy. I learned something today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Noticed today on way to Jerry built burger(first time but good food and cool interior fwiw) that this property was fenced off and had a swppp sign up as well as the public hearing sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 This place was mostly knocked down when I passed by today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxConcrete Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 This place was mostly knocked down when I passed by today. Here are three photos from today. It looks like the west wing is about 50% demolished. The rest of the building is intact - is it part of this project? This view shows the main building in the background, still fully intact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 IMAG0314 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr IMAG0318 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Noticed a bunch of new rough in plumbing on the site today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Quote......"Residents are worried about increased traffic; overcrowding at the two neighborhood schools Mark Twain Elementary and Pershing Middle School; overtaxing of the existing infrastructure (electric, water, sanitary sewer, gas); safety issues (for the Southside Volunteer Fire Dept. and Southside police); not to mention the aesthetic appearance of 3-1/2 story tall buildings crowded next to the busy street of Bellaire Blvd."End quote....Gosh, name me one project that has opposition anywhere in America where the opposition doesn't trot out those old standbys!Kids, traffic safety, juice, and looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 The wood frames of what I assume are the townhomes are now going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I worked one summer in that West Wing. Even though it's gone, it's not forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The wood frames of what I assume are the townhomes are now going up.Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Didn't get a good pic, but work is well under way. IMAG0137 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr There is one home that appears nearly completed, the framing anyway. The structure in the pic looks much larger than the nearly completed home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 from Aug.31 IMG_1190 by Not.Larry.Dierker, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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