Twinsanity02 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr.Clean19 said: I think this is the 3rd time in this string where it was brought up. The bayous banks are too steep on the east side to allow gators to climb up. Thanks for the information but I was thinking of the Gondolas. Though come to think about it, people kayak the bayou and haven't heard of anyone getting chomped. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUTEX Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 There's a gondola line in Portland that connects the waterfront to their medical campus up on a hilltop overlooking the city. Beats installing a funicular. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 All this talk of gondolas sounds weird to me - do they ever make them on flat land? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMU1213 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, cspwal said: All this talk of gondolas sounds weird to me - do they ever make them on flat land? The State Fair of Texas has one...? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Rodeo has them every year 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Rodeo has them every year I've even ridden in it 🤦♂️ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 4/30/2019 at 10:10 AM, innerloop said: They tried it in Rio de Janeiro, but some people say that was just a vanity project for the Olympics. They built a 2.2 mile line and they say it cost $70M. The trip took 10 minutes, I couldn't quickly find any information on capacity/hour. There were two, but the more important one links the Complexo de Alemão favela to a station on the suburban train line, a total of 6 stations over 3.5 km. Theoretical max capacity per hour was 3000 passengers (152 gondolas, ~30 minute round trip, 10 pax per gondola). For obvious reasons, it's very difficult to achieve this capacity. In practice the system had about 10,000 passengers per day (article in Portuguese from 2012). Fares were heavily subsidized by the state government. Residents of the favela (a majority of users) could ride twice per day for free, while everyone else paid R$1 (about US$0.30) each way. To break even on operating costs at 10,000 riders per day, the fare would have needed to be about 7-8x higher, and paid by all passengers. (Other public transportation modes in Rio generally operate without subsidy.) Given the precarious financial situation of the state government after the Olympics, the operating subsidy was cut off and operation suspended in late 2016. The construction cost per mile is definitely at the low end as compared to light rail, average speeds are only a little slower, and grade separation is built in. It helps if you have the right topology, and you still have to work out the rights of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I had waaay too much time on my hands to think about this, but here is my suggestion for 2 Gondola routes: https://imgur.com/a/ArazkT7 Keep in mind I have ZERO technical background on how these work other than ski trips and the rodeo. The goal here was to connect East River to the Light Rail systems at BBVA and UHD. I tried to pick land that is currently open and would be easily developed on after the I-45 Re-Route. Both routes would give amazing views of the Bayou and Downtown. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bategeler Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 It's not exactly the same, and it primarily goes over the East River, but NYC has the Roosevelt Island Tramway. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luminare Posted May 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2019 ...we have gone so far off course... 5 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmitch94 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Yeah is there any mention about an actual gonadal being built or just a bunch of day dreaming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Luminare said: ...we have gone so far off course... Im just trying to define a course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 @Luminare you missed a good opportunity to say, "we have gone so far off the rails..." 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 35 minutes ago, Mr.Clean19 said: @Luminare you missed a good opportunity to say, "we have gone so far off the rails..." In a normal thread where we talk about rail...yes, but we are on water, so no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 ... gondolas are on neither rails nor water... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Texasota said: ... gondolas are on neither rails nor water... so i guess you could say these comments are... out of line 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Texasota said: ... gondolas are on neither rails nor water... The topic is called "East River"... not "East Gondolas" EDIT: I can't believe I actually have to mention why the joke worked in the first place....sigh Edited May 3, 2019 by Luminare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenOlenska Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 *peaks head in* I like the gondola talk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 ...could we rename the thread "East Gondolas"? It has a better ring to it, and they already decided to rename Buffalo Bayou to a river... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Gondola is cheaper and probably faster than light rail considering the logistics of going around the Bayou from the East River sight. Metro should love this. It connects more people to their main light rail lines. I could imagine living at the East River and working in Downtown, taking your bike to the gondola, riding that to UHD, and then biking to work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJilliams Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 This talk of gondolas is nice and all, but where in the plan does it specifically state that gondolas (or light rail for that matter) are going to be incorporated into the project? I mean, it's a fair thing to assume some form of public transit will connect East River to the rest of town but are there any tangible plans on what may actually happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 To my knowledge the only plan out there is the East End District's plan to run a streetcar on Clinton, but that seems to be more of a "this would be cool" kind of thing than a "we are currently designing and securing funding for" kind of thing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 16 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Im just trying to define a course I'm still somewhat amused that @jmitch94's phone autocorrected "gondola" to "gonadal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) @ekdrm2d1 or @hindesky .....I think a photo update of the site is in order. All hands on deck to re-steer this vessel! Edited May 3, 2019 by Luminare 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Luminare said: @ekdrm2d1 or @hindesky .....I think a photo update of the site is in order. All hands on deck to re-steer this vessel! If the weather is nice tomorrow morning I'll try to get an aerial between photoshoots 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Here are my shots. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted May 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2019 And here are my shots, we must have just missed each other ekdrm2d1. Lots of cleared land on the western portion. Probably over 200 trees planted on the land next to Clinton Dr. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 3:43 PM, H-Town Man said: The biggest problem in early Houston was mosquito-borne malaria, which suggests residents wanted to be as far from water as possible and would not have developed like Amsterdam. We lost the state capital over this. Not only malaria, but yellow fever as well, which killed far more folks than malaria, and was harder to treat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brijonmang Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Great shots guys! @ekdrm2d1 @hindesky Unfortunately I had no time to take flight but looks like there's still some more time to go before it starts getting too interesting. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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