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I don't mean to be a downer, but, sadly, I give this long odds. Nothing like the 50/50 the Chronicle is touting. SF is a lock for one of them due to the unspoken rule that if you build a new stadium, you get a super bowl. That leaves Miami vs. Houston for the other. I've read many times the owners *love* Miami (I'd guess at least half of them probably own some sort of residence there). The only way I see Houston getting it is if they truly feel an obligation to McNair for something (committee or labor deal work?), or if they're trying to send a message to Miami about upgrading their stadium.

It would be great to get another one though.

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Actually, the reason we didn't get one sooner is that the small market owners were mad at McNair over his dealings to get more control over revenue that big market teams bring in. Houston is a big market team. So, the small market guys just blocked Houston from another Super Bowl. If they are over that spat, or if they now feel like he's been punished enough, Houston will get it. Miami will simply get the next one. They've had 10 already. Pushing off one year won't hurt them.

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Looks like Houston is serious about this Super Bowl bid. The approval today will give Reliant Stadium the largest video boards on the planet, surpassing the one's in Arlington. The Toyota Center and Reliant Stadium with the largest video boards? AMAZING!!!!

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Funny, when you posted this, I didn't believe you, but in checking the stats, you are correct. Here is the Texans' press release...

http://www.houstonte...12-174a2dd8c526

Construction on the video boards is projected to begin after the current season and be completed by Aug. 1, 2013. Manufactured by Mitsubishi Electric’s Diamond Vision Systems Division, they will have an image area of 52.49 by 277.17 feet, totaling 14,549 square feet of display surface and weighing in at more than 100 tons each.

Cowboys Stadium's boards are 72x160, for 11,520 square feet per board. Interestingly, there appear to be two boards that are larger, one at a Dubai racetrack, and one at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Actually, the one in Dubai is wider, but smaller overall. It is 35x352 feet. Charlotte's is 80x200 feet, so it is less wide, but larger overall.

http://stadiumblog.d...dy-noticed.html

According to this list, it will be the 2nd largest in the world...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_video_screens

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So it will cover the space currently taken up by the scoreboards and ads? I am a little surprised they are willing to sacrafice ad space.

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They won't sacrifice ad space. The ads will be shown on the scoreboard most of the time. Likely only for major replays will the entire video board be used to show the highlight. The rest of the time I'm assuming it will be ads ringing the scoreboard with a smaller "tv area" in the middle. It's how the one at Longhorns stadium works

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I thought about that after I posted that. This is actually an upgrade for signage space. Professional Houston teams do an awesome job with their video boards. I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do with this.

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Since it is a digital board, they can now alternate the ads during the game, greatly increasing ad revenue. They can also put up lots of stats, and, of course, replays.

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I have to say I'm a little surprised. LA is about to build a stadium, so it's curious they haven't been rewarded with a Super Bowl yet.

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I have to say I'm a little surprised. LA is about to build a stadium, so it's curious they haven't been rewarded with a Super Bowl yet.

Well, they'll have to get a team to play in it first...

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Correct. All they have is a nice design and a promise to build a stadium, IF an existing team will move to LA, AND give the developer a 30% ownership stake in the team. Lots of ifs there.

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Looks like Houston is serious about this Super Bowl bid. The approval today will give Reliant Stadium the largest video boards on the planet, surpassing the one's in Arlington. The Toyota Center and Reliant Stadium with the largest video boards? AMAZING!!!!

Great. Spend millions on a scoreboard for a Super Bowl we won't get.

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I bet you can't wait for the world to end at midnight. At least you'll be out of your misery. Oh sorry, I didn't mean to try to make you consider any positives about the end of the world. I know that is a big NO-NO around here. So have it your way and bask in the misery of your upcoming little debutant party in hell.

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New scoreboards are needed anyway but i don't think they would go all out if they didn't know they would be the front runner in landing a Super Bowl. They're competing with Miami and the old Sunlife Stadium.

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I have to say I'm a little surprised. LA is about to build a stadium, so it's curious they haven't been rewarded with a Super Bowl yet.

The stadium has to be finished first with a team playing in it before they get a Super Bowl. LA has stumbled trying to do this for so long.... that's why we have the Texans.

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Looks like Houston is serious about this Super Bowl bid. The approval today will give Reliant Stadium the largest video boards on the planet, surpassing the one's in Arlington. The Toyota Center and Reliant Stadium with the largest video boards? AMAZING!!!!

and the Astros have the 2nd largest in MLB, soon to be 3rd once safeco finishes theirs

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I bet you can't wait for the world to end at midnight. At least you'll be out of your misery. Oh sorry, I didn't mean to try to make you consider any positives about the end of the world. I know that is a big NO-NO around here. So have it your way and bask in the misery of your upcoming little debutant party in hell.

Forget to take your meds?

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Since our last Superbowl, downtown has changed dramatically. By 2017, new hotel, redeveloped HP, Buffalo Bayou project, and so on.... we'll be ready. Does anyone remember what they did to main st? Hope we get it again. This city deserves it and has proven that it can host big events successfully.

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Testing. Testing. Does the ignore button really work? This is only a test.

and this...

Houston only lost out on the last superbowl we were in the running for because the rest of the League was trying to send a message to the owners of teams that made more money and didn't want to share it with the others. Hasn't that issue been resolved?

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http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/article/City-improvements-vital-part-of-Houston-s-Super-4404820.php

Copy paste this into google to get free access. It's a cool article describing the process of bidding for a Super Bowl. I didn't have any idea that Miami was trying to spend $400 million just to get the Super Bowl but it sounds like they're having trouble finding the funds. I definitely think what's going on around discovery green will help us though, and if they waited a year to choose the host who knows what else will be planned for there and other areas around downtown.

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I'm not sure I'd go so far as to say a 2/3 or 66% chance is a shoe in, but it is decent odds.

 

I never took a statistics class, but my understanding is that it's a 50% chance, because rather than going against 2 other towns, we're going to go against one other town that isn't picked for the superbowl bid from the previous year.

 

based on the article, it looks like we've got a strong chance of winning, since Fla isn't spending money to make the stadium better, it will likely be SF beating Fla, then us beating Fla.

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What are the chances they will let either fla or sf lose two years in a row? I could maybe see sf losing it because of incompetence but you'd think they'd learn from their first failure and win out against us.

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Our chances of getting it have improved:

blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/05/renovations-rejected-for-dolphins-stadium-increasing-houstons-chances-for-super-bowl-li/

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What time will we know?

Edit: it's 1pm

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It will be really bad if we lose to Miami, although I wouldn't be surprised. I could see the NFL taking the angle of, we need to get them more cash to fix this historic stadium yada yada since the politicians won't finance it via taxes. Good for Miami though, we payed for all of our stadiums and can't even watch the teams on tv!

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It would be nice to have at least two skyline changing towers downtown by then!

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That's a lot of money to spend for just one weekend, especially considering that the majority of visitors that weekend have a lot of money and would be very unlikely to be taking a train. Don't you think?

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I saw a quote from Campo or another committee member and they said something like, "last time we didn't have an east/west rail line. Are they talking about the ones going out east? Lol

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I saw a quote from Campo or another committee member and they said something like, "last time we didn't have an east/west rail line. Are they talking about the ones going out east? Lol

 

sure, the destination isn't as important as the fact that we have it, at least for the people who were deciding. I can see the way the conversation unfolded:

 

commissioner: last time you just had that one bit of rail, it was great and packed cheek by jowl, but have you guys expanded?

houstonian: of course we have! Now we have lines that go east/west and expanded our north south capability as well!

commissioner: splendid! So people can ride a train from the downtown area to the galleria? I know that was a busy place.

houstonian: we'd rather not get bogged down in the details of it with you, as you have more important things to look at, like this picture of the dog from family guy dressed as a banana!

commissioner: oh yeah! peanut butter jelly time!

 

at least, that's how I imagine it happened.

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That's a lot of money to spend for just one weekend, especially considering that the majority of visitors that weekend have a lot of money and would be very unlikely to be taking a train. Don't you think?

 

I don't think they'll be closing the rail line after the Super Bowl ends. Red Line after last Super Bowl, for example.

Anyway, doesn't matter, a rail line can't be conceived, designed, funded, utilities realigned, and constructed by 2017.

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That's a lot of money to spend for just one weekend, especially considering that the majority of visitors that weekend have a lot of money and would be very unlikely to be taking a train. Don't you think?

 

From what I understand, there will be a 10 day event

While a good portion of the people will come to Houston for the game itself, there will be a number of people that will simply come for the various parties.

 

While a rail to the airport would be grand, it is pointless without a more extensive system heading west.   It seems to me a large share of the hotel rooms in the city are out in that direction, therefore people will be taking other transport options.

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The numbers on the last Super Bowl were estimated at about 150,000 out of town visitors and a total economic impact of $460 million.

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From what I understand, there will be a 10 day event

While a good portion of the people will come to Houston for the game itself, there will be a number of people that will simply come for the various parties.

 

While a rail to the airport would be grand, it is pointless without a more extensive system heading west.   It seems to me a large share of the hotel rooms in the city are out in that direction, therefore people will be taking other transport options.

 

this is the official NFL event.

 

http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/47/events/nfl-experience

 

I went in '04 and I'll go again in '17 

 

I didn't bother getting any autographs, but they've got tons of players there to sign at all times. But they've got a lot of really neat displays, history and memorabilia.

 

I might as well just submit my request for vacation now though, not because I want to be attentive to the events, but because moving around Houston will be impossible after the NFC/AFC championship games through the end of the super bowl.

 

I hope they can turn the 'dome into the worlds largest topiary by that time.

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Informative and exciting article about what they have planned for the week leading up. Are there renderings, a full detailed list of what was proposed etc?

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/sports/05-22-13-houston-super-bowl-to-include-a-rocket-ship-ride-a-space-needle-and-big-name-concerts/

A rocket ship ride

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While a rail to the airport would be grand, it is pointless without a more extensive system heading west. It seems to me a large share of the hotel rooms in the city are out in that direction, therefore people will be taking other transport options.

They can lease a fleet of buses to run to and from the airport, up and running in no time with no capital expenditure. I think you are right about growth of hotels on the west side. During the All Star game weekend traffic on the west side of town was worse than a really bad rush hour. They should run shuttles between the airport and selected destinations on the west side (and elsewhere) that local hotels can connect to with their own shuttles.

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