Montrose1100 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 I like how they slipped that CityCentre photo in there. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 It's bizarre to me that they aren't building more restaurants on the water. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 I don't like the design either and feel it totally turns away from the water versus opening up towards it. They should have built a corniche style road or plaza and oriented all the buildings towards the water which would have looked more natural. They tout so much things on urbanism and then build these bland boxes full of massive garages that look no different than Hardy Yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 @monarch Can you provide a link to the article please?  50 minutes ago, Triton said: It's bizarre to me that they aren't building more restaurants on the water.  Maybe this will occur in future phases. More people will be flocking to the area to live, work, visit by then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 Quite the scale back for phase I  No Museum and from what I'm seeing no theater.  2020 did no favors to this development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Urbannizer said: @monarch Can you provide a link to the article please?   Maybe this will occur in future phases. More people will be flocking to the area to live, work, visit by then.  ^^^ oooops! meant to add the attribute with the initial posting. here you go... https://www.papercitymag.com/real-estate/east-river-houston-development-midway-mega-project-waterfront-restaurants/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/18/2020 at 2:44 PM, I'm Not a Robot said: Quite the scale back for phase I  No Museum and from what I'm seeing no theater.  2020 did no favors to this development. Oh well. At this moment we just need it to kick off. Those things will eventually happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Is the new Maritime Museum now cancelled for good or will it emerge again in the future? I feel like that would be an interesting anchor for regional tourism, like people from Conroe or Katy would have an occasion to come down to this area and then they would eat out and pay for parking and whatever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljchou Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/19/2020 at 5:30 PM, zaphod said: Is the new Maritime Museum now cancelled for good or will it emerge again in the future? I feel like that would be an interesting anchor for regional tourism, like people from Conroe or Katy would have an occasion to come down to this area and then they would eat out and pay for parking and whatever. New articles say it has moved from P1 to P2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Urbannizer Posted January 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 https://issuu.com/midway2/docs/210126_junior_achievement_rfp_response/6?ff Phase I: - Road & Infrastructure Construction begins Summer 2021. 3Q 2022 completion. - The Laura multifamily (360 units) begins Summer 2021. Two year build.  - Office and retail begins Summer 2021, completion Q4 2022. Follow-on phase of retail and office for phase I set for completion by second half of 2023. 20 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Hot Dang! Here we go.  A curious little thing is taking place close to the center of the site, near Bayou Street. Two 20ft containers were placed side-by-side and welded together to form a 20ft x 16ft room. Large doors on the 20ft sides open-up completely so both sides can be completely open. The room is insulated, paneled, and climate controlled. Inside is a stylish little set-up, with table, chairs, couch, coffee table, etc... Conference lounge. It is not a construction trailer and there are not any Port-a-lets. I think that it must be place for Midway to bring prospective clients. The whole little set-up, is just curious and quite elaborate.  It's just interesting.  7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Wow, Urb. Lot's of meaty nuggets in this: https://issuu.com/midway2/docs/210126_junior_achievement_rfp_response/6?ff Aside from the Junior Achievement pitch, there is a list of prospective retail tenants and restaurants including Common Bond, Urban Eats, Southerleigh (From San Antonio), a Creek Group outlet, etc...  a Par-3 Golf course & Driving Range and Ice House on the eastern end of the property... Awesome! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljchou Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) On 1/27/2021 at 11:14 AM, Naviguessor said: Wow, Urb. Lot's of meaty nuggets in this: https://issuu.com/midway2/docs/210126_junior_achievement_rfp_response/6?ff Aside from the Junior Achievement pitch, there is a list of prospective retail tenants and restaurants including Common Bond, Urban Eats, Southerleigh (From San Antonio), a Creek Group outlet, etc...  a Par-3 Golf course & Driving Range and Ice House on the eastern end of the property... Awesome! I also see Yoga, Orange Theory, Juiceland, Egg Haus, Tenfold Coffee, Local Foods, Fourth and Nomad, Light Years Wine(!!!) No grocery store, though. Could've sworn that was in P1 proposal/agreement with the fifth ward group. Edited January 29, 2021 by ljchou 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBTX Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, ljchou said: No grocery store, though. Could've sworn that was in P1 proposal/agreement with the fifth ward group. Yeah, looks like a specialty shop only: "4,000 SF cultural grocer/market" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 46 minutes ago, ljchou said: No grocery store, though. Could've sworn that was in P1 proposal/agreement with the fifth ward group. The large Commercial Reserve at the corner of Clinton & Jensen would be the obvious location of a grocery store/apartment stack.  The lack of any other details for this plot is conspicuous. My feeling is that there just are not enough local residents to support a major grocer just yet. One The Laura, The Mill, another possible Marquette building,  others projects on the other side of Jensen, not to mention the ongoing townhouse farms north of Clinton and south of the bayou are all built and occupied, then we might see a grocery store here. Might be about 4 to 5 years, however.  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) On 1/29/2021 at 10:36 AM, Naviguessor said: The large Commercial Reserve at the corner of Clinton & Jensen would be the obvious location of a grocery store/apartment stack.  The lack of any other details for this plot is conspicuous. My feeling is that there just are not enough local residents to support a major grocer just yet. One The Laura, The Mill, another possible Marquette building,  others projects on the other side of Jensen, not to mention the ongoing townhouse farms north of Clinton and south of the bayou are all built and occupied, then we might see a grocery store here. Might be about 4 to 5 years, however.  I have to disagree with the idea that 2nd Ward doesn't have enough residents to support a large grocery store. Most of the people in that neighborhood drive all the way down to Cesar Chavez Blvd where there are 2 grocery stores. I hated having to do that when I lived there. If one had been closer I def would have used it. Edited February 9, 2021 by j_cuevas713 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 @j-cuevas713  No doubt a grocery store here, anywhere near here or in the Second Ward, would be well used by several underserved communities. Classic food desert situation.  And, I do trust that Midway is doing all they can to land a major grocery store at East River. If they were to, the rest of the retail space would lease itself.  But, as they have indicated in the past, at our neighborhood meetings (East Bayou District), the population and demographic numbers weren't there yet. However, that was a couple years ago.  3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Triton Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 8:55 AM, Urbannizer said: https://issuu.com/midway2/docs/210126_junior_achievement_rfp_response/6?ff Phase I: - Road & Infrastructure Construction begins Summer 2021. 3Q 2022 completion. - The Laura multifamily (360 units) begins Summer 2021. Two year build.  - Office and retail begins Summer 2021, completion Q4 2022. Follow-on phase of retail and office for phase I set for completion by second half of 2023. Damn the link is gone. Anyone take any screenshots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ljchou Posted February 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) Text: "White-boxed spaces are designed to lower the barrier to entry for these local makers. The cost and complexity of managing a full-scale build-out if often why young brands avoid brick and mortar expansion. The names on the merchandising plan are purely representation of categories and uses. There are multiple brands that could successfully serve our coffee, juice, or yoga needs but the key is the placement of each within the project. Our immediate focus is on the larger users in office and retail building along Buffalo Bayou, as they will be early adapters and set the tone for the project considering the buildings adjacent to both the Central Plaza and Bayou connections. Current Tenant Mix: 2k SF restaurant by Fifth Ward resident and Multi-nominee of the James Beard Award 4k SF cultural grocer/market 2k SF East End Barbershop 2.5k SF market of locally sources products from Fifth Ward retailers 10k SF Architectural Firm 20k SF multi-strategy holding company 5k SF ral estate development company 15k SF chain rooftop event space and cocktail lounge 3k SF bank Preliminary negotiations are underway with tenants and build-to-suit opportunities. Current On-Site Activations: Moonstruck Drive-In Theater at East River specialized in first-run films and classics playing every Fri-Sun. In January on 2021, the drive-in will be a satellite location for the Sundance Film Festival. Additionally, the drive-in acts as the venue for monthly private events for non-profits, corporate and community functions. East River Gold, a planned par-3 golf course with driving range and ice-house restaurant concept will be the eastern end of the property. Construction to begin 2021. Plans are underway to bring a black-owned and operated urban farm to East River, offering access to fresh produce and community programming. Edited February 1, 2021 by ljchou 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Midway noting preliminary negotiations being underway for build-to-suit opportunities is interesting, even if only preliminary. This development takes off quickly, if a company decides to relocate its headquarters here... Preferably a company from outside Houston and most preferable is 'companies' with interests in space exploration, EVs, clean/battery tech 😎 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Par 3 Golf Course / Ice House and others concepts would be good. @CREguy13, I would think they are adding a Renewable Energy company for sure due to the Opportunity Zone inclusion in the recent Grand Energy Storage Challenge by the DOE. Lots of ways they can flex their muscles here. Hopefully the city and state can support them in their plans to grow. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Basically everything Rice Village and some of Highland Village is what we need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 10:42 AM, Mr.Clean19 said: Par 3 Golf Course / Ice House and others concepts would be good. @CREguy13, I would think they are adding a Renewable Energy company for sure due to the Opportunity Zone inclusion in the recent Grand Energy Storage Challenge by the DOE. Lots of ways they can flex their muscles here. Hopefully the city and state can support them in their plans to grow. Agreed on targeting a larger Renewable Energy company and wasn't aware of the Opportunity Zone inclusion. I also have to think Midway is working to lure back KBR. It adds to the history of the site, they are currently in a desolate part of downtown, and the company has made big changes in recent years so a move like this adds to the company's transformation.  Going back to the old Brown & Root 'roots' makes a ton of sense in my opinion. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Are there any plans for a water taxi to downtown? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 77011transplant Posted February 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2021 According to the East Sector Master Plan, yes, they are planning on having a circulating water taxi from Allen’s Landing to the Port of Houston Turning Basin. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Gondolas.... one can dream 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nate99 Posted February 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Gondolas.... one can dream Let's go for a little more regional flair and have some of these blasting up the bayou at all hours.... 7 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Nate99 said: Let's go for a little more regional flair and have some of these blasting up the bayou at all hours.... You have just increased the commute fun factor by 1,000%! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastEndHeritage Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 hours ago, phillip_white said: You have just increased the commute fun factor by 1,000%! Â 3 hours ago, Nate99 said: Let's go for a little more regional flair and have some of these blasting up the bayou at all hours.... I agree with your sentiment, but those things are obnoxiously loud. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apendido Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 No doubt. My house backs up to Buffalo Bayou, and I live near one of the HCFCD's boat ramps. You can hear their airboats from almost a mile away. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) On 2/11/2021 at 12:09 PM, EastEndHeritage said:  I agree with your sentiment, but those things are obnoxiously loud.  A "feature not a bug" if you market it right!.  There were a couple of them running the bayou near downtown a while back. Sounded like hell from inside the buildings. Edited February 12, 2021 by Nate99 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smacgregor Posted February 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2021 They should just go full high-tech. Get Dyson to design a bladeless airboat. 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Naviguessor Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 Midway has updated their East River Retail Brochure. https://eastriverhtx.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/210223-East-River-Retail-Brochure.pdf It refines the retail spaces which are offered, with a couple slight redesigns of the buildings as well as splits Phase 1 into sub phases A and B.  See page 10 of the brochure.  10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUCAJUN Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Naviguessor said: Midway has updated their East River Retail Brochure. https://eastriverhtx.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/210223-East-River-Retail-Brochure.pdf It refines the retail spaces which are offered, with a couple slight redesigns of the buildings as well as splits Phase 1 into sub phases A and B.  See page 10 of the brochure.  When is the start date on this project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Last we heard was 3Q this year, and it sounds like most (phase 1A) of phase 1, will be built all roughly at the same time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUCAJUN Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) Does anyone really understand what this development will become? This will be THE area. Just when I thought I found and area I want to live, here comes East River. Well back to the drawing board for me. Edited March 6, 2021 by HOUCAJUN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutchcity94 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, HOUCAJUN said: Does anyone really understand what this development will become? This will be THE area. Just when I thought I found and area I want to live, here comes East River. Well back to the drawing board for me. How? It’s still cut off from the West Loop. Which is THE area, currently. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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strickn Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) It is surprisingly hard to get an urban atmosphere without financing it the way urban atmospheres were actually financed.  These building blocks are never going to add up to that feel.   Midway cannot fake one management/decisionmaking process as another, and a unique neighborhood atmosphere involves thousands of different owners' choices, not a couple of design firms decorating for one owner. Houston Heights was promoted by a central player with an 1890s financing stack, yes, and so were denser parts of many cities all over the country that now have lofts and offices and workshops -- but the pieces were small enough that many could add to them and modify them personally over time.  Look at these plans and ask yourself where that would ever happen here. Edited March 10, 2021 by strickn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Response Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Still, it is better than a strip mall, CVS, Exxon station or garden style apts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strickn Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 In urban evolution those are less of a cul-de-sac than this is. Â They will be torn down and replaced piecemeal. Â After its "phases" are finished East River will be finished and difficult to upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I know I kind of stated it earlier in this thread but my main issue that remains with this development is that it currently looks like any other mixed-use development I've seen in other cities.  Sure, that sounds great but it's name is East River and it's placing literally zero emphasis on the water. It's placing all of it on two streets that run down the center of it. It needs to shift the focus more towards Buffalo Bayou. All I see is a single sidewalk going down the water... where's the patios, where's the docks, where's the steps that take you all the way down to the water... where's anything indicating this is a RIVER development. It should, at the very least, have some of these characteristics:   Edit: I can already hear some people saying that at least East River is providing some natural landscaping, some trees and what not along the river. Again, that's great. I'm not saying the river needs to be lined with wood for patios and concrete. Here's what I'm saying. Here, look at these 2 pictures for East River ^ In this photo above, nothing is pointing towards the water. It's just a sidewalk. All the restaurant and bar activity is on the street in this next photo:  Tell me I'm not the only one seeing a huge missed opportunity here for East RIVER. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Response Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, strickn said: In urban evolution those are less of a cul-de-sac than this is. Â They will be torn down and replaced piecemeal. Â After its "phases" are finished East River will be finished and difficult to upgrade. Good. Because it looks terrific. There are Exxon stations in Houston that have been in existence since the 70's. How many years has the East River property had weeds growing all over it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Also, the fact that this is being developed with a basically conventional street grid is incredibly important and make the whole neighborhood a lot more adaptable in the long term.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljchou Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 I feel like we don't have much room to complain since this is an abandoned field that's being developed. There's no "small scale", iterative development options. It was either this or more townhomes. I'll take the former any day. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyDriveKid Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Given this design, I'm most happy that they didn't run a street down the riverfront (bayoufront?). Even if the current plan is only an enlarged sidewalk, it's all *pedestrian* at this point. So hopefully as this development matures and is a success, they can grow the pedestrian infrastructure, build out plazas along the water, and add a few smaller commercial structures with patios. All those things.  Basically, I'm glad they haven't closed the door on that yet, even if the current focus seems to be more traditional streetscapes that remind more of the River Oaks District than something like the DC Waterfront development. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Triton said: I know I kind of stated it earlier in this thread but my main issue that remains with this development is that it currently looks like any other mixed-use development I've seen in other cities.  Sure, that sounds great but it's name is East River and it's placing literally zero emphasis on the water. It's placing all of it on two streets that run down the center of it. It needs to shift the focus more towards Buffalo Bayou. All I see is a single sidewalk going down the water... where's the patios, where's the docks, where's the steps that take you all the way down to the water... where's anything indicating this is a RIVER development. It should, at the very least, have some of these characteristics:    Edit: I can already hear some people saying that at least East River is providing some natural landscaping, some trees and what not along the river. Again, that's great. I'm not saying the river needs to be lined with wood for patios and concrete. Here's what I'm saying. Here, look at these 2 pictures for East River  ^ In this photo above, nothing is pointing towards the water. It's just a sidewalk. All the restaurant and bar activity is on the street in this next photo: Tell me I'm not the only one seeing a huge missed opportunity here for East RIVER.  Would something like this be better? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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