lockmat Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) This would pretty sweet if built, and it's design is different from the usual Woodlands building. Designed by Pickard Chilton http://www.bizjourna...allery&img_no=1 http://www.bizjourna...-woodlands.html Edited September 7, 2012 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Wow so there are two condo high rise proposals along the waterway.http://impactnews.com/articles/woodlands-development-company-plans-large-scale-town-center-projects10 Waterway was mentioned in this article:http://app.newsletter.bisnow.com/e/es.aspx?s=2636&e=9628&elq=b4a6a7105cb4433da3dc32a86f82d594It says that it is going to be 600k SF I assumed it would be a office building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 oops, you're right. I don't know what made me think it was a condo tower. I guess it looks like it could pass for one. I have a ticket in to editor to have the title changed. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I don't think that's the location of the 600k building. I think that might be a new rendering for the condo tower. The location looks about right for the condo tower. Not sure tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 No the location of the condo tower is across the water on the other side. It will abutt the waterway square parking garage Close to 3 & 4 waterway square place and be behind a proposed hotel.In the following link there is a photo that shows the location as number 11.http://www.thewoodlands-commercial.com/pdf/wwsq_brochure.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 yup. that must be the 600k square foot building. howard hughes sucks. they are going to completely f up the waterway square plan by placing a really tall building right on the waterway. it takes away from the human scale originally planned around waterway square.. they are going for bang for the buck. it dwarfs the brownstones and lofts. i can see they are giddy to maximize profits at the cost of good planning. just stick the most square footage where the demand is greatest regardless of the scale. ridiculous. booooooo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 It is interesting that they decided to build one 600k SF building when they still have other parcels of land to still build on. I wonder why they decided to build such a large building when they could build several smaller sized buildings on their other parcels. Maybe they have a company in mind that is looking for that amount of SF. I also find it interesting that they decided to break ground on their Hughes Landing development before building out their entire Waterway Square development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 that's just it fortune........there were three shorter buildings planned for the "super block" on the south side of waterway square...that opened up to and complimented waterway square on the north and now this monstrosity. it wouldn't bother me so much if it was offset from the waterway, like 24 waterway in front of the fountain. 24 waterway is 14 stories and set back. the hotel will be similar to 24 waterway in height (at least it was, who knows now).i can't tell from the rendering, but retail on the first floor and around the second fountain would soften it at the pedestrian level. at least that may still happen.it just rubs me wrong....like "hughes landing" at lake woodlands. they are abandoning even the "woodlands way" of naming things. hughes landing is a pr name for the howard hughes corporation. just stupid.don't get me wrong...i love a new tall structure just for the childlike satisfaction it brings; but why mess with a good thing? 10 waterway is TOO TALL for that location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Yea these articles mention the three shorter buildings and the extension of Waterway Square south, there is even a rendering of the buildings. They are dated from February of this year so hopefully they will still be built. http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/woodlands/news/waterway-square-extension-targeted-for/article_f8e287bd-9fde-56d4-b37a-59fdbc5aebd9.html?mode=storyhttp://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2012/02/the-woodlands-considers-developing.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 if you look at the map, the three shorter building are on timberloch. the big building, 10 waterway, looks like a mixed use with parking. residential brownstones or townhomes lining the waterway square "extension" from the waterway to timberloch and more residential on the south side of timberloch behind the three shorter buildings. oh well, i wonder if they will have pre-construction discounts on the residential....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Is the scaling off? That doesn't look like a 600k foot building to me---especially when compared to the SMALLER Anadarko towers. Anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 24 waterway is 308,000 square feet including the retail, 14 stories on the right of the picture above. 10 waterway avenue is at least 20 stories tall with a larger floor plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted September 12, 2012 Author Share Posted September 12, 2012 If they are 25k floor plates, that's 4 floors for every 100k of sqft. 6x4 is 24 floors. I think that's about what this tower is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 the existing anadarko tower is 800,000 square feet with what appears to be a narrower floor plate; hence the taller structure. also, consider that 10 waterway avenue may have retail facing the waterway, the extended waterway square south and facing waterway avenue......around the perimeter of the parking garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 that's just it fortune........there were three shorter buildings planned for the "super block" on the south side of waterway square...that opened up to and complimented waterway square on the north and now this monstrosity. it wouldn't bother me so much if it was offset from the waterway, like 24 waterway in front of the fountain. 24 waterway is 14 stories and set back. the hotel will be similar to 24 waterway in height (at least it was, who knows now).i can't tell from the rendering, but retail on the first floor and around the second fountain would soften it at the pedestrian level. at least that may still happen.it just rubs me wrong....like "hughes landing" at lake woodlands. they are abandoning even the "woodlands way" of naming things. hughes landing is a pr name for the howard hughes corporation. just stupid.don't get me wrong...i love a new tall structure just for the childlike satisfaction it brings; but why mess with a good thing? 10 waterway is TOO TALL for that location.well then you won't like the 45+ story tower they've "proposed" on super block east... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 well then you won't like the 45+ story tower they've "proposed" on super block east...Wow they have proposed a 45 story tower ? Are there any renderings or details about this proposal ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 well then you won't like the 45+ story tower they've "proposed" on super block east...you're kidding? right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boounce Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Yes. Please share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 you're kidding? right?the amount of floors is a very rough estimation compared to the surrounding buildings... how likely is it? i have no clue... but that's what howard hughes corp has proposed in that location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 which location? what are you calling "super block east"? are you referring to a published proposal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 http://www.thewoodlands-commercial.com/pdf/wwsq_brochure.pdf found superblock east. it appears there are two towers with distinct features outlined. i'm not sure where the estimate for a floor count is coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 http://www.thewoodla...sq_brochure.pdf found superblock east. it appears there are two towers with distinct features outlined. i'm not sure where the estimate for a floor count is coming from. well obviously not from that Super block east abutting I-45... it looked nearly twice the height of anadarko's new tower. like i said, it could very well be a pie-in-the-sky "proposal" on HHC's part, but that's what they have depicted on the material i've seen. i have zero knowledge of it beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 there is a new rendering floating around for 10 waterway. Â apparently, it's been in houston business journal. Â i haven't come across a digital copy. Â i saw it at the economic outlook conference last month. Â has anyone seen this new rendering or have a copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 I get the hbj and I have not seen it but I must admit I've been lax in my reading of it lately. The other day when you were asking for the rendering in the digital copy it wasn't in the hard, but I'll double check. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 I just checked the last four editions and did not see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 HHC was reworking the design of 10 waterway to make it more cost-effective, ie cheaper. don't recall seeing a new rendering but i'm assuming that's what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Â thanks for sharing lockmat! Â it looks a little too much like the bbva building in the galleria. Â add to that swtsig's comment, and i'm not too excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Stonian Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 (edited) Actually this one looks more like Energy Center III that broke ground in the Energy Corridor this January rather than the new BBVA building near the Galleria.  Almost an exact copy (with slight modifications) so probably the same architect. http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2013/01/keep-an-eye-on-energy-center-three.html?s=image_gallery Edited April 6, 2013 by HOUSTONIAN (N-ATL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Is there an accompanying article with the rendering ? If so what did it say ? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 No it was just an advertisement in the hbj. It is 20 stories and it gives other details about the building. Nothing interesting. I took the attached screen shot after I gave bachanon the other. My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carterb Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Here's the animation, from what I was told the client based their decision to move ahead on the project based almost entirely on this video. https://vimeo.com/53367296 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 looks a lot like EC3... nice video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 it looks like the only possible retail space is at the waterway level, or at street level above facing the waterway. Â the parking garage doesn't appear to have any retail space on woodloch forest or waterway avenue, like the parking garages do at 24 waterway, 1501 lake robbins, the marriott garage. is it possible that the land is too valuable or the need for office space too urgent to save space for retail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 This is interesting, I'm guessing the other blue towers are being planned as well? http://har3.commgate.com/photos/pdf/fs/219456_1.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Whoa, nice!! If those are to scale they are huge and traffic is going to absolutely horrible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Wow mama, that tall blue one though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strickn Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Those massing models you like were taken from Pickard Chilton's master plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) Wow, if that scaling is correct, that tall blue building is pushing 40 stories or more. Was this perhaps an old 'Shell' proposal? On a side note, it appears that there is a new anchor department store south of Dillards. It seems like I remember this being proposed years ago. Is that still in the works? Edited September 11, 2013 by wxman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 that was the 45+ story tower i referred to back in sept. of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 that was the 45+ story tower i referred to back in sept. of last year. What were the details on that...or did you have any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 didn't have any... there is one possible user i am aware of who is supposedly kicking tires on a very large office in the woodlands and 45 stories would match the sq ft i've heard tossed around but beyond a couple sources echoing what i've heard i have no other info. they've had that large placeholder there since way before i heard this rumor though so i won't jump to connect to the two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 This was part of the design competition for this building http://www.bokapowell.com/#/design-competitions/1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 that one looks so much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 (edited) Yeah I prefer Boka Powell's design for the building. Most of Kirksey's work is really boring to me. Edited November 16, 2013 by Urbannizer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Wow! That would be one of the most architecturally inspiring buildings in all of Houston if built like that. Totes awesome.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 def a much more interesting design but in all honesty one that is really too bold for the woodlands imo. i'd love to see a design like that go up in uptown, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted February 15, 2014 Author Share Posted February 15, 2014 This was on the latest agenda, looks like it should break ground soon  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 There's a big splashy ad in today's HBJ for this property. Now 17 stories and 430,000 sf. The incredible shrinking office building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 is it the same design only shorter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 They found a way to make the building even more bland. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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