j_cuevas713 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Urbannizer said: I'm pretty sure there's no article out mentioning a 2019 groundbreaking, nothing official at least. Yeah I don't remember anything like that either but at the pace they are going I just assumed that this would start sooner than later. I get that all the basic infrastructure needs to be set first though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said: Yeah I don't remember anything like that either but at the pace they are going I just assumed that this would start sooner than later. I get that all the basic infrastructure needs to be set first though. They are basically building a whole new city in a area that used to have terrible infrastructure. Its going to take time. I get it though. I want this to start as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 They seem to still be hosting new potential clients for the area too. Their building is lit up with "Khalid" this week. Probably for the upcoming concert: https://www.toyotacenter.com/events/detail/khalid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 3:53 PM, thedistrict84 said: Huh. I thought we were expecting an official groundbreaking this year? And a 20 year build-out for all phases is also longer than initially suggested. I understand that projects of this scale are hard to fully predict, but the fact that these dates and numbers are changing this early is a tad bit concerning. A 20 year build-out seems reasonable if you compare East River to City Center. They’re still expanding City Center, and it has been operational for many years. I’m guessing East River will be similar. It will exist and be functioning well before the 20 year time frame. It will just continue to grow in scale year-by-year. From a business standpoint it makes sense. Grow slowly, invest slowly, and start generating revenue sooner. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 They seem to know how to grow a development, so I'll give them leeway. City centre seems to have have developed in an organic way and has become a very popular and successful west side mixed use project. Let it grow in a more natural way instead of building a Disney type theme city all at once. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Subdivision plats: SubdivisionPlatPDF_BG3559.pdf SubdivisionPlatPDF_BG3560.pdf 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 What does this mean when this is released? Construction about to start? Just more plans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: What does this mean when this is released? Construction about to start? Just more plans? In order for them to do what they are proposing they have to re-plat the land. If you look to the right of what they are initially replatting you will see what older plats looked like. An application doesn't necessarily mean that something is happening, but many times it does mean something is happening or is going to happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hindesky Posted July 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2019 I see a sewer catch basin rising above the ground so I assume the concrete/pavement will go about a 1-2 feet higher. Saw a hill with surveyor stakes closer to the bayou. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 They have a TON of dirt out there now. Looks like site prep and foundation work may start soon. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Clean19 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I would think that the apartments on the North West side would be partially workforce housing based on the density and look of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMU1213 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I doubt they are doing any workforce housing in the project but I could be wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) On 8/6/2019 at 4:15 AM, CrockpotandGravel said: and western portions.... Looks like a shorter version of Stuyvesant Town. Might be taking this East River thing a little far. Edited August 8, 2019 by H-Town Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 They will definitely do some workforce housing to get a tax credit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bategeler Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Honestly I'm seeing a lot of duplicated architecture, seems to me like they are mostly placeholders to fill in the surrounding context. I would guess these parcels haven't been thoroughly developed/ designed yet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 13 hours ago, H-Town Man said: Looks like a shorter version of Stuyvesant Town. Might be taking this East River thing a little far. Stuyvesant Town is towers-in-a-park, single-use residential, whereas this site plan has more street-level mixed-use urbanism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Angostura said: Stuyvesant Town is towers-in-a-park, single-use residential, whereas this site plan has more street-level mixed-use urbanism. I was referring to the particular buildings in the photo that I quoted, which are midrises-in-a-park, single-use residential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbro Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 21 hours ago, H-Town Man said: Looks like a shorter version of Stuyvesant Town. Might be taking this East River thing a little far. Ughh. the projects. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMU1213 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 22 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: They will definitely do some workforce housing to get a tax credit. Why do you think that? Has Midway ever done workforce housing? Market rate units tend to underwrite better regardless of a tax credit. And if they are going to try to push the retail rents, they are going to want as high of an average income as possible in their multifamily projects to show any potential retail tenants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Its not a matter of common sense... Its a matter of political environment. This is a multi-billion dollar development in 5th Ward... That is going to require some amount of political capital to pull off and the only way you will do that is with some % of work force housing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbro Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, Mr.Clean19 said: Its not a matter of common sense... Its a matter of political environment. This is a multi-billion dollar development in 5th Ward... That is going to require some amount of political capital to pull off and the only way you will do that is with some % of work force housing. Yes, as this location is considered an opportunity zone by the govt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I really think they need to make Hirsch/Waco an underpass at the railroad. I know Gregg & Jensen are a work around. The trains have to slow down significantly for that right turn when the tracks turn North. Unless the city redoes Jensen and Gregg, Waco is the only road leading to this from I-10 & the east end that’s not suspension damaging. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Naviguessor Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Urb...where'd you find that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbro Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Houston has so many pockets of entertainment with more coming. Now if they can get some mixed used development near NRG...sorry about going off topic. 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Talk to the Rodeo about doing something with that endless sea of surface parking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 That's a really good rendering 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon55 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 The thing that intrigues me is the potential it could open down the line... what if one day we had boat that's ran from DT to this project.. and back 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 I wonder if a ferry between downtown and Galveston would work... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric.kelly Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 This isn’t East River information but it is good for the area and close. Has anyone heard about this yet? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Eric.kelly said: This isn’t East River information but it is good for the area and close. Has anyone heard about this yet? Please see: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted August 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2019 https://realtynewsreport.com/2019/08/29/massive-east-river-development-8-9-million-sf-of-office-plus-residential-is-set-for-a-year-end-groundbreaking/ At a panel discussion Wednesday, Midway CEO Jonathan Brinsden said East River is set to break ground by year-end. By the numbers, East River will be ensconced on more than 150 acres, with more than a mile of waterfront on Buffalo Bayou and plans for 8.9 million SF of office space, 1,400 multi-family units, 390 hotel rooms, and 475 single-family residences. Brinsden provided a fresh update of the project Wednesday at an Greater Houston Partnership event at the historic DeLuxe Theater on Lyons Avenue. East River will be the site of the new Houston Maritime Museum, still in fundraising mode, and will face Buffalo Bayou near East River’s entrance. “It’s only fitting that the Houston Maritime Museum be right on the bayou,” says Brinsden. The north side of the East River project fronts Clinton Drive, once the home of Brown & Root, founded in 1919 and celebrated its 100thanniversary this year. The engineering and construction firm evolved from its blue-collar roots, building naval bases and Mansfield Dam off the Colorado River, with more than two million tons of concrete in 1936. After building much of the Johnson Space Center and NASA as well as many other government facilities, they merged with M.W. Kellogg in 1998, forming KBR. Midway’s team is working closely with the Buffalo Bayou Partnership, the City of Houston and neighborhood partners like Kathy Flanagan-Payton, President and CEO of the Fifth Ward Community Redevelopment Corporation and Ann Taylor, Midway’s Senior Vice President of Marketing and Communications, serves on the Fifth Ward CRC’s board. “It will take a massive infrastructure project to deliver an environment that is a truly first-class urban experiences,” says Brinsden. “To do this, we are re-stitching the urban grid – connecting main thoroughfares like Gregg, Bayou and Bringhurst. Hirsch Street follows the eastern border of the project, with Jensen Drive on the west. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobruss Posted August 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2019 In many ways Midway is similar to Hanover in that they do their due diligence and move to action. This will not come to fruition over night but will grow organically over several years. I am so pleased to know that they will be working with Buffalo Bayou Partnership to insure a healthy and viable greenbelt along the Bayou which will continue the growth of one of Houston's most visible and undeniably best assets. I look forward with anticipation to seeing this stretch of the bayou becoming an even more valuable asset to the community and give the east side of town the impetus to become the next great hotbed of community activity, and dynamic and thoughtful growth. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 PLAYING ZERO GAMES! 😀 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, bobruss said: In many ways Midway is similar to Hanover in that they do their due diligence and move to action. This will not come to fruition over night but will grow organically over several years. I am so pleased to know that they will be working with Buffalo Bayou Partnership to insure a healthy and viable greenbelt along the Bayou which will continue the growth of one of Houston's most visible and undeniably best assets. I look forward with anticipation to seeing this stretch of the bayou becoming an even more valuable asset to the community and give the east side of town the impetus to become the next great hotbed of community activity, and dynamic and thoughtful growth. Working with? A better description would be that they knew about the Partnership's plans for the bayou before they were even released to the public over 5 years ago. To most this would be more akin to insider trading lol. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, iah77 said: Working with? A better description would be that they knew about the Partnership's plans for the bayou before they were even released to the public over 5 years ago. To most this would be more akin to insider trading lol. Sure they knew about it but they are willing to design with this in mind. Believe me there are many a developer in this city that still don't pay attention to their surroundings or even care about what effects their project will have on the environment or public realm unfortunately. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, iah77 said: Working with? A better description would be that they knew about the Partnership's plans for the bayou before they were even released to the public over 5 years ago. To most this would be more akin to insider trading lol. No it isn't. This is clearly a collaboration. Insider Trading would be if multiple entities were planning on building on this KBR site (if it were split up into multiple parts and Midway only had one part), and Midway locked up an exclusive deal that would lock up the waterfront preventing others from doing so. This is not what is going on here. Midway is highly attuned to their surroundings with this project or they wouldn't have reached out to other entities and not just the Buffalo Bayou Partnership. You are literally trying to make up a conspiracy in your own mind. 9 minutes ago, bobruss said: Sure they knew about it but they are willing to design with this in mind. Believe me there are many a developer in this city that still don't pay attention to their surroundings or even care about what effects their project will have on the environment or public realm unfortunately. I agree with this 100%. Synergies is a bit cliche and has turned into a marketing buzzword at this point, but thats partly because its a truism. These big developments do work with and against one another, but the better synergies between them means a win-win for all parties involved. They would be idiots to not explore opportunities by touching base with these various entities. Its just smart business. Aside from it being a smart business tactic if we can get a better bayou environment and public realm then thats just the cherry on top. Edited August 30, 2019 by Luminare 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMIKA! Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 11 hours ago, Luminare said: No it isn't. This is clearly a collaboration. Insider Trading would be if multiple entities were planning on building on this KBR site (if it were split up into multiple parts and Midway only had one part), and Midway locked up an exclusive deal that would lock up the waterfront preventing others from doing so. This is not what is going on here. Midway is highly attuned to their surroundings with this project or they wouldn't have reached out to other entities and not just the Buffalo Bayou Partnership. You are literally trying to make up a conspiracy in your own mind. I agree with this 100%. Synergies is a bit cliche and has turned into a marketing buzzword at this point, but thats partly because its a truism. These big developments do work with and against one another, but the better synergies between them means a win-win for all parties involved. They would be idiots to not explore opportunities by touching base with these various entities. Its just smart business. Aside from it being a smart business tactic if we can get a better bayou environment and public realm then thats just the cherry on top. Well, except for the fact that Midway’s CEO was chair of real estate at Buffalo Bayou Partnership until about 2 years ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Buffalo Bayou Partnership wasn't the seller of this property. It's merely a steward for Buffalo Bayou. Midway was smart enough to see the potential and willing to cooperate with B. B. P., knowing the importance saving this strategic piece of property would be. Thank goodness Midway's CEO had the interest in helping B. B. P. for years, being involved in whatever capacity he was. The fact is he understood the importance of this property for the city, the public, and the B. B. P. for access, recreational use and natural beauty. This was an opportunity to save and develop at the same time. And it will be a very successful development for Midway, as it should. I believe it was KBR who sold the property too Midway. I 'm pretty sure the bidding for this tract was open to the public and several different groups were speculated as winners during the process. It came down to Midway, and I'm glad it did, because their CEO through his time spent with the B.B.P. is going to insure that Midway helps the B.B.P. create the most beautiful scenic waterway for everyone with more access for all to interact with and enjoy. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 hours ago, bobruss said: Buffalo Bayou Partnership wasn't the seller of this property. It's merely a steward for Buffalo Bayou. Midway was smart enough to see the potential and willing to cooperate with B. B. P., knowing the importance saving this strategic piece of property would be. Thank goodness Midway's CEO had the interest in helping B. B. P. for years, being involved in whatever capacity he was. The fact is he understood the importance of this property for the city, the public, and the B. B. P. for access, recreational use and natural beauty. This was an opportunity to save and develop at the same time. And it will be a very successful development for Midway, as it should. I believe it was KBR who sold the property too Midway. I 'm pretty sure the bidding for this tract was open to the public and several different groups were speculated as winners during the process. It came down to Midway, and I'm glad it did, because their CEO through his time spent with the B.B.P. is going to insure that Midway helps the B.B.P. create the most beautiful scenic waterway for everyone with more access for all to interact with and enjoy. Anyone with a brain can understand the "importance" of building next to someone else's billion dollar tax funded beautification project having retrieved information to buy land below what it's market value would be had the public known lol. It's cool to like what they are doing but don't say that it was a totally transparent deal, they had access to not yet public information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobruss Posted August 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, iah77 said: Anyone with a brain can understand the "importance" of building next to someone else's billion dollar tax funded beautification project having retrieved information to buy land below what it's market value would be had the public known lol. It's cool to like what they are doing but don't say that it was a totally transparent deal, they had access to not yet public information. Anyone with a brain that uses it for more than anger can dig a little and find that the report that I posted from the Buffalo Bayou Partnership that laid out their future plans was printed and offered to the public in 2002. So if anyone who was really interested in knowing what BBP planned could have done just as I did, years ago when I downloaded this document. As for Midways CEO being a part of a civic minded non profit to help improve Houston and the public realm more power to him and I thank him for his time and efforts in helping BBP bring all of the wonderful projects that have been accomplished on the west side of downtown to fruition. Edited September 1, 2019 by bobruss 6 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Heres a link to the report I posted earlier. http://jordanrivercommission.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BBB_Summary.pdf 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, bobruss said: Heres a link to the report I posted earlier. http://jordanrivercommission.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BBB_Summary.pdf BBP's finalized plan for the East Sector is set to release in the next couple of months and took East River into major consideration as far as I have heard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 BBP is looking for as many opportunities to work with landowners of industrial sites and old city of Houston sites to continue progress on it's eastern sections. On this present document the East River is defined as a development called Richardson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iah77 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just now, bobruss said: BBP is looking for as many opportunities to work with landowners of industrial sites and old city of Houston sites to continue progress on it's eastern sections. On this present document the East River is defined as a development called Richardson. That's absolutely not true because they don't seem to care about the thousands of low income families around the site who are going to be displaced by the incoming wave of gentrification. Do you really think people who live in the area now are going to go to the fancy cafes in the render or use "boat landings" lol? How about they figure out a a way to lock down property taxes to not displace families and industries already there? HR&A out of NYC btw was working on these plans way before 2002 when they were released to the public. A lot of large plots magically traded hands around then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric.kelly Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Displaced families? It’s not like someone is just taking people homes with no compensation. In this area a lot of homes are being lost due to non payment of taxes. At the current tax rates. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naviguessor Posted September 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2019 Iah77 - You have a general beef Something, that’s apparent. But your anger and frustration with BBP is way misplaced, buddy. You are tying BBP and development/ redevelopment of the bayou into parkland and public spaces in with things it has absolutely nothing to do with (taxes, housing...). Actually, had you attended many any of the multiple meeting which BBP has hosted in these poor area in the east end (2 ward, 5 ward...) you would actually learn that they are very concerned about the impact on the surrounding neighborhoods, and are incorporating plans based greatly on input for these communities. What’s with these conspiracies? 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) On 9/1/2019 at 1:36 PM, iah77 said: That's absolutely not true because they don't seem to care about the thousands of low income families around the site who are going to be displaced by the incoming wave of gentrification. Do you really think people who live in the area now are going to go to the fancy cafes in the render or use "boat landings" lol? How about they figure out a a way to lock down property taxes to not displace families and industries already there? HR&A out of NYC btw was working on these plans way before 2002 when they were released to the public. A lot of large plots magically traded hands around then. that land was going to be redeveloped irregardless of who bought it. the bayou is going to be made into a park irregardless of who bought it. these things would have happened on their own, without midway being involved. You give Midway, and this development way too much credit, take a look around gentrification is happening, and has been happening for a while. Edited September 3, 2019 by samagon 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The perhaps apocryphal story in my family was that a cousin a few generations back had a choice as to where to build his home once he had some means and had considered what is now Southampton and River Oaks, but ultimately concluded that he would prefer living off Wayside. Sometimes you get priced out of your lovely neighborhood, sometimes other people get priced in. You never know how that market is going to bounce. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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