Jump to content

Recommended Posts

55 minutes ago, Mr.Clean19 said:

Its not a matter of common sense... Its a matter of political environment. This is a multi-billion dollar development in 5th Ward... That is going to require some amount of political capital to pull off and the only way you will do that is with some % of work force housing. 

Yes, as this location is considered an opportunity zone by the govt.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I really think they need to make Hirsch/Waco an underpass at the railroad. I know Gregg & Jensen are a work around. The trains have to slow down significantly for that right turn when the tracks turn North. Unless the city redoes Jensen and Gregg, Waco is the only road leading to this from I-10 & the east end that’s not suspension damaging. 

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
1 hour ago, bobruss said:

In many ways Midway is similar to Hanover in that they do their due diligence and move to action. This will not come to fruition over night but will grow organically over several years.

I am so pleased to know that they will be working with Buffalo Bayou Partnership to insure a healthy and viable greenbelt along the Bayou which will continue the growth of one of Houston's most visible and undeniably best assets. I look forward with anticipation to seeing this stretch of the bayou becoming an even more valuable asset to the community and give the east side of town  the impetus to become the next great hotbed of community activity, and dynamic and thoughtful growth.

 

Working with? A better description would be that they knew about the Partnership's plans for the bayou before they were even released to the public over 5 years ago. To most this would be more akin to insider trading lol.  

  • Confused 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, iah77 said:

 

Working with? A better description would be that they knew about the Partnership's plans for the bayou before they were even released to the public over 5 years ago. To most this would be more akin to insider trading lol.  

Sure they knew about it but they are willing to design with this in mind. Believe me there are many a developer in this city that still don't pay attention to their surroundings or even care about 

what effects their project will have on the environment or public realm unfortunately.

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, iah77 said:

 

Working with? A better description would be that they knew about the Partnership's plans for the bayou before they were even released to the public over 5 years ago. To most this would be more akin to insider trading lol.  

 

No it isn't. This is clearly a collaboration. Insider Trading would be if multiple entities were planning on building on this KBR site (if it were split up into multiple parts and Midway only had one part), and Midway locked up an exclusive deal that would lock up the waterfront preventing others from doing so. This is not what is going on here. Midway is highly attuned to their surroundings with this project or they wouldn't have reached out to other entities and not just the Buffalo Bayou Partnership. You are literally trying to make up a conspiracy in your own mind.

 

9 minutes ago, bobruss said:

Sure they knew about it but they are willing to design with this in mind. Believe me there are many a developer in this city that still don't pay attention to their surroundings or even care about 

what effects their project will have on the environment or public realm unfortunately.

 

I agree with this 100%. Synergies is a bit cliche and has turned into a marketing buzzword at this point, but thats partly because its a truism. These big developments do work with and against one another, but the better synergies between them means a win-win for all parties involved. They would be idiots to not explore opportunities by touching base with these various entities. Its just smart business. Aside from it being a smart business tactic if we can get a better bayou environment and public realm then thats just the cherry on top.

Edited by Luminare
  • Like 5
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, Luminare said:

 

No it isn't. This is clearly a collaboration. Insider Trading would be if multiple entities were planning on building on this KBR site (if it were split up into multiple parts and Midway only had one part), and Midway locked up an exclusive deal that would lock up the waterfront preventing others from doing so. This is not what is going on here. Midway is highly attuned to their surroundings with this project or they wouldn't have reached out to other entities and not just the Buffalo Bayou Partnership. You are literally trying to make up a conspiracy in your own mind.

 

 

I agree with this 100%. Synergies is a bit cliche and has turned into a marketing buzzword at this point, but thats partly because its a truism. These big developments do work with and against one another, but the better synergies between them means a win-win for all parties involved. They would be idiots to not explore opportunities by touching base with these various entities. Its just smart business. Aside from it being a smart business tactic if we can get a better bayou environment and public realm then thats just the cherry on top.

Well, except for the fact that Midway’s CEO was chair of real estate at Buffalo Bayou Partnership until about 2 years ago...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Buffalo Bayou Partnership wasn't the seller of this property. It's merely a steward for Buffalo Bayou.

Midway was smart enough to see the potential and willing to cooperate with B. B. P.,  knowing the importance  saving this strategic piece of property would be.  Thank goodness Midway's CEO had the interest in helping B. B. P. for years, being involved in whatever capacity he was. The fact is he understood the importance of this property for the city, the public, and the B. B. P. for access,  recreational use and natural beauty.  This was an opportunity to save and develop at the same time. And it will be a very successful development for Midway, as it should. I believe it was KBR who sold the property too Midway. I 'm pretty sure the bidding for this tract was open to the public and several different groups were speculated as winners during the process.

It  came down to Midway, and I'm glad it did, because their CEO through his time spent with the B.B.P. is going to insure that Midway helps the B.B.P. create the most beautiful scenic waterway for everyone with  more access for all to interact with and enjoy.

  • Like 5
  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, bobruss said:

Buffalo Bayou Partnership wasn't the seller of this property. It's merely a steward for Buffalo Bayou.

Midway was smart enough to see the potential and willing to cooperate with B. B. P.,  knowing the importance  saving this strategic piece of property would be.  Thank goodness Midway's CEO had the interest in helping B. B. P. for years, being involved in whatever capacity he was. The fact is he understood the importance of this property for the city, the public, and the B. B. P. for access,  recreational use and natural beauty.  This was an opportunity to save and develop at the same time. And it will be a very successful development for Midway, as it should. I believe it was KBR who sold the property too Midway. I 'm pretty sure the bidding for this tract was open to the public and several different groups were speculated as winners during the process.

It  came down to Midway, and I'm glad it did, because their CEO through his time spent with the B.B.P. is going to insure that Midway helps the B.B.P. create the most beautiful scenic waterway for everyone with  more access for all to interact with and enjoy.

Anyone with a brain can understand the "importance" of building next to someone else's billion dollar tax funded beautification project having retrieved information to buy land below what it's market value would be had the public known lol. It's cool to like what they are doing but don't say that it was a totally transparent deal, they had access to not yet public information. 

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

BBP is looking for as many opportunities to work with landowners  of industrial sites and old city of Houston sites to continue progress on it's eastern sections.

On this present document the East River is defined as a development called Richardson.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, bobruss said:

BBP is looking for as many opportunities to work with landowners  of industrial sites and old city of Houston sites to continue progress on it's eastern sections.

On this present document the East River is defined as a development called Richardson.

That's absolutely not true because they don't seem to care about the thousands of low income families around the site who are going to be displaced by the incoming wave of gentrification. Do you really think people who live in the area now are going to go to the fancy cafes in the render or use "boat landings" lol? How about they figure out a a way to lock down property taxes to not displace families and industries already there?

 

HR&A out of NYC btw was working on these plans way before 2002 when they were released to the public. A lot of large plots magically traded hands around then. 

 

  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 9/1/2019 at 1:36 PM, iah77 said:

That's absolutely not true because they don't seem to care about the thousands of low income families around the site who are going to be displaced by the incoming wave of gentrification. Do you really think people who live in the area now are going to go to the fancy cafes in the render or use "boat landings" lol? How about they figure out a a way to lock down property taxes to not displace families and industries already there?

 

HR&A out of NYC btw was working on these plans way before 2002 when they were released to the public. A lot of large plots magically traded hands around then. 

 

 

that land was going to be redeveloped irregardless of who bought it.

 

the bayou is going to be made into a park irregardless of who bought it.

 

these things would have happened on their own, without midway being involved.

 

You give Midway, and this development way too much credit, take a look around gentrification is happening, and has been happening for a while. 

Edited by samagon
  • Like 9
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The perhaps apocryphal story in my family was that a cousin a few generations back had a choice as to where to build his home once he had some means and had considered what is now Southampton and River Oaks, but ultimately concluded that he would prefer living off Wayside.  Sometimes you get priced out of your lovely neighborhood, sometimes other people get priced in. You never know how that market is going to bounce. 

 

 

  • Like 5
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...