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I think it's the second. People drift towards the services. You would not find a congregation of homeless in Cypress because transportation services are poor, the charities ate far away and the density of people walking by to ask for some change is few and far in between.

Yes those blocks are rather tough, there are prostitutes and teenage runaways in addition to the homeless that frequent that area. But you find that in most big cities. I don't think we have more than the average big city, it's just that ours are concentrated at various stops along the red line. It will be interesting to see if the density picks up along spots on the green or purple lines, if they will find new stomping grounds.

Main has long been popular for the homeless, bit I do admit it does seem worse. Those recently sprung from jail are released at the greyhound station and some just stick around. The charities in that area make it hard to leave. I used to catch a bus at a busstop on Fannin and gray near that McDonald's. Charities would feed the homeless right there under pierce elevated and Fannin and man, it was like feeding pigeons.

Anyway, I am not bothered by them. I usually see them approach and right before they open their mouth I ask them if they can spare five bucks.

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Yeah the homeless problem is a pretty big deal downtown. I drove down there yesterday and even though we are all optimistic about the downtown living incentive (or what ever its technical name is) I can see people having a hard time wanting to move there with all the homeless, and could really hurt retail if no one want to be on the streets.

 

On another note has anyone noticed how the number of homeless has increased dramatically across the street from Memorial Herman, there must be at least 40+ that hang around that statue.    

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i noticed all those homeless hanging around that statue in Hermann Park/by the Zoo/across from Memorial Hermann too. what gives? there aren't any homeless services down there that i know of..?

and i don't know what they're going to do about the new Buffalo Bayou hike/bike trails through downtown when they open (i guess have police patrolling on bikes/golfcarts?), but there is a homeless encampment along the trails down below/to the west of Spaghetti Warehouse.

seriously. this city needs to stop ignoring the homeless. can we not figure out a program to offer some sort of minimum wage city service jobs to them like cleaning up the streets/picking up trash and what not?

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I'm not worried about the ability to convince people to move downtown. .if ypu can get people to spend 1700 to live in a box..the homeless is not going to be a problem.

Now the retail district could be another matter..it a place someone who just bought something expensive might not feel comfortable walking down with say a new bought 700 dollar watch... plus if the purpose is to funnel convention goers and hotel guest down that street it needs to be DT most signature block in terms of apperances as well ..more so than even main

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The homeless is a three tier problem

1)The mental ill

2) The down on their luck

3) The no longer give a bleep

The first one can only legal be detain till they are no longer a threat to themselves or the public. .other words once their meds kick in..the problem being homeless their is no mechanism to ensure they ither re up on their meds or even take them to begin with. .they are the most tragic of the three because it truly not their fault.

The second are just as I stated down on their luck..they are the one who bother me the least. .plus they prefer to Barter ( Wash your car, cut your grass..etc)most times they leave you alone and ask that you do the same.

The last group is my least liked..they have thrown in the towel on life and prefer to lounge around all day using what little money they get to get drunk or high..They rather sit in their own filth than use the free services like the community center showers (which are open to the homeless from 600 to 700)..they sit around waiting for the other free services to open ( church serving breakfast, homeless shelter serving lunch, etc).This group I dispise. They don't care about themselves or their surrounding and trash out whole areas

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Feed-the-homeless.jpg


 


come on HAIF, please let us not resort to arrogance in regards to our homeless population.  for all of you that may not be abreast of the current national pulse...


houston, is now being looked upon as a national model in dealing with our homeless population.  many many accolades, are now being extended to city management in regards to the overall balance, courtesy, respect, and overall professionalism being 


presented to this city's homeless.  therefore, please JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED.  and if this still doesn't work....


love is always the key....


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Yeah, Main/Dallas seems to be pretty bad in terms of number of homeless people congregating, and a few police shooing them away isn't going to solve anything.

Construction on Main Street's improvements started last Friday, in addition to work already started on Dallas St and Hotel Alessandra. So I think we may start to see them relocate to other streets for the moment. It will be interesting to see what happens afterwards, especially if the city can redevelope the 1100 Main/Sakowitz block, their nest.

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I've taken the train for that ride solely to avoid that block. But it seems like people are starting to hang out in the parking lot across from bell station now

I know exactly what you're talking about. I get off at the stop everyday for the last year and the number has slowly continued to build. I think it's because on both sides of the street there is two benches and a public water fountain. It's the perfect place to post up if you have no where else to go. I guess it just took sometime for all of them to realize there was two water fountains there. 

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On another note has anyone noticed how the number of homeless has increased dramatically across the street from Memorial Herman, there must be at least 40+ that hang around that statue.    

 

 

i noticed all those homeless hanging around that statue in Hermann Park/by the Zoo/across from Memorial Hermann too. what gives? there aren't any homeless services down there that i know of..?

 

 

There was, at one point, a church that operated a soup kitchen diagonally across the intersection rom Hermann. At certain times there was a huge crowd.

 

It's not a problem that is easily solved. There are indeed different circumstances that get people in that condition, so long as we can provide people with the basic to survive, no matter their ability to pay, I think we are doing all we can. There is only so much you can do for people that have lost the ability to function as a member of society.

 

Their numbers are definitely way up DT though.

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Only if you experience symptoms of acrophobia. But yeah, word of the day goes to you

 

Oh no no, mollusk picked it, I just want the whose line is it anyways variety of points for using it. 

 

And I don't have acrophobia, but clearly, some of our other viewers do. The skylounge is dangerous, l'appel du vide. :) 

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I'm sorry but what is slick about this buildimg? That theres a curve to the building? Sorry not trying to be rude but we in Houston have set our standards so low.

This building looks like its from the 1970s

How many curved buildings do we get? Not a lot. And yes, our standards are very low. I don't get the 70's vibe, although a lot of the contemporary buildings these days do have resemblance to the modern ones of the 60's & 70's, this one I don't see it.
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I'm sorry but what is slick about this buildimg? That theres a curve to the building? Sorry not trying to be rude but we in Houston have set our standards so low.

This building looks like its from the 1970s

 

When I think of 70s Houston architecture I think of Pennzoil Place, which is not a bad thing. Most of the monumental high rise architecture in Houston was built in the 80s, just as the oil glut was happening.

 

Naturally I'd like it to be taller. I like the orientation of the tower.  If the east side was not flush with the podium, the tower would give more of the appearance of jutting out at an angle. It has a generous plaza area on the Travis side, which is not evident from the original rendering. Also, it appears that street level on Main will have generous retail spaces, but I can't quite tell yet from these photos. Also, as Tiger Eye's photo indicate, it looks like they are putting a rooftop garden on top of the garage, which probably helped with the LEED certification. 

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Feed-the-homeless.jpg

 

come on HAIF, please let us not resort to arrogance in regards to our homeless population.  for all of you that may not be abreast of the current national pulse...

houston, is now being looked upon as a national model in dealing with our homeless population.  many many accolades, are now being extended to city management in regards to the overall balance, courtesy, respect, and overall professionalism being 

presented to this city's homeless.  therefore, please JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED.  and if this still doesn't work....

love is always the key....

 

 

Ignoring the reality is more harmful to the homeless people than trying to be nice about it. The truth being that there are a lot of people who are uncomfortable around homeless people. Even more, they are uncomfortable around homeless people when they are confronted by them. Be it for a bit of pocket change, or whatever.

 

Telling people they shouldn't be afraid of some homeless people (I mean, really, what are the chances that a homeless guy is going to genuinely threaten someone, as opposed to a non-homeless person?) won't change their pre-conceived notions, they just have to experience it a time or two to get the picture.

 

Believe it or not, there are also people out there who are going to be negative towards homeless people as well. They don't want to be around them, they don't want to see them. Rather than us being all coy about it, we should talk about how we can change these peoples perceptions. I think that will do the most good considering Houston has excellent support networks in place already to take care of these people. The key to swaying them I would imagine should also be through love and not judging them. Right?

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Ignoring the reality is more harmful to the homeless people than trying to be nice about it. The truth being that there are a lot of people who are uncomfortable around homeless people. Even more, they are uncomfortable around homeless people when they are confronted by them. Be it for a bit of pocket change, or whatever.

Telling people they shouldn't be afraid of some homeless people (I mean, really, what are the chances that a homeless guy is going to genuinely threaten someone, as opposed to a non-homeless person?) won't change their pre-conceived notions, they just have to experience it a time or two to get the picture.

Believe it or not, there are also people out there who are going to be negative towards homeless people as well. They don't want to be around them, they don't want to see them. Rather than us being all coy about it, we should talk about how we can change these peoples perceptions. I think that will do the most good considering Houston has excellent support networks in place already to take care of these people. The key to swaying them I would imagine should also be through love and not judging them. Right?

This discussion reminded me of this scene from The Simpsons.

https://youtu.be/M9CnqoUB5xM

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So many parking lots, especially on the southeast side. More high rises needed.

 

I'm thinking 1711 and the Camden Conte projects, if they go though, will anchor development in this area. A lot of low- to mid-scale residential developments would be nice to see here. It would be nice to have a part of downtown that has a more relaxed feel to it.

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